Schizophrenia or demonic oppression is exhausting

[Job405]

I was diagnosed with schizophrenia after two suicide attempts when I thought the Holy Spirit had left me and experienced some pretty wild hallucinations.

This schizophrenia pretends to be a demon. It first pretended to be God but once it was clear that it wasn't God it said that it's a demon.

It does the following things day in day out (I only get a break when sleeping):
- Blaspheme the Holy Spirit or Jesus, rarely the Father
- Try to get me to leave, deny or reject Christ
- Try to get me to hate God
- Try to get me to love Satan or say that he is God
- Try to get me to sin in various ways

It does this not through voices but through thoughts. It puts these thoughts into my mind and pretends to be me. It can also move my body parts if I allow it to, usually it moves my head to communicate with me.

But thanks be to God I can still resist it and not do the things it is telling me to do.

I am still unsure what this really is, is it demonic oppression or schizophrenia? What are your opinions?

 

[67_Reasons]

These are known as doubts, The only way to turn from them is to turn to Jesus first and scripture second. You could also ask your preacher for help. He/she might suggest discernment and try going to Ash Wednesday and if your demons name is known write it down and place it in the offering plate, "The feet of the cross", so to speak.

This helped me in reacquiring the Lord's peace, in my darkest times. It took me fifteen years but it managed to recede in time. FYI; Don't handle your exorcising of demons on your own...

 

[Neostarwcc]

Honestly? I suffer from both bipolar and schizophrenia so I identify with each and every one of your concerns. There were times that I don't really like discussing here where I thought that God was evil lets just say. There have been times where I've wanted to give up on God and give up entirely. But, none of these things are true. Each day is another walk and challenge with God that you know what? We will always overcome. Why? Because God is with us.

If schizophrenia wasdemonic possession the demons would win over our free will in the end and we would do what the demons want and tell us to do. Because we're susceptible to giving into demonic possession like that. It's impossible for a child of God to become possessed by a demon if you ask my personal experience. I've never seen it before and I've actually seen demonic possession and have been actually possessed by demons before I converted to Christianity.

You thrash on the ground, say way worse things about God than you would normally, and 99.9% of it you don't remember. It's much, much different. You're not being possessed it's your mental illness acting up on you and it's Satan attacking you trying to use your mental illness against you. Like God protected Peter from Satan God will protect you the same. He protects all of his children.

 

[Jaxxi]

I was diagnosed with schizophrenia after two suicide attempts when I thought the Holy Spirit had left me and experienced some pretty wild hallucinations.

This schizophrenia pretends to be a demon. It first pretended to be God but once it was clear that it wasn't God it said that it's a demon.

It does the following things day in day out (I only get a break when sleeping):
- Blaspheme the Holy Spirit or Jesus, rarely the Father
- Try to get me to leave, deny or reject Christ
- Try to get me to hate God
- Try to get me to love Satan or say that he is God
- Try to get me to sin in various ways

It does this not through voices but through thoughts. It puts these thoughts into my mind and pretends to be me. It can also move my body parts if I allow it to, usually it moves my head to communicate with me.

But thanks be to God I can still resist it and not do the things it is telling me to do.

I am still unsure what this really is, is it demonic oppression or schizophrenia? What are your opinions?

We are not really permitted to tell you our thoughts on here.

 

[Unqualified]

It sure seems like it sometimes. But the voices don’t rebuke and go away in Jesus Name. They just keep hanging on. Remember Lenny Bruce when he was a fighter. Hung on the ropes and took a beating. Didn’t even hurt him. That’s one option. Fighting back at times. Suffering for Christ at times.

in the Bible it was demons causing the madness, now it’s the mind, unbalanced and living what god says is an evil heart. But that’s only half. The other half has willingness to obey God. The spirit is willing the flesh is weak. And so the battle. Jesus Loves You.

 

[Job405]

Honestly? I suffer from both bipolar and schizophrenia so I identify with each and every one of your concerns. There were times that I don't really like discussing here where I thought that God was evil lets just say. There have been times where I've wanted to give up on God and give up entirely. But, none of these things are true. Each day is another walk and challenge with God that you know what? We will always overcome. Why? Because God is with us.

If schizophrenia wasdemonic possession the demons would win over our free will in the end and we would do what the demons want and tell us to do. Because we're susceptible to giving into demonic possession like that. It's impossible for a child of God to become possessed by a demon if you ask my personal experience. I've never seen it before and I've actually seen demonic possession and have been actually possessed by demons before I converted to Christianity.

You thrash on the ground, say way worse things about God than you would normally, and 99.9% of it you don't remember. It's much, much different. You're not being possessed it's your mental illness acting up on you and it's Satan attacking you trying to use your mental illness against you. Like God protected Peter from Satan God will protect you the same. He protects all of his children.

Well I've had the following experiences with the so called demon (or mental illness):
- When I tell it to leave or rebuke it in Jesus name it just says "no"
- I've prayed to God to remove it and have asked dozens if not hundreds of people to pray for me, but nothing has changed
- It agrees when I say Jesus is come in the flesh, which if it was an evil spirit it should be impossible according to 1 John 4:3
- It can read my thoughts which demons should not be able to do to someone with the Holy Spirit
- Antipsychotic meds eliminate its abilities to cause hallucinations, but it can still insert thoughts into my mind
- It doesn't seem to have any supernatural powers that I know of, but it tricked me into thinking I could speed read the Bible if I said in my mind "I am Jesus Christ" (which is basically blasphemy)
- It tried to trick me into blaspheming the Holy Spirit by making me think that there was something wrong with my spirit
- Almost every thought I have it tries to twist it to somehow blaspheme the Holy Spirit, like if I think "I'll just throw this garbage in the trash can", then it'll add the Holy Spirit to that somehow

It definitely seems to have properties of both a demon and a mental illness like schizophrenia. I'm just not sure what the problem actually is.

 

[Unqualified]

Well I've had the following experiences with the so called demon (or mental illness):
- When I tell it to leave or rebuke it in Jesus name it just says "no"
- I've prayed to God to remove it and have asked dozens if not hundreds of people to pray for me, but nothing has changed
- It agrees when I say Jesus is come in the flesh, which if it was an evil spirit it should be impossible according to 1 John 4:3
- It can read my thoughts which demons should not be able to do to someone with the Holy Spirit
- Antipsychotic meds eliminate its abilities to cause hallucinations, but it can still insert thoughts into my mind
- It doesn't seem to have any supernatural powers that I know of, but it tricked me into thinking I could speed read the Bible if I said in my mind "I am Jesus Christ" (which is basically blasphemy)
- It tried to trick me into blaspheming the Holy Spirit by making me think that there was something wrong with my spirit
- Almost every thought I have it tries to twist it to somehow blaspheme the Holy Spirit, like if I think "I'll just throw this garbage in the trash can", then it'll add the Holy Spirit to that somehow

It definitely seems to have properties of both a demon and a mental illness like schizophrenia. I'm just not sure what the problem actually is.

I don’t like to talk about it also, but you sure sound similar to me. How are you getting along in your life? Are you depressed, functioning or are you disabled by it? Maybe it is no big deal to you. I had trouble functioning but I had a job for a while. My relationships weren’t to hot but I had a loving family. I was just always down on myself, confused underachiever. Always looking for something better; if I had not made my own unhappiness and not been always in sin it may have turned out better. Now I’m not so worried and am well taken care of by the Lord in my older years. If you can function then don’t take that diagnosis, be content, keep working.

 

[67_Reasons]

Well I've had the following experiences with the so called demon (or mental illness):
- It agrees when I say Jesus is come in the flesh, which if it was an evil spirit it should be impossible according to 1 John 4:3

Please be cautious about this one; I too am schizophrenic, have had contacts with demons, and have had shades of doubts.

My demon didn't effect me like most do, in my case he made me feel guilty about current events where people have died. and I was in the moment of a very passionate prodigy where "I wanted something" and it was used against me often.

I was lucky enough to be pulled out of it, by another entity who I'm guessing "Hoping" was an angel. And it happened right on time as well, because I was in a terrible place against the Lord at the time.

Today I tend to have almost forgotten that age, because it's meaningless because now me and God are almost inseparable and I'm learning something new about him each day...

 

[Neostarwcc]

Well I've had the following experiences with the so called demon (or mental illness):
- When I tell it to leave or rebuke it in Jesus name it just says "no"
- I've prayed to God to remove it and have asked dozens if not hundreds of people to pray for me, but nothing has changed
- It agrees when I say Jesus is come in the flesh, which if it was an evil spirit it should be impossible according to 1 John 4:3
- It can read my thoughts which demons should not be able to do to someone with the Holy Spirit
- Antipsychotic meds eliminate its abilities to cause hallucinations, but it can still insert thoughts into my mind
- It doesn't seem to have any supernatural powers that I know of, but it tricked me into thinking I could speed read the Bible if I said in my mind "I am Jesus Christ" (which is basically blasphemy)
- It tried to trick me into blaspheming the Holy Spirit by making me think that there was something wrong with my spirit
- Almost every thought I have it tries to twist it to somehow blaspheme the Holy Spirit, like if I think "I'll just throw this garbage in the trash can", then it'll add the Holy Spirit to that somehow

It definitely seems to have properties of both a demon and a mental illness like schizophrenia. I'm just not sure what the problem actually is.

Exactly! It cannot be a demon! It is your own brain "saying" those things to you because we don't have brains like "normal" people. They're trying to figure it out and I feel like one day we will finally have the answer whether it comes from Christ or from medical professionals but as of this moment it is a complete mystery why and how mental illnesses exist.

But your faith isn't being hindered by your brain I can tell from your posts. God promised that his God given faith will last forever. That's all you can really remember and hope for at this point. Your brain may occasionally say bad things about God but your faith is still there. Your ability to repent and pray to God even though he doesn't expect it because he completely understands what is going on with you while you or anybody else doesn't understand you. He loves you and nothing can take you away from being his Child, even if you are being possessed (Which is impossible)

 

[Gary987]

I was diagnosed with schizophrenia after two suicide attempts when I thought the Holy Spirit had left me and experienced some pretty wild hallucinations.

This schizophrenia pretends to be a demon. It first pretended to be God but once it was clear that it wasn't God it said that it's a demon.

It does the following things day in day out (I only get a break when sleeping):
- Blaspheme the Holy Spirit or Jesus, rarely the Father
- Try to get me to leave, deny or reject Christ
- Try to get me to hate God
- Try to get me to love Satan or say that he is God
- Try to get me to sin in various ways

It does this not through voices but through thoughts. It puts these thoughts into my mind and pretends to be me. It can also move my body parts if I allow it to, usually it moves my head to communicate with me.

But thanks be to God I can still resist it and not do the things it is telling me to do.

I am still unsure what this really is, is it demonic oppression or schizophrenia? What are your opinions?

Im going to be honest. This sounds like your mind repeating negative thoughts injected by demons. And an obsession with religious diligence. Both are not from God Jesus defeated death and the devil. But it did please god that they grow together in our minds as we see what God is battling for the freedom of his people.
If demons are speaking with us. I’m not sure what that means yet. Jesus was on a mission and satan spoke to him. So I’m sure the closer we are to doing something for God. These voices get louder and angrier. I don’t know how to stop it for you because myself if I had these moments. I trusted they would pass. But why it doesn’t pass for others. I do not know If also say your condition may be a direct mission for the body of Christ to heal but you have yet to encounter someone with the faith to destroy this strong hold in your mind. I do t know you and can’t lay hands. But I pray for peace in your heart despite what is happening in the mind

 

[67_Reasons]

I was diagnosed with schizophrenia after two suicide attempts when I thought the Holy Spirit had left me

Food for thought;
Do you write often?
Do you desire to be with the Lord and Son?
and Have you tried to discern or test the spirits through God, to see if the entity can be trusted?

If so for 1-2; might I suggest writing a poem about Jesus or just really pray from the heart that you want to be with Him, and you want Him only.

When after I did this I had a dream where I was at a dinning room table and there was a stranger to my left, although I never looked at him. turned out after a few weeks when I got my math together I know now that this man could have only been one person. And when I woke up I had a strange fever and there was a latent sweet odor on my palm that was slightly stronger than anything I had been around the night before and it was like the fever itself was like I was on fire at the time and a radiation like boil was on my chest under my necklace cross that morning.

I will tell you another story from 2017 that happened to me..

It all started with this tomato plant right here--

-- When I met my said angel I realized the date was set on 9-11-16. which is why he needed to be approved by the Lord. So I asked the angel to do this for me; after I found this baby plant magically found it in a 1/2cm crevasse in between a stepping stone and the patio foundation. "Not a large space".

I made a deal with the angel in favor of the Lord that he would read the parable of the sower, and if I could hear it from my preacher at church I would buy a new Bible and entrust it to the angel this started on Thursday and onto that Sunday at church. And it was as given Luke 8:5-9. Then and so I kept my word to the angel and bought a new Bible.

If this inspirational moment from my past my get the spirit back to you, just remember this
Religion is a pathway to Faith but don't hold onto it. Faith once acquired will become a treasure that no man can ever take from you. The true power of faith can burn you. and above all God wants warriors not worriers. Amen...

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

Well I've had the following experiences with the so called demon (or mental illness):
- When I tell it to leave or rebuke it in Jesus name it just says "no"
- I've prayed to God to remove it and have asked dozens if not hundreds of people to pray for me, but nothing has changed
- It agrees when I say Jesus is come in the flesh, which if it was an evil spirit it should be impossible according to 1 John 4:3
- It can read my thoughts which demons should not be able to do to someone with the Holy Spirit
- Antipsychotic meds eliminate its abilities to cause hallucinations, but it can still insert thoughts into my mind
- It doesn't seem to have any supernatural powers that I know of, but it tricked me into thinking I could speed read the Bible if I said in my mind "I am Jesus Christ" (which is basically blasphemy)
- It tried to trick me into blaspheming the Holy Spirit by making me think that there was something wrong with my spirit
- Almost every thought I have it tries to twist it to somehow blaspheme the Holy Spirit, like if I think "I'll just throw this garbage in the trash can", then it'll add the Holy Spirit to that somehow

It definitely seems to have properties of both a demon and a mental illness like schizophrenia. I'm just not sure what the problem actually is.

You have described me perfectly every single thing that I think or say out loud either mentally or audibly out of my mouth it wants to add the Holy Ghost in it...... I could be doing something as easy as cooking dinner and it will make a Blasphemous thoughts about the Holy Ghost and cooking dinner it's absolutely crazy and it will not stop.....my passion and love for Jesus seems to have vanished all together........... it seems now after 7 years. My mind and body has become addicted so to speaking and thinking this way with every single thing I speak and think turning it somehow into a Blasphemous statement!!! I am utterly sick no matter how hard I try to stop its as if my flesh desires to think and feel this way

 

[Unqualified]

You have described me perfectly every single thing that I think or say out loud either mentally or audibly out of my mouth it wants to add the Holy Ghost in it...... I could be doing something as easy as cooking dinner and it will make a Blasphemous thoughts about the Holy Ghost and cooking dinner it's absolutely crazy and it will not stop.....my passion and love for Jesus seems to have vanished all together........... it seems now after 7 years. My mind and body has become addicted so to speaking and thinking this way with every single thing I speak and think turning it somehow into a Blasphemous statement!!! I am utterly sick no matter how hard I try to stop its as if my flesh desires to think and feel this way

Don’t worry about it too much if you can’t help it. Just say sorry to Him and you love should return. Don’t be afraid of condemnation if you are truly saved trying. I know God does not want to cut me off because of an illness, He has made provision for our sin by sending His Son to die to pay for all our sin. He loves you if you are truly saved and will forgive you.
Perhaps you have met with the rage of your enemies who fill your mind with such things. Keep trying and don’t give up. I don’t want to do my stuff too. Walk with Him in repentance. I have always fought to relieve my suffering, to get space to breathe. I can’t do it on my own. Jesus is always there, you are not alone.

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

Don’t worry about it too much if you can’t help it. Just say sorry to Him and you love should return. Don’t be afraid of condemnation if you are truly saved trying. I know God does not want to cut me off because of an illness, He has made provision for our sin by sending His Son to die to pay for all our sin. He loves you if you are truly saved and will forgive you.
Perhaps you have met with the rage of your enemies who fill your mind with such things. Keep trying and don’t give up. I don’t want to do my stuff too. Walk with Him in repentance. I have always fought to relieve my suffering, to get space to breathe. I can’t do it on my own. Jesus is always there, you are not alone.

Amen brother it is just so hard when you've lived so long miserable that you don't know what normal is it's as if your body has become addicted to feeling miserable....... it's almost too bizarre to explain every time I have these thoughts which is constant blasphemy against the Spirit it's as if my mind or body goes into psychosis

 

[Unqualified]

The way I hear it the only blasphemy of the spirit is when you die without Christ in your heart. The only unforgivable sin is when you cut off Christ and die with no hope and without Him.

 

[Jaxxi]

Exactly! It cannot be a demon! It is your own brain "saying" those things to you because we don't have brains like "normal" people. They're trying to figure it out and I feel like one day we will finally have the answer whether it comes from Christ or from medical professionals but as of this moment it is a complete mystery why and how mental illnesses exist.

But your faith isn't being hindered by your brain I can tell from your posts. God promised that his God given faith will last forever. That's all you can really remember and hope for at this point. Your brain may occasionally say bad things about God but your faith is still there. Your ability to repent and pray to God even though he doesn't expect it because he completely understands what is going on with you while you or anybody else doesn't understand you. He loves you and nothing can take you away from being his Child, even if you are being possessed (Which is impossible)

So are you suggesting that demons are not real and the Bible is lying? Aren't you aware that the biggest trick the devil ever played on man was to make him think that he and his crew are not real and are all in their heads? How do you explain when a person speaks 5 languages fluently when it is a known fact that the person only knows one language, or when a person literally walks up a wall only to do a backflip and land on their feet? Demons are not folklore. I am not saying this person has them but to say it cannot be a demon is very spiritually immature.

 

[Neostarwcc]

So are you suggesting that demons are not real and the Bible is lying? Aren't you aware that the biggest trick the devil ever played on man was to make him think that he and his crew are not real and are all in their heads? How do you explain when a person speaks 5 languages fluently when it is a known fact that the person only knows one language, or when a person literally walks up a wall only to do a backflip and land on their feet? Demons are not folklore. I am not saying this person has them but to say it cannot be a demon is very spiritually immature.

Not at all. Demons are 4ezl and the Bible isn't lying. My point was that possession for a believer is impossible because we have the Holy Spirit livinkng within our very soul. The Holy Spirit repels de m ons, demons cannot stand being present with God and vice versa. I merely meat that if uoure a believer possession n is impossible.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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