So far, at least nine judges, including one Trump appointee, have called a halt to Trump executive actions

[Fantine]

Pretty amazing after all the sky is falling negative news cycle. Looks like Americans are still on board. Well, Americans that aren't democrats and leftists that is.

It's a lot easier to prevent a free fall before it begins. It's not called "leftist." More like prudent and prophetic.

 

[wing2000]

Pretty amazing after all the sky is falling negative news cycle. Looks like Americans are still on board. Well, Americans that aren't democrats and leftists that is.

Do you disagree with th judge's statement? If so, why?

A quote from McConnell:

“It is in our view extremely difficult to formulate a constitutional theory to justify a refusal by the President to comply with a congressional directive to spend. Even the President does not have unilateral authority to refuse to spend” funds appropriated by Congress.'

That's plain enough. Do you think that shows bias? I'd say it shows a adherence to the constitution rather than a personal bias against Trump.

 

[rjs330]

Do you disagree with th judge's statement? If so, why?

Ive already explained this. I don't disagree due to the impoundment act. However Trump isn't refusing to spend. He has only put a pause on it. Congress did not put a deadline on the spending. They also did not give specifics on how, when and where money was to be spent.

The executive will have to spend, but nothing that says it has to be spent right now.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Appeals court rules against lifting the block of Trump's birthright citizenship order​

Judge Danielle Jo Forrest -- who Trump nominated to the Ninth Circuit in 2019 -- defended the court's decision ... arguing that rushing the decision ... risks "eroding public confidence" at a critical moment in the country's history.

Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship was blocked by four separate federal judges across the country, each of whom determined that the policy directly violated the Constitution.

 

[Pommer]

Appeals court rules against lifting the block of Trump's birthright citizenship order​

Judge Danielle Jo Forrest -- who Trump nominated to the Ninth Circuit in 2019 -- defended the court's decision ... arguing that rushing the decision ... risks "eroding public confidence" at a critical moment in the country's history.

Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship was blocked by four separate federal judges across the country, each of whom determined that the policy directly violated the Constitution.

Further on:

“When we decide issues of significant public importance and political controversy hours after we finish reading the final brief, we should not be surprised if the public questions whether we are politicians in disguise," Forrest wrote, before defending her decision to deny Trump's emergency appeal.

I dunno, sounds kinda whiny, it’s as if the President is making the courts decide if his “policy” of him running the whole shebang is kosher.

My fear* is that even if they put together a slam-dunk treatise of why this won’t fly (Constitutionally), President Trump will direct his agencies (all-of-them), as he sees fit. Whether he’ll get good compliance is another matter.


*not an actual fear

 

[QvQ]

The government has been operating without a President for the last 4 years.
If Trump cannot make changes, then the President is a mere figure head.
Congress is already irrelevent
So we are a bureaucracy run by unelected committees
And as in China, the committees will start acting as the Courts.
And the Nobles, the bureaucrats, who rule in the stead of the King will rule in Versaille on the Potamac.
And historically, the Nobles have always looted the treasury.
It is a Coup, by the unelected bureaucrats.

 

[Pommer]

The government has been operating without a President for the last 4 years.

Balderdash!

If Trump cannot make changes, then the President is a mere figure head.

Presidents make changes all of the time. There’s nothing wrong with making changes, up to (but decidedly not including) violating the Constitution by declaring himself and the Attorney General the sole arbiters of what is “legal”.

Congress is already irrelevent

The GOP led House is currently acquiescing, but Republican Representatives are taking heat at home.

So we are a bureaucracy run by unelected committees

Just like Congress wanted!

And as in China, the committees will start acting as the Courts.

Did you miss the case from SCOTUS’ last term that repudiated the so-called Chevron Doctrine?

And the Nobles, the bureaucrats, who rule in the stead of the King will rule in Versaille on the Potamac.

Pray, tell us all how good King Donald and Squire Musk are any better!

And historically, the Nobles have always looted the treasury.

The unelected bureaucrats don’t decide how much that they get paid, though.

It is a Coup, by the unelected bureaucrats.

The first half has been right for a month and two days.

 

[QvQ]

The unelected bureaucrats don’t decide how much that they get paid, though.

There is $40 Billion dollars linked to government credit cards. There are more cards issued and used than workers.
Anyone charged with misuse is not tried through civilian courts. There are bureaucratic boards that act as courts.
Sort of like the fox guarding the henhouse.

There are "boards" throughout the agencies which are the tribunals for firing or fraud. That is "commitee by and for the commisars" functioning as courts. And even civilians can be brought before the government tribunals instead of civil courts.

There isn't any oversight.
The unelected buruearcrats, $84, 000 for a conference in Las Vegas.
If the agency grants an entity $$$, then there are $$ given in "speaker fees"
An agency can award a grant to a friend or relative, and the grant is to study the sex life of leggos.
And those are just instances I have noticed and I am not even looking.

Government workers who are "working at home" who have a day job to supplement their income

 

[Bradskii]

The government has been operating without a President for the last 4 years.
If Trump cannot make changes...

He cannot if it contradicts the constitution. This is really not hard to understand.

 

[Hans Blaster]

This was a series of things that largely do not make sense

There is $40 Billion dollars linked to government credit cards.

Are these real credit cards or is this a metaphor for "deficit spending".

If real and not metaphorical $40B does sound a bit large for one year, but there is a general trend by employers to use credit cards rather than PO for retail purchases needed and more and more travel is also conducted with direct payment on employer cards rather than employee cards with reimbursements.

There are more cards issued and used than workers.

Are we still talking about credit cards? perhaps there are contractors with government cards for the same purpose, but what I know of it they would be cards issued (for the same reasons as above) to the *contractor* not the USG.

Anyone charged with misuse is not tried through civilian courts. There are bureaucratic boards that act as courts.
Sort of like the fox guarding the henhouse.

There are "boards" throughout the agencies which are the tribunals for firing or fraud. That is "commitee by and for the commisars" functioning as courts. And even civilians can be brought before the government tribunals instead of civil courts.

It sounds like a fairly standard way to deal with employee misconduct in unionized workplaces. In non-union places they would just be fired. In either case, employers try to recover the funds loss by misuse before criminal charges, though those are always an option.

There isn't any oversight.
The unelected buruearcrats, $84, 000 for a conference in Las Vegas.

Without context this is hard to assess. Are we talking about money to *host* a conference in a place that hosts lots of conferences (and $84k doesn't seem to out of line for a conference with a few hundred attendees) or to attend a conference? (and a couple dozen government employees or contractors collectively could easily cost that much to arrive from around the country to attend a conference)

If the agency grants an entity $$$, then there are $$ given in "speaker fees"

Some conferences do grant stipends to keynote or invited speakers and cover their travel costs, others don't. And these fees are

An agency can award a grant to a friend or relative, and the grant is to study the sex life of leggos.

What shall we make of this, the "sex life of leggos"? What are "leggos"? Are they

1. "LEGO" a brand of plastic interlocking blocks for children, or
2. "Eggos" a brand of frozen waffles, or
3. "L'eggs" a brand of pantyhose in egg-shaped packaging.

These are all inanimate objects that aren't even alive, let alone sexually active. (And agencies don't have relatives either)

And those are just instances I have noticed and I am not even looking.

Perhaps you should pay more attention to what you look at (or actually look) because your "tales" are not particularly coherent.

Government workers who are "working at home" who have a day job to supplement their income

Anyone working at home is expected to meet the same productivity goals as on-site workers in government and in business.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I suppose they could just go with the AOC approach...

FLASHBACK: AOC Urged Biden to ‘Ignore’ Unfavorable Court Decisions

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) argued that the Biden administration should simply ignore a judicial decision she dissented from on CNN in 2023.

www.mediaite.com

Snark aside, which districts were these challenges filed in? Were most in "friendly districts"

Because "Forum shopping" is a real thing...

I've long maintained that anyone wishing to challenge a presidential EO or any other sort of decree (that impacts the entire country), should have their challenge assigned to a random federal court based on a lottery-type random draw system.

Meaning, Republicans wishing to thwart a Democratic president's EO shouldn't be able to hand-pick a district court in the south with republican appointed judges, likewise, Democrats can't hand-pick solid blue west coast district with Democratic appointees to thwart a republican president.

 

[QvQ]

Are these real credit cards or is this a metaphor for "deficit spending".

. 12K views · 239 reactions | DOGE finds nearly $40 billion in spending linked to government-issued credit cards | The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) pledged on Tuesday to “simplify” the federal government’s credit card program after it cost taxpayers... | By New York Post | Facebook

 

[QvQ]

What shall we make of this, the "sex life of leggos"? What are "leggos"? Are they

1. "LEGO" a brand of plastic interlocking blocks for children, or
2. "Eggos" a brand of frozen waffles, or
3. "L'eggs" a brand of pantyhose in egg-shaped packaging.

All of the above
The Brits Science Museum has concluded that Lego's are heteronormative.
Surely the US can't be far behind but as LEGO's have been assigned gender, it is likely waffles next.

 

[Hans Blaster]

. 12K views · 239 reactions | DOGE finds nearly $40 billion in spending linked to government-issued credit cards | The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) pledged on Tuesday to “simplify” the federal government’s credit card program after it cost taxpayers... | By New York Post | Facebook

Facebook is not a news site, nor is it readable by non-members.

 

[JSRG]

Facebook is not a news site, nor is it readable by non-members.

I can read this this post even while not signed in to Facebook. It is true a pop-up appears asking you to sign in, but you just have to click the X to close it and you can access the post even without an account.

That said, all the Facebook post is is a video summarizing an article from the New York Post and including a link to it:

DOGE finds nearly $40 billion in spending linked to government-issued credit cards

“The US government currently has ~4.6M active credit cards/accounts, which processed ~90M unique transactions for ~$40B of spend in FY24,” read an X post from the cost-cutting initiative’s officia…

nypost.com

I am not sure why QvQ chose to link to a Facebook post linking to the article rather than linking to the article directly.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Numerous federal district judges around the country have blocked major portions of Trump’s early agenda — but Supreme Court showdowns loom.

That trend reached a crescendo Friday when U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols — a Trump appointee — blocked a plan by Trump and Elon Musk to put 2,200 USAID employees on leave, part of a rapid-fire effort to dismantle the foreign aid agency. Hours later, a federal judge in New York blocked Musk and his allies from accessing sensitive Treasury records, citing a risk of improper disclosure or hacking. The ruling by U.S. District Judge Paul Engelmayer, an Obama appointee, was the most sweeping of its kind so far.

In some cases, judges are voicing distress and even visceral fury as they stand in Trump’s way.

“It has become ever more apparent that to our president, the rule of law is but an impediment to his policy goals,” said U.S. District Judge John Coughenour, a Seattle-based appointee of Ronald Reagan, as he blocked Trump’s birthright citizenship policy. “The rule of law is, according to him, something to navigate around or simply ignore.”

[Othes:]

• blocked Trump’s effort to implement a blanket freeze on billions of dollars in federal spending.
• halted a government-wide program encouraging thousands of federal workers to resign.
• block Treasury officials from sharing details of the government’s massive payment system — accessed by allies of Musk — with anyone outside the department.
• blocked the implementation of Trump’s order to transfer transgender women inmates to men’s prisons.
• blocking Trump’s birthright citizenship order.
• barred the Trump administration from disclosing the names of FBI agents who worked on Jan. 6 cases

These things they stopped him from doing all sound reasonable. Seems like tyranny is his desired model of government.

 

[QvQ]

I am not sure why QvQ chose to link to a Facebook post linking to the article rather than linking to the article directly.

Thank @JSRG

I posted the article I found. Didn't realize it wasn't direct.
The entire article is much better.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I can read this this post even while not signed in to Facebook. It is true a pop-up appears asking you to sign in, but you just have to click the X to close it and you can access the post even without an account.

Normally those don't work. I don't even bother to click on links to zuck's coed-rating site.

That said, all the Facebook post is is a video summarizing an article from the New York Post and including a link to it:

DOGE finds nearly $40 billion in spending linked to government-issued credit cards

“The US government currently has ~4.6M active credit cards/accounts, which processed ~90M unique transactions for ~$40B of spend in FY24,” read an X post from the cost-cutting initiative’s officia…

nypost.com

Perhaps fewer cards are warrented, but from the article, a big nothingburger.

I am not sure why QvQ chose to link to a Facebook post linking to the article rather than linking to the article directly.

Facebook users, what else can we say.

 

[QvQ]

Perhaps fewer cards are warrented, but from the article, a big nothingburger.

The cards have a $1 limit on them now. Wait to see who screams

One of the Judges dismissed a suilt about funding saying that "irreperable harm" would not result from funds being cut off because the inconvenience was monetary.

 

[Hans Blaster]

The cards have a $1 limit on them now. Wait to see who screams

One of the Judges dismissed a suilt about funding saying that "irreperable harm" would not result from funds being cut off because the inconvenience was monetary.

what are you talking about now?