The Fathers Love Letter

[UTVols345]

Hi everybody!

My question today is about the Fathers Love Letter, most commonly found on YouTube. I do not have enough posts to put in links. If you could, please go to YouTube and type in Gods Love Letter in the search box.

Now if you've watched that before, or you just watched it now..please take the time to google "Fathers Love Letter Is Demonic". (I'm sorry I'm making you work for it! lol I tried to put in links.)


I'm really confused. When I first heard the letter video, I was completely moved. I loved it! Then I saw that webpage. Am I wrong to enjoy listening to the letter? Or is A True Church misinterpreting?

 

[Patroklos]

I'll Google that in a minute.

You mean to tell me, there are Christians out there that actually think "The Father's Love Letter" is demonic?? Seriously? Oh my goodness.

Just when I thought I couldn't disagree more with religion, it 1-up's me yet again!

I am assuming you mean this page:

http://www.atruechurch.info/fathersloveletter.html

At first I thought it was Westboro's, but no. I found it quite revolting, but I wouldn't be surprised if many of the christians here actually agreed with it!

 

[ChrisHolland619]

If God wanted those verses arranged in that order, He would have made it so.

I do not agree that this "love letter" is "demonic", but it most certainly is not of God.

 

[Patroklos]

If God wanted those verses arranged in that order, He would have made it so.

I do not agree that this "love letter" is "demonic", but it most certainly is not of God.

Why. Am. I. Not. Surprised.

 

[ChrisHolland619]

Why. Am. I. Not. Surprised.

Explain to me, with scriptural reference, what is Biblical about a man re-arranging the words of Scripture.

 

[Pal Handy]

God is love so if His love letter to you expressed His love
then love is a good thing so don't let someone who wants to
pick at the love letter and call it demonic, disturb the love
of God expressed to you in Christ.

There is an opposite opinion to all truth but Christ said that
when you hear His voice you will know it and receive it.

We must discern with God's help between truth and falsehood.
Read the gospel of John and 1,2 John.

When you heard the love letter it made you glad and brought
faith into your heart concerning the intentions of God the Father
toward you as His beloved daughter in Christ and you had peace.

After you read the rebuttal you were filled with dread and fear as
if God is really angry with you and is rejecting you and all
your peace departed and you are left in confusion.

Which of the two reactions come from God?

Peace and love is of God and confusion, condemnation
and rejection are not from God.

The peace of God is a good guide because it comes from the
Holy Spirit who guides us in the truth of God in Christ.

Let the peace of God guide you in love because this peace
and assurance cannot be counterfitted and is God's
gentle and guiding hand of love on your life.

John 14:27
Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you;
not as the world gives do I give to you.
Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

I want you to memorze this verse...
You have to put God's word in your heart to combat the lies of the devil.

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,
who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

You walk according to the Spirit as you allow Him to guide you in truth
because you belong to God through Jesus Christ who paid your debt
and set you free to enjoy the Love of God in an intimate relationship of love.

 

[Patroklos]

Explain to me, with scriptural reference, what is Biblical about a man re-arranging the words of Scripture.

So we're not allowed to paraphrase anything from the Bible?

You really are quite the Pharisee, you know that?

BTW, stop worshipping the bible. That is idolatry of the most high regard.

 

[Pal Handy]

Don't make me come back there.
Wait till your father gets home....

 

[Patroklos]

Here's another webpage by a nutbar who thinks the Father's Love Letter is Satanic, for you Scribes and Pharisees:

The Problem with “A Father's Love Letter”

You know what...? If people like the guy who wrote the Father's Love Letter are called "Wolves" I'd GLADLY be counted amongst the wolves than being a self-righteous, arrogant sheep.

 

[ChrisHolland619]

Your words make no sense.

I'm a pharisee, huh? A pharisee is someone who speaks biblical truths and does it all for show but doesn't follow Christ. I think you need a lesson in the New Testament.

And I'm a Pharisee by saying you shouldn't re-arrange the words of God and that it's divinely inspired lol? Berry took all of those scriptures completely out of context and made it into something that it was not.

 

[Patroklos]

Your words make no sense.

I'm a pharisee, huh? A pharisee is someone who speaks biblical truths and does it all for show but doesn't follow Christ. I think you need a lesson in the New Testament.

And I'm a Pharisee by saying you shouldn't re-arrange the words of God and that it's divinely inspired lol? Berry took all of those scriptures completely out of context and made it into something that it was not.

You are quite the scholar. As Job said, "Wisdom will die with you!"

Unfortunately, a Pharisee is someone who follows the letter of the law and not the spirit which gave it.

 

[ChrisHolland619]

You are quite the scholar. As Job said, "Wisdom will die with you!"

Unfortunately, a Pharisee is someone who follows the letter of the law and not the spirit which gave it.

..except that I do not follow the letter of the law, at all. I'm a sinner. If I was a pharisee, I would think that I ma saved by birthright and being "good". I would think that my actions save me.

By that definition..you are the pharisee, as you think your good deeds save you. I'm saved by the blood of Jesus Christ.

The Pharisees did not believe Jesus Christ was the Messiah.

Your claim that I am a pharisee is not making much sense at this point, as none of the attributes associated with a pharisee are present in me.

 

[Pal Handy]

1 John 4
7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and
everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us,
that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world,
that we might live through Him.
10 In this is love, not that we loved God,
but that He loved us and
sent His Son to be the propitiation (payment) for our sins.
11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.

 

[UTVols345]

HEEEEEY.

I love you guys...but take it somewhere else. Ya'll are getting completely off topic.

This issue is something that weighs on my heart, and all I wanted was some friendly opinion. Not two people arguing over freakin Pharisees.

If you must argue, please email each other or go back to the 'Does God Speak To People' thread, where your original hatred seemed to have started.

Thanks.

 

[Isatis]

I'm really confused. When I first heard the letter video, I was completely moved. I loved it! Then I saw that webpage. Am I wrong to enjoy listening to the letter? Or is A True Church misinterpreting?

This site is much better than youtube Father's Love Letter Main Page
You can read, watch or listen.

"Love" is the theme that runs through that letter and there is nothing "demonic" about telling people that God loves them. If you want to share scripture that is going to lift me up, will you quote scriptures that deal with the ten plagues? It just made sense that scripture quoted in that letter is primarily about love and that letter is for believers, it says "my child". This is not evangelism but fellowship, he is saying that God is on Your side and He loves you.
It is best to read the story behind father's love letter The Story Behind Father's Love Letter

Hey, don't believe anything you see on the Net, your Bible should be your guide. God does love you (John 3:16)

 

[UTVols345]

Thank you, Isatis!
I'm starting to learn that the only place I need to go to for answers is the Bible. It just scared me when I first saw that site, because I don't want to listen to anything that is claiming it is from God, when it isn't, ya know?

 

[Isatis]

Thank you, Isatis!
I'm starting to learn that the only place I need to go to for answers is the Bible.

Crave the pure milk of the Word (1 Peter 2:2)

 

[Patroklos]

If God is not love, then I don't think this religion is right for me. I'm not a hater. I'm a Lover.

 

[ChrisHolland619]

If I, myself, just randomly come on here and say "Hey guys, God gave me this vision and these verses and these verses when combined with the pathogorian theorem combined with taking the first letter of each book of blah blah and then bam you got Gods love letter!" do you think that is from God?

I mean, really? Because that is exactly what this guy did. It is not divinely inspired at all. It is mans creation and doing.

 

[UTVols345]

If I, myself, just randomly come on here and say "Hey guys, God gave me this vision and these verses and these verses when combined with the pathogorian theorem combined with taking the first letter of each book of blah blah and then bam you got Gods love letter!" do you think that is from God?

I mean, really? Because that is exactly what this guy did. It is not divinely inspired at all. It is mans creation and doing.

So do you think God feels the way the video depicts about His children? Or do you think He feels differently?