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Parable of the Talents

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I remember Jesus asked a rich young man to give his wealth to the poor and was rejected (Matthew 19:16–30). Jesus visited the tax collector Zacchaeus who promised to give half his money to the poor (Luke19:1-10). Jesus praised Zacchaeus for his repentance. In the Gospel of John, Jesus was on the shore near where some of his disciples were fishing. He asked them to cast their net on the right side of the boat. After they cast their net, they hauled in a catch so large it nearly swamped the boat (John 21:6).

In the parable of the talents in Matthew 25:14-30 Jesus told about a man who called his servants and gave them each talents of silver to invest while he was away. The man returned and rewarded those whose investments grew. The one who buried his talent was rebuked for not lending it out at interest with a banker. He was no longer allowed to do investing. One who had doubled a five talent investment was put in charge of more.

I remember Jesus sent out his disciples without bread, a bag, or money (Mark 6:8). He gave them authority to heal and cast out demons. They were turning people towards the will of God.

Am I thinking too much about money, or are there some other meanings to the Parable of the Talents in Matthew 25?
 

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In the parable of the talents in Matthew 25:14-30 Jesus told about a man who called his servants and gave them each talents of silver to invest while he was away. The man returned and rewarded those whose investments grew. The one who buried his talent was rebuked for not lending it out at interest with a banker. He was no longer allowed to do investing. One who had doubled a five talent investment was put in charge of more. ... Am I thinking too much about money, or are there some other meanings to the Parable of the Talents in Matthew 25?

The Parable of the Talents is not about money; it's about using our gifts for God's Kingdom.
 
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I remember Jesus asked a rich young man to give his wealth to the poor and was rejected (Matthew 19:16–30). Jesus visited the tax collector Zacchaeus who promised to give half his money to the poor (Luke19:1-10). Jesus praised Zacchaeus for his repentance. In the Gospel of John, Jesus was on the shore near where some of his disciples were fishing. He asked them to cast their net on the right side of the boat. After they cast their net, they hauled in a catch so large it nearly swamped the boat (John 21:6).

In the parable of the talents in Matthew 25:14-30 Jesus told about a man who called his servants and gave them each talents of silver to invest while he was away. The man returned and rewarded those whose investments grew. The one who buried his talent was rebuked for not lending it out at interest with a banker. He was no longer allowed to do investing. One who had doubled a five talent investment was put in charge of more.

I remember Jesus sent out his disciples without bread, a bag, or money (Mark 6:8). He gave them authority to heal and cast out demons. They were turning people towards the will of God.

Am I thinking too much about money, or are there some other meanings to the Parable of the Talents in Matthew 25?

Where Jesus speaks in parables he is using an earthly story with earthly measures to impart a spiritual meaning or story or truth. The earthly story does carry meaning, but as Christians we dig for spiritual gold. I believe, as do many others, that the talents are spiritual gifts bestowed on each believer. God holds us accountable for how we put them to use in His Kingdom or in some cases if we have even put or do put them to use. For an idea of some of the spiritual gifts see I Corinthians 12:4-11, but there are surely others.
 
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I believe, as do many others, that the talents are spiritual gifts bestowed on each believer.

Not only spiritual gifts. The English word "talent" (meaning an ability for music or something else) actually comes from this parable.
 
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Not only spiritual gifts. The English word "talent" (meaning an ability for music or something else) actually comes from this parable.
Another good observation...some forget that the material or earthly message can carry much meaning as it does in this parable.
 
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Am I thinking too much about money, or are there some other meanings to the Parable of the Talents in Matthew 25?
imo, all the above posters have given excellent reasoning for this scripture.
It also remembers me that when one is given much, five talents, much is required.
 
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The Parable of the Talents is not about money; it's about using our gifts for God's Kingdom.
I think it is also about being a good manager of one's possessions. If you learn a difficult job skill that is profitable, or learn how to invest in a successful business, you may not lack bread.

If I give bread to the poor, I may not get any interest in return, but may get a blessing. This is like lending without expecting any monetary compensation in return. The Holy Spirit is not measured on a scale like a 75 pound talent of silver.
 
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I think it is also about being a good manager of one's possessions. If you learn a difficult job skill that is profitable, or learn how to invest in a successful business, you may not lack bread.

I think you're missing the point here. The "Master" in the parable is God, who gives gifts and abilities of various kinds. If we are to gain the accolade "Well done, good and faithful servant," we should be using those gifts and abilities for His kingdom.
 
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Excellent posts from Radagast and Hank77.

Adding my two cents, while wondering how many cents are in a talent...

I would point out that the word talent is replaced with silver(s)* in verses 18 and 27. Silver being the Lord's Teaching (Psalm 12:6), depositing it with the bankers would then imply sharing the Gospel with unbelievers (or even believers), from whom the Lord would receive their confession (or works) of faith as interest.

Also, the word that is usually translated as trade in verse 16 is the same word translated as work elsewhere, a useful reference for those arguing the importance of faith and works.

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* I'm using the Greek text. English translations vary.
 
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from ---- The Talents: "The Fate of an Unlikely Hero"

Parable of the Talents


The parable of the Talents (Mt 25:14-28) is about a servant who acts honorably by burying money given in trust, courageously denouncing an exploitive master, and as a result is consigned to extinction for his audacity.

Most people understand the story as Matthew has (cf. Lk 19:12-24). But his concluding editorial, "To all those who have, more will be given, but from those who have nothing, even what they have will be taken away" is at odds with everything else Jesus says on the subject of haves and have-nots (Mk 10:25/Mt 19:24/Lk 18:25; Mt 6:19-21/Lk 12:33-34; Mt 19:30; Mt 20:16; Lk 6:24; Lk 16:19-31); and Jesus was obviously no capitalist. Matthew's editorial implies that the first two servants are the heroes of the story, which Jewish peasants would have found outrageous.(1)

As Richard Rohrbaugh and William Herzog have demonstrated -- though in very different ways, as we will see -- the third servant is the hero of this parable, because he acted honorably and refused to participate in the rapacious schemes of the master. Contrast with the agenda of the first two servants:

"First things first: the master's initial investment must be secured, then doubled; after that, the retainers can make their profit. They are always walking a tightrope, keeping the master's gain high enough to appease his greed and not incur his wrath while keeping their own accumulations of wealth small enough not to arouse suspicion yet lucrative enough to insure their future. The master knows the system too, and as long as the retainers keep watch of his interests and maintain a proper yield, he does not begrudge their gains. In fact, he stands to gain a great deal by encouraging the process. Not only do the retainers do his dirty work, exploiting others for profit, but they siphon off anger that would otherwise be directed at him." (Herzog, Parables as Subversive Speech, p 160).

The first two servants do exactly as expected of them, doubling the master's money and presumably making some "honest graft" on the side, as all retainers did in agrarian empires. But the third servant acts completely out of character -- this alone is the tip-off that he will be the story's hero -- by digging a hole and burying the master's money to keep it intact, acting in accordance with Jewish law.(2)

When the master (naturally) rewards the two servants, the third servant acts stunningly by blowing the whistle on him (as Herzog puts it), while at the same time giving him back the money he had buried in trust: "Master, I know that you are a hard man, reaping where you did not sow, gathering where you did not scatter." This retainer says what every peasant has always wanted to say.

An alternate version of this parable was preserved in the Gospel of the Nazorenes (now lost), reported by Eusebius. Here the third servant is accepted with joy, while the other two are condemned. In "A Peasant Reading of the Talents/Pounds", Rohrbaugh notes the chiastic structure:

The master had three servants:

A one who squandered his master’s substance with harlots and flute girls
B one who multiplied the gain
C and one who hid the talent;

and accordingly,

C’ one was accepted with joy
B’ another merely rebuked
A’ and another cast into prison.

(Eusebius, Theophania; from Hennecke & Schneemelcher, New Testament Apocrypha 1:149)

Though I'm eternally suspicious of arguments based on chiastic structures, this one is powerful. Here we have an ancient author who rejected the Matthean judgment on the third servant, while modern critics insist on vilifying him.

Like many of Jesus' parables, the Talents ends on dark ambiguity. "The whistle-blower is no fool," says Herzog. "He realizes that he will pay a price, but he has decided to accept the cost (p 167)." The question is who his friends are after banishment. Will peasants acknowledge and respect his honorable course of action, or would the fact that he was a retainer make such meeting of the minds impossible? Listeners are left pondering the fate of an unlikely hero.


Endnotes

1. The ways in which critics have followed Matthew's (and Luke's) demonizing of the third servant are astounding. C.H. Dodd thinks that the third servant's "overcaution" and "cowardice" led to a breach in trust. T.W. Manson believes that the punishment for the third servant's "neglected opportunity" was a complete "deprivation of opportunity". Dan Via says the third servant's "refusal to take risks" led to repressed guilt and the loss of opportunity for any meaningful existence. John Donahue thinks that out of "fear of failing", the third servant refused even to try to succeed. The list could go on and on. (See Herzog, p 153.)

2. According to the Mishnah, money could be guarded honorably only by placing it in the earth: M.B. Mes. 3:10; B.B. Mes. 42a.

Bibliography

Eusebius: Theophania (from Hennecke & Schneemelcher, New Testament Apocrypha, Westminster, 1963.)

Herzog, William: Parables as Subversive Speech, Westminster John Knox, 1994.

Malina, Bruce & Rohrbaugh, Richard: Social Science Commentary on the Synoptic Gospels, Second Edition, Augsburg Fortress, 2003.

Rohrbaugh, Richard: "A Peasant Reading of the Talents/Pounds: A Text of Terror", BTB 23:32-39, 1993.
 
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Excellent posts from Radagast and Hank77.

Thanks!

Silver being the Lord's Teaching (Psalm 12:6), depositing it with the bankers would then imply sharing the Gospel with unbelievers (or even believers), from whom the Lord would receive their confession (or works) of faith as interest.

I think you may be reading something into the parable that isn't there. It's a parable, not an allegory.
 
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The parable of the Talents (Mt 25:14-28) is about a servant who acts honorably by burying money given in trust, courageously denouncing an exploitive master, and as a result is consigned to extinction for his audacity.

This takes Jesus' story and removes Jesus' explanation, so as to give a Marxist reading. I consider this sort of thing to be blasphemy.
 
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This takes Jesus' story and removes Jesus' explanation, so as to give a Marxist reading. I consider this sort of thing to be blasphemy.

Marxist? I believe that the interpretation I posted above puts the parable correctly in the context of the culture. I do believe that I will stick with it.
 
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Marxist? I believe that the interpretation I posted above puts the parable correctly in the context of the culture. I do believe that I will stick with it.
You give the appearance of advancing some of what may be your own pet peeves. Otherwise where are the groundings for some of the conclusions you draw and put forth to us here?
Your opening line for starters is totally without foundation. It draws a conclusion without providing support.
The parable of the Talents (Mt 25:14-28) is about a servant who acts honorably by burying money given in trust, courageously denouncing an exploitive master, and as a result is consigned to extinction for his audacity.
The master is God...always is, to my recollection...you defame Him, hopefully without knowledge, when you call him an exploitive master...He made everything and everything is His.
It is never courageous nor honorable to work against one's master. Take a look at passages such as the following: --Ephesians 6:5-6
 
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You give the appearance of advancing some of what may be your own pet peeves. Otherwise where are the groundings for some of the conclusions you draw and put forth to us here?
Your opening line for starters is totally without foundation. It draws a conclusion without providing support.

The master is God...always is, to my recollection...you defame Him, hopefully without knowledge, when you call him an exploitive master...He made everything and everything is His.
It is never courageous nor honorable to work against one's master. Take a look at passages such as the following: --Ephesians 6:5-6

Given his target audience and the cultural/religious understandings of that time and place, I do not think that this parable is about God at all. I do agree that this is perhaps how it was interpreted by some. I think that the actual import of this and other parables is a warning not to be taken in by or contaminated by the exploiters.
 
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Given his target audience and the cultural/religious understandings of that time and place, I do not think that this parable is about God at all. I do agree that this is perhaps how it was interpreted by some. I think that the actual import of this and other parables is a warning not to be taken in by or contaminated by the exploiters.
You have not addressed my point of concern I stated above...not at all...which is you have no groundings or supportive facts for your conclusions yet you hold dearly to them. That is not wisdom; it is in fact foolish. In fact if I were to look at this parable from only a worldly point of view I could not find your view being espoused. An exploiter does not give his money away to folks! And again, we are not to see this parable from a strictly worldly point of view.
This is indeed a parable with God at the center...the master, the giver of all good gifts...and the parable ends with a concluding teaching...the hallmark of a parable.
I, sadly, continue in my assumption that you have some pet peeves dealing with how economies function. If I am wrong then just let this comment stand as a good Scriptural warning to all...we are all to endure hardship and persecution as Jesus Himself teaches:
Matthew 5:11-12:
11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
This then is to be our reaction in the face of hardship according to the good Master.
THIS IS NOT OUR HOME! So quit trying to make it one.
 
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Given his target audience and the cultural/religious understandings of that time and place, I do not think that this parable is about God at all. I do agree that this is perhaps how it was interpreted by some. I think that the actual import of this and other parables is a warning not to be taken in by or contaminated by the exploiters.

But, since you disagree with Jesus' own statements about the parable recorded in Matthew's gospel, I consider your opinion to be without value.
 
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And again, we are not to see this parable from a strictly worldly point of view.

Indeed. Matthew presents the parable as a continuation of the parable of the ten virgins, and having the same subject -- the kingdom of heaven (verse 14 refers back to verse 1).
 
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