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Sweden may have the answer to America’s gun problem

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Sweden may have the answer to America’s gun problem


That is the trick there...they think of guns as a responsibility not a right,.
 

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Those of us in Europe have always wondered why as the amendment to the constitutions says, that a militia is vital for the freedom of the people, they may bare arms.
Sorry if miss quoted, but to me if one wants to own a rifle, one should belong to a disciplined military unit that trains and enforces discipline on its members.
 
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Criminals in our country tend to get their guns by way of theft. I'm not sure how the registration of guns and gun owners would help that. My coworker lost a few to a burglary, despite having them in a high-end gun safe. The gun registration only helped in the recovery of one gun, when the kid was caught shooting the gun into the air while walking down the street. It didn't do anything to prevent a crime.
 
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Our militia would be an adjunct force if the nation, or a state, was under threat. For example, if the rioters couldn't be controlled by the police or national guard, and the stability of the state was in jeopardy the civilian militia might be called up.
 
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The only gun problem that I'm aware of in America is that guns are in short supply right now. It's difficult to find guns and ammo because so many people are buying them. How can we ramp up production?
 
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The only gun problem that I'm aware of in America is that guns are in short supply right now. It's difficult to find guns and ammo because so many people are buying them. How can we ramp up production?

Are you trying to be provocative or cute? Either way, it's not funny. We have a severe gun problem in the US! There are too many people who use guns inappropriately, bringing danger to themselves and others. It's like giving 9-year-olds the keys to the family car; it's a guarantee that somebody will be hurt or killed.

The Second Amendment is about "a well-regulated militia", not a bunch of untrained, irresponsible people who want to take the law into their own hands (literally).

BTW, I am a lifelong shooter and hunter.
 
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I'm not a hunter but I am a shooter, CCW holder, and I carry every day. If we have a gun problem, it's a lack of education. More people should be trained and educated to carry and use guns responsibly.
 
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The only gun problem that I'm aware of in America is that guns are in short supply right now. It's difficult to find guns and ammo because so many people are buying them. How can we ramp up production?

I've had ammo on order for months. The gun shop I buy from has nearly empty handgun displays. When will the Left learn that when they threaten our guns we just obtain more. The biggest buyer of ammo is the government, thus the shortages.
 
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I'm not a hunter but I am a shooter, CCW holder, and I carry every day. If we have a gun problem, it's a lack of education. More people should be trained and educated to carry and use guns responsibly.

That is one problem, but not the main one. The problem is that virtually anyone can buy a gun from a store, a gun show, or another person, get ahold of some ammo, and use it in any way they want. That is a recipe for violence and loss of life.

Again, the 2nd Amendment is about "a well-trained militia, being necessary to the security of a free state". It's not about an untrained mob taking the law into their own hands.
 
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I've had ammo on order for months. The gun shop I buy from has nearly empty handgun displays. When will the Left learn that when they threaten our guns we just obtain more. The biggest buyer of ammo is the government, thus the shortages.

Biden has some nasty plans for ARs. I don't own an AR but I wish I did. Anyone who wants one should buy one before the inauguration.
 
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I'm not a hunter but I am a shooter, CCW holder, and I carry every day. If we have a gun problem, it's a lack of education. More people should be trained and educated to carry and use guns responsibly.

I recently got my CC license but cannot find the 'pocket gun' I want.
 
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That's not really true. Private sales and gun shows are a little different, but in order to buy from a store you have to be 21 (for a handgun) and pass a background check.

Virtually anyone can illegally buy a firearm off of the streets and use it however they want. There are no amount of laws that are going to be able to stop that. Gun laws only prevent good guys from getting guns because only good guys care about owning guns lawfully.
 
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Well regulated, not 'well trained'. I was in the Army and believe me we were not "well trained".
 
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I like it! Thanks. I was thinking more of a .22 mag., but even that ammo is scarce.

I haven't bought ammo in a while because I stocked up earlier this year. But I'm surprised to hear that .22 is hard to find. That's usually well stocked even in an ammo shortage.

I would not recommend .22 for a defensive carry. .380 or 9mm is the way to go, in my opinion. But the smaller .380 guns are more difficult to shoot than a slightly larger 9mm simply because they have so much kick. My wife carries a Ruger LCP2 (.380 auto). It's easier to shoot my 9mm than that one.

The problem with owning a .22 is that if you own one you might load it. And if you load it, you might carry it around. And if you carry it around, you might shoot someone with it. And if you shoot someone with it, and they find out about it, then you might be in for some nasty litigation.
 
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I'm not a hunter but I am a shooter, CCW holder, and I carry every day. If we have a gun problem, it's a lack of education. More people should be trained and educated to carry and use guns responsibly.
That's what most of us are talking about education training and being held accountable if your little brat gets their hands on a gun and shoots up the elementary school you go to prison. Because a parent should be aware of their child is having mental problems. My parents easily worked 100 hours a week when I was a child and yet somehow they were able to know what was going on in all of our lives they know who was bullying us they knew which teachers were having problems with us. My youngest brother was trying to get himself a gun when he was little. My dad caught on to that one. He found out that there were several boys at school who are beating him up regularly he knew my brother was being bullied but he didn't realize he was being beaten up. He got those boys and their parents in a meeting and explained what was going on all of the parents went off on their brats.he removed my younger brother from that school for the rest of the year and saw that he was homeschooled he hired a tutor and he got my brother's counseling. He also got my brother self-defense classes. my mom knew what I lost my virginity and I still have no idea how she figured that one out cuz I guarantee you the girl I was with sure is heck did not tell her. A good parent knows everything their child is doing I don't care how much they work. Used the same settings we have for getting a driver's license. You take classes to learn how to use guns properly and responsibly. You take a test and if you pass the test you get your gun license. You get it renewed every four to five years. If you have a violent criminal record you don't get your gun license much like if you drink a lot or have a lot of tickets on your driving record you can't drive a car legally. and this is the thing other countries do it and they're able to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. And honestly a criminal will not shoot up a school a mentally unstable person will shoot up a school or a theater or a mall. A criminal is out to make money it is a business and I'm not talking about rapist and psychopaths.
 
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A few things:

1. I don't have brats, I have children. Four of them. They are educated about the seriousness of fire arms. If my guns are not on my person, they are in a safe or a lock box.

2. Parents are held criminally responsible if their child gets ahold of a gun and shoots it.

3. Adult citizens don't need a license to own a gun because the Constitution of the United States of America recognizes their right to own a gun. Neither do we need a license to exercise free-speech.

4. A license is required to conceal-carry a fire arm. For this license you have to go through 8 hours of training and pass a shooting test and apply at your local sheriff's office. It must be renewed every 5 years.
 
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The gun shop folks tell me that .22 ammo is the last thing the ammo makers produce, after they have filled the more profitable orders. One of the guys there goes out west to shoot prairie dogs each year. He says he and his buddies shoot tens of thousands of rounds at the critters.

I think you are underestimating the effectiveness of the .22 Mag.
 
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The only gun problem that I'm aware of in America is that guns are in short supply right now. It's difficult to find guns and ammo because so many people are buying them. How can we ramp up production?

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The little 2 shot ones hide pretty well in the glove box. Just enough to give you time to get out of the situation.
 
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