Thank you Barack Hussein Obama for making DOGE a reality

[Always in His Presence]

DOGE - A Lawyer's Perspective

A lot is being said about DOGE and whenever I see the mainstream organizing around a narrative I get suspicious.

tomrenz.substack.com

From Tom Renz, who actually read Trump's DOGE Executive Order and, expecting some illegal power grab, found it to be airtight. Turns out Trump and Musk didn't create anything. Obama did.

Obama created United States Digital Service (USDS) in 2014. It was meant as a bureaucratic patch job to fix the Obamacare website meltdown.

Fast forward to 2025. Trump rebrands it DOGE (United States DOGE Service). Keeps the acronym, keeps the funding, but gives it a whole new mission: Find the Receipts

Legally untouchable because it was already fully funded and operational. Trump invokes 5 USC 3161, which allows him to create temporary hiring authorities. DOGE teams get embedded inside every single federal agency.

Each team consists of a lawyer, HR rep, a zoomer nerd, and an investigator. They report to DOGE, not the agency they're embedded in.

But wait, there's more! Trump invokes 44 USC Chapter 35, which governs federal IT and cybersecurity oversight. Since USDS was originally an IT oversight body, DOGE now has full access to all federal data systems. Yes, that’s right. All of them.

His executive order is written to block legal challenges. Includes language that overrides conflicting executive orders. Orders every agency to comply. Refusal means they violate presidential authority.

Congress can't defund it because it's not a new program, just a repurposed one. DOJ can't sue for overreach because Trump used existing laws exactly as written. Democrats trying to file legal challenges run into standing issues because DOGE operates within existing frameworks.

Obama literally built the perfect Administrative (read: Deep) State IT backdoor. Trump and Musk just hacked the system and took the admin controls. Musk now has legal oversight of every major agency's internal systems. The Administrative State can't stop it without rewriting multiple federal laws.

They legally outplayed the system and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
Obama created DOGE.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Obama created DOGE.

Well I was hoping the new administration of President Trump would come up with some new ideas and policies. I guess I was wrong.

 

[Fantine]

I can't believe it. Trump is trying to dodge responsibility again.

It's not my fault you're A) laid off B) uninsured C) homeless due to natural disasters FEMA won't help with D) add your own atrocity at the hands of Trump.

One degree of separation (Musk) isn't enough. No. He pretends it's some Obama software gone haywire.

For shame.

 

[Always in His Presence]

I can't believe it. Trump is trying to dodge responsibility again.

It's not my fault you're A) laid off B) uninsured C) homeless due to natural disasters FEMA won't help with D) add your own atrocity at the hands of Trump.

One degree of separation (Musk) isn't enough. No. He pretends it's some Obama software gone haywire.

For shame.

Didn't read a word of it - did ya?

 

[Fantine]

Didn't read a word of it - did ya?

It's his rationale that the illegal acts he's committing will pass judicial muster.

And of course, if they don't, he'll try to ignore them, and they won't be able to arrest him. But they can arrest all the people underneath him who enforce them. And then he'll pardon them.

For example, the Federal attorneys who refused to dismiss the case against Eric Adams because it was a ploy to force him to be a co-conspirator in Trump's deportation sweeps say that even if Trump was immune for the crime (remember, it's still a "crime" even if he is immune, and he is still committing a "crime") They can be disbarred, arrested, with ruined careers for disobeying the law.

 

[essentialsaltes]

The renaming and repurposing are well-known.

The legality of what it is and what it does remain undetermined.

 

[durangodawood]

Didn't read a word of it - did ya?

That reminds me of the last time we chatted....

 

[Always in His Presence]

It's his rationale that the illegal acts he's committing will pass judicial muster.

And of course, if they don't, he'll try to ignore them, and they won't be able to arrest him. But they can arrest all the people underneath him who enforce them. And then he'll pardon them.

For example, the Federal attorneys who refused to dismiss the case against Eric Adams because it was a ploy to force him to be a co-conspirator in Trump's deportation sweeps say that even if Trump was immune for the crime (remember, it's still a "crime" even if he is immune, and he is still committing a "crime") They can be disbarred, arrested, with ruined careers for disobeying the law.

Yup, you didn’t read a word.

 

[Always in His Presence]

That reminds me of the last time we chatted....

You just didn’t like my answer

But thanks for the callout. It failed

 

[Say it aint so]

DOGE - A Lawyer's Perspective

A lot is being said about DOGE and whenever I see the mainstream organizing around a narrative I get suspicious.

tomrenz.substack.com

From Tom Renz, who actually read Trump's DOGE Executive Order and, expecting some illegal power grab, found it to be airtight. Turns out Trump and Musk didn't create anything. Obama did.

Obama created United States Digital Service (USDS) in 2014. It was meant as a bureaucratic patch job to fix the Obamacare website meltdown.

Fast forward to 2025. Trump rebrands it DOGE (United States DOGE Service). Keeps the acronym, keeps the funding, but gives it a whole new mission: Find the Receipts

Legally untouchable because it was already fully funded and operational. Trump invokes 5 USC 3161, which allows him to create temporary hiring authorities. DOGE teams get embedded inside every single federal agency.

Each team consists of a lawyer, HR rep, a zoomer nerd, and an investigator. They report to DOGE, not the agency they're embedded in.

But wait, there's more! Trump invokes 44 USC Chapter 35, which governs federal IT and cybersecurity oversight. Since USDS was originally an IT oversight body, DOGE now has full access to all federal data systems. Yes, that’s right. All of them.

His executive order is written to block legal challenges. Includes language that overrides conflicting executive orders. Orders every agency to comply. Refusal means they violate presidential authority.

Congress can't defund it because it's not a new program, just a repurposed one. DOJ can't sue for overreach because Trump used existing laws exactly as written. Democrats trying to file legal challenges run into standing issues because DOGE operates within existing frameworks.

Obama literally built the perfect Administrative (read: Deep) State IT backdoor. Trump and Musk just hacked the system and took the admin controls. Musk now has legal oversight of every major agency's internal systems. The Administrative State can't stop it without rewriting multiple federal laws.

They legally outplayed the system and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
Obama created DOGE.

The United States Digital Service was not what DOGE is at all.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Hatred does not win elections and cannot be blessed by God.

 

[Always in His Presence]

The United States Digital Service was not what DOGE is at all.

Read the article.

 

[Say it aint so]

Read the article.

I did.

 

[adrianmonk]

USDS was intended to consolidate technology used by the federal government. This is so that the wheel does not have to be re-invented for every federal technology project. Doge decided to re-invent it for doge.gov and was found to be lacking in security.

 

[Say it aint so]

USDS was intended to consolidate technology used by the federal government. This is so that the wheel does not have to be re-invented for every federal technology project. Doge decided to re-invent it for doge.gov and was found to be lacking in security.

Yes, and it was strictly consulting. Not seizing departments, not threatening people, and not firing people. How anyone would think that was the genesis for DOGE is either woefully informed, or a conspirator grifter like the author of the article actually is.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

But wait, there's more! Trump invokes 44 USC Chapter 35, which governs federal IT and cybersecurity oversight. Since USDS was originally an IT oversight body, DOGE now has full access to all federal data systems. Yes, that’s right. All of them.

This is what happens when people start believing amateur journalists who write blogs.

The United States Digital Service (USDS) is a government digital oversight body, but it does not have access to the entire federal government's information systems. No single entity does. US federal government networks are designed to be segmented for security purposes. For instance, within the Social Security Administration or the IRS, even internal IT staff cannot access everything due to this segmentation. Most NSA and other national security systems require physical presence in the room where the servers are located to gain access. Financial data are also segmented by region and cannot be accessed unless one is in the same building where the data are stored.

This type of article can be misleading. I recommend readers to find reputable sources rather than relying on an online blogger who may not have adequate knowledge about the subject.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Didn't read a word of it - did ya?

I have reviewed the article. While DOGE and USDS may legally be allowed to access federal data, from an information technology standpoint, it will take at least 2-3 years to access all the data fully ( some expert may say that is not even possible). The author appears to lack an understanding of how information technology functions or how the U.S. government secures its data.

 

[Always in His Presence]

This is what happens when people start believing amateur journalists who write blogs.

As opposed to believing an anonymous poster on a forum, who provides no links or proof to support their statement?

 

[Always in His Presence]

I have reviewed the article. While DOGE and USDS may legally be allowed to access federal data, from an information technology standpoint, it will take at least 2-3 years to access all the data fully ( some expert may say that is not even possible). The author appears to lack an understanding of how information technology functions or how the U.S. government secures its data.

yes, they can legally have access - and what would take the government years to do, might just be able to be done in less time by highly intelligent persons not part of the swamp.

 

[Pommer]

yes, they can legally have access - and what would take the government years to do, might just be able to be done in less time by highly intelligent persons not part of the swamp.

I heard an Aaron Parnas report over to the TikTok machine, that a couple of DOGErs flew out to California to get Californian officials to “turn the water on”…with the one DOGE-wunderkind not even being an employee of the Federal Government (yet).

It’s going to be so great when they’re able to find the two-trillion $ in Waste Fraud and Abuse.