Peter believed in Sola Scriptura 2 Peter 1:19. Also, the Shroud of Turin is a fraud.

[Cockcrow]

2 Peter 1:19 “We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:” Peter who saw Jesus transfigured said that the bible is more sure than that. Roman Catholics falsely call Peter their first "pope" but yet Peter taught Sola Scriptura (Latin for Bible alone) yet Roman Catholic Apologists like Trent Horn rail against Sola Scriptura and you have to use other books and look at all these signs, statues and fake miracles. They hate Bible alone, they despise bible alone you can see it in their face.

Recently I have been seeing these so called "Shroud of Turin" videos and catholics are hitting people hard with this wicked false sign lying wonder. Jesus said in Matthew 12:39 “An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign ; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:” Jesus said hey you evil generation looking for all these signs and miracles and Shroud of Turin, apparitions of Mary, crying statues, bleeding hosts, and all that other mystical garbage.

Catholics look for all of these false signs and that Shroud thing, I think it could be the Antichrist actually because he will do signs and lying wonders what a great way to draw in Catholics for that deception then to say "see its me from the Shroud" this long haired (thats a sin on a man 1 Cor 11) false Jesus that you see in paintings for thousands of years it makes sense that the Antichrist would look like that. I saw one video on it and they were saying "look this is proof its a Jew from Jerusalem" and thats when the Lightbulb came on for me that hey this could be the Antichrists image.

2 Thessalonians 2:9–10 “Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.”

Roman Catholics like to claim Peter but they reject Peter, you don't believe Peter. and Peter also never told you to pray to Mary or dead believers, or bow down to statues. Salvation is faith alone in Christ alone John 3:36 “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” One mediator not Mary, not saints, no its the Lord Jesus Christ directly, you don't need any intercessors , no you pray to Jesus you say, Dear Jesus.

1 Peter 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

 

[Unqualified]

John 20 says he was wrapped in more than one linen cloth.. And a separate handkerchief for His head. That’s at least 3.
I don’t know what the shroud is maybe great but its not Jesus.

 

[Jeff Saunders]

2 Peter 1:19 “We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:” Peter who saw Jesus transfigured said that the bible is more sure than that. Roman Catholics falsely call Peter their first "pope" but yet Peter taught Sola Scriptura (Latin for Bible alone) yet Roman Catholic Apologists like Trent Horn rail against Sola Scriptura and you have to use other books and look at all these signs, statues and fake miracles. They hate Bible alone, they despise bible alone you can see it in their face.

Recently I have been seeing these so called "Shroud of Turin" videos and catholics are hitting people hard with this wicked false sign lying wonder. Jesus said in Matthew 12:39 “An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign ; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:” Jesus said hey you evil generation looking for all these signs and miracles and Shroud of Turin, apparitions of Mary, crying statues, bleeding hosts, and all that other mystical garbage.

Catholics look for all of these false signs and that Shroud thing, I think it could be the Antichrist actually because he will do signs and lying wonders what a great way to draw in Catholics for that deception then to say "see its me from the Shroud" this long haired (thats a sin on a man 1 Cor 11) false Jesus that you see in paintings for thousands of years it makes sense that the Antichrist would look like that. I saw one video on it and they were saying "look this is proof its a Jew from Jerusalem" and thats when the Lightbulb came on for me that hey this could be the Antichrists image.

2 Thessalonians 2:9–10 “Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.”

Roman Catholics like to claim Peter but they reject Peter, you don't believe Peter. and Peter also never told you to pray to Mary or dead believers, or bow down to statues. Salvation is faith alone in Christ alone John 3:36 “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” One mediator not Mary, not saints, no its the Lord Jesus Christ directly, you don't need any intercessors , no you pray to Jesus you say, Dear Jesus.

1 Peter 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

What makes you say Peter believed in Sola Scriptura ?

 

[Cockcrow]

What makes you say Peter believed in Sola Scriptura ?

Because he said we have a more sure word of Prophecy. Meaning more sure than what Peter saw with his eyes the transfiguration, he says even more sure than that, is the bible. Whereas Anti-Sola Scriptura people believe in the signs, false miracles, extra biblical revelations.

 

[Jeff Saunders]

Because he said we have a more sure word of Prophecy. Meaning more sure than what Peter saw with his eyes the transfiguration, he says even more sure than that, is the bible. Whereas Anti-Sola Scriptura people believe in the signs, false miracles, extra biblical revelations.

I still don't see sola scriptura in that, but even if it were, when Peter spoke the only scripture was the OT. Also if you believe in sola scriptura [ which I believe to be false ] show me in the OT that man was suppose to write a New Testament and that this new group of books was to be included, because no place in the OT scriptures is man told to include more books, that must be taken on faith not on scripture.

 

[Cockcrow]

I still don't see sola scriptura in that, but even if it were, when Peter spoke the only scripture was the OT. Also if you believe in sola scriptura [ which I believe to be false ] show me in the OT that man was suppose to write a New Testament and that this new group of books was to be included, because no place in the OT scriptures is man told to include more books, that must be taken on faith not on scripture.

Peter said that Pauls epistles are scripture 2 Peter 3:15-16 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

 

[concretecamper]

as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. - 2 Peter 3:16

Now all men, having the same judgment, some, following the Word speaking, frame for themselves proofs; while others, giving themselves up to pleasures, wrest Scripture, in accordance with their lusts.

Clement Of Alexandria

Does what I bolded ring true for you?

 

[Unqualified]

The new covenant and the messiah was prophesied in the OT. A prophet like Moses. Most of the prophets were written about why not the messiah. The OT is a shadow of the NT.

 

[Jeff Saunders]

Peter said that Pauls epistles are scripture 2 Peter 3:15-16 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

So if all of Paul's epistles are scripture why were some left out of the canon? It seems as if you are saying is that the OT scriptures are more real or authoritative than the transfiguration ? I believe all truth is Gods truth and 1+1=2 is just as much a Gods truth as scripture.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

this long haired (thats a sin on a man 1 Cor 11)

Really...it is a sin on all men? Sampson, John the baptizer, Elijah all had long hair.

 

[Jipsah]

Peter taught Sola Scriptura (Latin for Bible alone)

I reckon you have to chuck the New Testament, then, because that's the only "Bible" St. Peter had.

yet Roman Catholic Apologists like Trent Horn rail against Sola Scriptura and you have to use other books and look at all these signs, statues and fake miracles. They hate Bible alone, they despise bible alone you can see it in their face.

The best argument I can see for "Bible Alone" is that the Bible doesn't define a "Bible". We all pretty much agree with what the Bible is based on Holy Tradition, which you in fact despise (I can see it in your face). There's nothing in Holy Writ that says "Here's what constitutes Holy Writ". A lot of those old Catholic geezers who you so much despise hammered it out over centuries, moved by the Holy Spirit. YOu'd make it sound like it dropped from the sky, accompanied by God'sv oice booming out "Here's the manual , y'all!"

Recently I have been seeing these so called "Shroud of Turin" videos and catholics are hitting people hard with this wicked false sign lying wonder.

Yeah, the image on the Shroud (yeah, I capitalized it, dratted Anglo-Catholic that I am) is probably some other poor guy who was scourged within an inch of death, had something jammed on his head akin to a hat with spikes on the inside, crucified, and stabbed, Hey, it might just be a grisly work of art. If so, the bloke who did it had techniques of painting that no one has seen before or since.

But anyway, it's probably just a coincidence, or a rank forgery, or both, right? And if we Catholics (Roman and otherwise) think it might be authentic, it isn't really any skin off your nose, is it? It either is or it ain't. If is isn't, well, we got gulled into believing it was genuine. It we got played, then it's no matter. All it did was bring our focus on our Lord Christ, and His sacrifice for us. Hard to find any fault with that, IMO.

Jesus said in Matthew 12:39 “An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign

Don't need an impossible-to-recreate-painting of a tortured and crucified man to fill that bill. We've got billions of altogether unCatholic Christians searching for Signs of the End in every newscast and weather report. Are you equally as enraged at them as you are with those of us who believe that the shround just might be our Lord's burial shround burial cloth?

; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:” Jesus said hey you evil generation looking for all these signs and miracles and Shroud of Turin, apparitions of Mary, crying statues, bleeding hosts, and all that other mystical garbage.

Yep, we need to God to keep silent. Don't need nothing to get the good, stolid, unflappable Anerican Potestants worked up.

Catholics look for all of these false signs and that Shroud thing, I think it could be the Antichrist

Of course, because Signs of the End are specifically omitted trom the lists of "signs" that the evil and adulterous are looking for, and a firm belief in The Antichrist, an nd the Power of Satan are Protestant staples.

actually because he will do signs and lying wonders what a great way to draw in Catholics

Says he who Is telling us what signs he anticipates seeing the AC pull off. But that's different.

for that deception then to say "see its me from the Shroud" this long haired (thats a sin on a man

I may try that now! I'll dress up as the image on the Shround, and run around proclaiming that I'm Christ Returned, and then take a religious survey of those who buy into my pitch. If I was a betting man, I'd get more bites from Prots than I would from Catholics, but I might not, quien sabe?

1 Cor 11) false Jesus that you see in paintings for thousands of years it makes sense that the Antichrist would look like that.

I reckon a little plastic surgery and a white robe would get it done, and you wou;dn't need to talk about the Shroud at all. After all, how many people have actually paid any attention to it.

I saw one video on it and they were saying "look this is proof its a Jew from Jerusalem" and thats when the Lightbulb came on for me that hey this could be the Antichrists image.

Wow, rhat'd really be a... wait for it...sign!

2 Thessalonians 2:9–10 “Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.”

Sounds more like a Pentecostalist "revivalist" than some bloke running around the streets wearing a Jesus costume. Your mileage will probably vary.

Roman Catholics like to claim Peter but they reject Peter, you don't believe Peter. and Peter also never told you to pray to Mary or dead believers, or bow down to statues.

He never told your lot to ask Brother Jummy to pray for them, either, and if you believe that the Blessed Virgin is dead, then you obviously disagree with St. Paul, who maintained that to be absent from the Body was to be present with the Lord.

Salvation is faith alone in Christ alone John 3:36 “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

And you better not believet God performs unauthorized miraclest hat might possibly offend Protestant sensibilities.

1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”

So by cracky, you'd better not be caught asking anyone else to pray for you, in Heaven or on Earth!

One mediator not Mary, not saints,

Not old Miz Johnson, nor Preacher Jummy, not nobarietyody but God and Jesus. But if old Miz Johnson does pray for you, do you reckon it does any harm?

Anyway, lemme just distill this down. You don't like Catholics of any variety. Got it. I grew up in that kind of environment, and know it well. I don't want some, I've already had any. It's a common commodity, although not so prevalent here than it used to be. I grew up with "White Only" signs, and my Korean mom being referred to as "that d**m Jap". The anti-Catholic bigotry was just part of that same background noise. Half a century or so later, trying to dress it up with pious posturing doesn't change it a bit. It's same rubbish that kept Christians whose beliefs didn't really differ that much in any substantive way separated an dat sword's points. But I reckon That's What God Really Wants", right? He wasn't holy war between the Baptists (Yay!), and the Lutherans (Boo!); between the Holy Rollers (Hurray!) and the Romanists (Shame!), the Dunkers and the Sprinklers, the Kneelers and the Shouters. St Paul said "For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.", but he'd have had to choose a side, and it had better of been the right one, else we'd have had no time and no kind words for him.

There, I'm typed out.