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Need Help - Night Terrors as an Adult

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I went to two local churches with this problem. One told me that this was my fault for not praying hard enough, and the other was very pushy and wanted to tell everyone in the congregation my problem. When I backed off, they started calling my wife and tell her I needed to come back. I thought that a forum wouldn't disrupt my privacy so much.

I am an educated man who believes that God created the world with certain scientific principles in mind, that His creation adheres to these laws unless he otherwise intervenes. What I'm going through can be explained using psychology, medicine, and whatever else, but I truly don't feel that it is a natural thing.

When I was a child I would get bad night terrors. At least once a week I would be plagued by dreams in which I would be attacked by a human-shaped thing in dark clothes without a face. Sometimes it would chase me through fields, sometimes it would be standing by my bed, and sometimes it would try to strangle me. I always felt awake during these dreams, and when they ended I would start screaming.

My parents called in our pastor who prayed over me multiple times. After my third or fourth dream, he convinced my parents that I was faking the dreams for attention, because he had prayed over me and the dreams should have left. After my parents told me to stop making stories up, I suffered in silence for fear of being punished.

The dreams stopped when I was 12. Everything was going fine. I grew up to work at the corporate office of a local bank, I have a good home, I have a powerful and intelligent wife, I have a strong circle of friends from church, and I have a daughter who has just turned 8. I am currently 29 years old and have to say that my life is going very well for the most part.

For the last three months, my dreams have been returning. The first time they happened I thought it was because I ate some bad Indian food and had more wine than I usually do at dinner. But the dreams kept happening. They're never that long, but I have the impression that I'm awake, and that there is a faceless person standing in my room staring at me. One time I dreamt (or actually walked into, I hope not) that I was in my daughter's room and the faceless person was sitting at the foot of her bed. It looked at me and then I woke up in the bathroom.

I've suffered in silence. I didn't tell my wife or my daughter, and I was angry that the church I visited spilled my secret to them. I didn't want to alarm anyone because I know there could be a hundred non-supernatural reasons for this.

Three weeks ago, I had a dream where I was lying on my stomach with my head toward the foot of the bed. I always sleep on my side with my head on a pillow, facing the right way. I could feel the bed dip like someone was sitting on it. I could hear my wife snoring a little. I didn't look back in the dream as I remember thinking that I didn't want to see this thing up close.

I've never heard the thing speak before. It said many things that I can't remember, but one thing stuck out as being somehow important. I'll try to type it up as close as possible to what it is. It said "I'm in between the walls you will never get away from me."

I've been doing some research on what causes these things, starting with the scientific ones. I don't read/watch any horror movies, I'm in good shape, I don't drink too much coffee, and other than a glass of wine every other night, I don't drink. I've read that dreams of faceless people or being attacked by animals sometimes represents an attack by demons, but I'm very skeptic and don't believe that the supernatural world of devils and goblins often interacts with our world to such an extent. But I have this feeling, and I can't shake it.

I hope that someone here can offer me guidance, or at least point me in the right direction of some good literature on the subject. I'm trying to take care of this quietly, between me, God, and a couple close friends. I've been praying and praying, but nothing has happened yet.

Can anyone give me something? It's too the point where I'm afraid to sleep.
 

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I am sorry that the churches you went to were not helpful. I am praying that the Lord will set you free of this.

My gut feel is that if it were purely demoinic, you would see other signs of this in your life. For example things like some kind of addiction, strife in relationships, misfortunes of various kinds, health issues, rebellion against people in authority, family history of involvement in the occult, etc. This being said, they can puggy-back on other issues in our life.

If it's not purely demonic, the next possibility I would suggest is some kind of major trauma as a child that your conscious mind has suppressed, but the fear of it is manifesting in your subconscious via dreams/nightmares. If this is correct, one way of getting to the root of it is through psycological counselling, ideally by a professionally qualified Christian.

In terms of the dream itself, other approaches you can try are bringing Jesus into your dream. Before you go to bed at night, read and meditate on some bible verses (eg Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you - Heb 13:5) and/or play some quiet praise & worship music in your bedroom if you & your wife are able to sleep with it on.

We can consciously interact in our dreams. So if you go to bed thinking about Jesus & calling on Him, you are more likely to be able to do this in the dream. Then when the thing appears, just call out to Jesus in your dream, eg "Jesus help". It may take a little time of cultivating that sense of His presence before you sleep to get to this point. But bringing Jesus into your dream situation will also help bring Him into the issue & heal it - whatever the problem is.

If you are armed with a sense of Jesus love for you (Perfect love drives out fear 1 John 4:18) & that He will protect you, it would also give you courage in the dream to turn & face what is chasing you. Again you can interract with it as you feel lead by God, for example asking it why it is chasing you, or saying "Jesus is with me. I am not afraid of you any more"

Hope this helps. God bless.
 
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I thought that a forum wouldn't disrupt my privacy so much.
Such a gem of an outlet, isn't it! I agree, a lot of drama and misinformation is prevented this way.
I was angry that the church I visited spilled my secret to them.
Yes, I know there is a strong doctrine about trusting the church family, but until one group gives you good reasons to trust them, there is no reason they need to know everything about your life.

After my parents told me to stop making stories up, I suffered in silence for fear of being punished.
:o Well, that's part of the problem!
I could feel the bed dip like someone was sitting on it.
This could be an inner ear sensation relating to balance. If you have fluid in your ear (or spiders) you might feel your body is moving when it isn't.

"I'm in between the walls you will never get away from me."
Look for some of the walls it might be talking about. You had to build up protective walls when your parents didn't believe your stories; you had to build up more walls to contain the spread of weirdness when church people tried to handle your dreams; a wall to protect your daughter from it;
you probably had some walls of fear in trying to manage the frightful dreams.

Taunting shows up in some of what you describe. Since you are a high achiever, look back through the times you felt taunted by kids at school or siblings.

After you have looked at various internal triggers, do some research on historic spirit lore. There seems to be no era or culture that does not have a history of evil spirit encounters.

We like to say we are above superstition; but if we ignore the extensive body of first-hand accounts, while defining tangible history with first-hand information, then our methodology has bias.

A good place to start --
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_demo1.htm


Look at what Jesus said about harassing spirits:

Mt 8:16
Mt 8:28
Mt 9:32 -33 Mt 10:1Mt 11:18
Mt 12:22Mt 12:45Mt 15:22
Mt 17:18Mr 1:27-32Mr 5:13-18Mr 6:7Mr 7:26 -30Lu 4:33 -36Lu 7:21-33Lu 8:2, 29 -36
Lu 9:42Lu 11:14Joh 7:20
Joh 8:48 -52

Joh 10:20 -21
And also...
Jas 3:15
Ac 5:16
Ac 8:7
Ac 19 But also some of the Jewish exorcists, who went from place to place...
1Co 12:10
1Co 14:32
1Ti 4:1
Heb 1:14
Heb 12
1Jo 4:1
Re 16:13+
Jud 9:23
1Sa 161Sa 18:10
1Sa 19:9
Sorry to load up so many links... I just think that some Christians don't notice how many biblical references there are, to unclean spirits.
 
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I thought that a forum wouldn't disrupt my privacy so much.
Such a gem of an outlet, isn't it! I agree, a lot of drama and misinformation is prevented this way.
I was angry that the church I visited spilled my secret to them.
Yes, I know there is a strong doctrine about trusting the church family, but until one group gives you good reasons to trust them, there is no reason they need to know everything about your life.

After my parents told me to stop making stories up, I suffered in silence for fear of being punished.
:o Well, that's part of the problem!
I could feel the bed dip like someone was sitting on it.
This could be an inner ear sensation relating to balance. If you have fluid in your ear (or spiders) you might feel your body is moving when it isn't.

"I'm in between the walls you will never get away from me."
Look for some of the walls it might be talking about. You had to build up protective walls when your parents didn't believe your stories; you had to build up more walls to contain the spread of weirdness when church people tried to handle your dreams; a wall to protect your daughter from it;
you probably had some walls of fear in trying to manage the frightful dreams.

Taunting shows up in some of what you describe. Since you are a high achiever, look back through the times you felt taunted by kids at school or siblings.

After you have looked at various internal triggers, do some research on historic spirit lore. There seems to be no era or culture that does not have a history of evil spirit encounters.

We like to say we are above superstition; but if we ignore the extensive body of first-hand accounts, while defining tangible history with first-hand information, then our methodology has bias.

A good place to start --
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_demo1.htm


Look at what Jesus said about harassing spirits:

Mt 8:16
Mt 8:28
Mt 9:32 -33 Mt 10:1Mt 11:18
Mt 12:22Mt 12:45Mt 15:22
Mt 17:18Mr 1:27-32Mr 5:13-18Mr 6:7Mr 7:26 -30Lu 4:33 -36Lu 7:21-33Lu 8:2, 29 -36
Lu 9:42Lu 11:14Joh 7:20
Joh 8:48 -52

Joh 10:20 -21
And also...
Jas 3:15
Ac 5:16
Ac 8:7
Ac 19 But also some of the Jewish exorcists, who went from place to place...
1Co 12:10
1Co 14:32
1Ti 4:1
Heb 1:14
Heb 12
1Jo 4:1
Re 16:13+
Jud 9:23
1Sa 161Sa 18:10
1Sa 19:9
Sorry to load up so many links... I just think that some Christians don't notice how many biblical references there are, to unclean spirits.

Some churches assume that any harassment from a spirit shows possession. But I think of the default as hovering and harassing that needs resisting, and the more extreme cases as take-overs that need deliverance.
 
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OK this is purely from personal experiences-it may be demonic because i have had almost very similar experiences-it stopped from becoming more spiritual -also as Christians who believe in the power of Christ we have authrotiy over such spirits.

So I would say whatever it is -just pray more before you go to bed -fast ,read the bible and take up your authority in Christ and rebuke them
 
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Please read Matthew 18:23-35

It is my belief that these are the 'tormentors' that Jesus is talking about. They follow us all day long but it is when we sleep that we can actually get a glimpse of them some time.

Something is troubling your conscience. There is probably something you need to repent and someone you need to forgive before they will go away.
 
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I believe what you are experiencing is demonic attack. It has happened to me in the past.

There are things that we do without realizing it, that are an invitation for Satan to enter your home. Movies, books, music, non-christian religions, philosophies etc. Violent or horror movies, violence in music, books, statues of budda or other non-christian things.

If you want to get rid of this thing, you will have to do a house cleaning of these types of items, bag them up and burn them. I know this sounds extreme, but I have experience with this type of thing.

You must guard what you allow your eyes to see by way of TV, movies, magazines, the media at large is really pretty much a portal to hell.

Then, annoint your home with olive oil, every window and doorway inside and out, every closet commanding whatever is not of God to leave and invite the Holy Spirit to take residence of that space, All in Jesus name.

Then be very careful what you allow into your home. It should be a safe sanctuary for you.

When we sleep our guard is down and the enemy will come in and plunder "IF" he has a legal right to do so. Don't leave an opening for him to come in. I will pray that this message reaches you and that you will be finally free of the tormentor.

I normally attend to this kind of spiritual "housecleaning" at least once a year.

Blessings
 
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I was having dreams like this and I asked God to make me a warrior in my dreams because I was tired of being suffocated, beaten, raped, etc. Then I became a warrior and I found out that dreams are more than real. After seeking some ministry I found how I had "open doors" to the enemy. It is like granting (unknowingly) the enemy permission to attack. After submitting to this ministry I am more free than ever and my children are safer too.
 
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The ministry I submitted to is cwlinc.com. This is a spirit filled minister of Jesus Christ and comes from a background of mental health, nursing, seminary, etc. I have worked with this minister personally doing seminars and ministering to people privately. She knows how to appropriate the Gospel to the part of our life that is under attack to stop them.
 
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An excellent book to get you started is Reclaiming Surrendered Ground by Jim Logan. Jim Logan is conservative in his approach on the subject. Not as "out there" as you might first think. My husband and I read it and it helped a whole lot. My husband bought over 100 of these books and gave them out. Even our children are safer from attacks now. We are better armed now.
 
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Dear Kim,


The case is not that easy, the bad spirits really exist and they try to harm us always, whatever were our religion, but the good thing for us that God and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had taught us prayers and verses from Quran, that can protect us from those demons, not only protect us but can burn them totally too, so they never come back.


In one of our prophet Muhammad Hadith (saying) he mentioned a speech by John the Baptist to his people and Jesus was him too, he described the “Zeker” mentioning and praising God as a man running and being chased by beasts or enemies, he hides in a high and well protected fort that they can reach him, those beasts are the devils and protected fort are the prayers and praising of God that can protect us..

So, it’s not an intention in heart “I am strong” only, you still need supply from God too..


I wish a lot that you listen to what I pasted above, please consider it a scientific test and see what will happen..


Good luck..
 
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I went to two local churches with this problem. One told me that this was my fault for not praying hard enough, and the other was very pushy and wanted to tell everyone in the congregation my problem. When I backed off, they started calling my wife and tell her I needed to come back. I thought that a forum wouldn't disrupt my privacy so much.

I'm sorry you experienced this ... been there about the 'not praying hard enough' ... foolishness ... what?! we serve a Lord not big enough to hear us unless we pray just right?!

I am an educated man who believes that God created the world with certain scientific principles in mind, that His creation adheres to these laws unless he otherwise intervenes. What I'm going through can be explained using psychology, medicine, and whatever else, but I truly don't feel that it is a natural thing.

I absolutely agree ... He has an order to things and truth must fit in that order ... like you said ... unless He intrevenes ... it's like chickens shouldn't eat their own bones and cows shouldn't be given hormones ... against His cosmic order ... mmm ... not natural in that we are not accustomed to it ... natural in that the warfare surrounds us always ...

When I was a child I would get bad night terrors. At least once a week I would be plagued by dreams in which I would be attacked by a human-shaped thing in dark clothes without a face. Sometimes it would chase me through fields, sometimes it would be standing by my bed, and sometimes it would try to strangle me. I always felt awake during these dreams, and when they ended I would start screaming.

this is what stood out to me ... a while back the Lord gave me the words 'eld pavor' in my situation ... never heard the words before ... they mean 'ancient terror' ... spirits are as ancient as souls ... in my case it eventually came out that what was bogging me down was a fear instilled in me of losing my family members when I was molested as a young child ... I was threatened that my baby sister would be next if I didn't cooperate ... I was 7 ... she was two ... it terrified me to think of that ... which the enemy used over me through the rest of my life until a few months ago ... when the Lord opened my eyes ... ... until then I had been unable to see the truth of what was going on with one of my children because my first instinct became always to protect ... over and over in my life this occurred and I didn't see it ... all in His time ...

My parents called in our pastor who prayed over me multiple times. After my third or fourth dream, he convinced my parents that I was faking the dreams for attention, because he had prayed over me and the dreams should have left. After my parents told me to stop making stories up, I suffered in silence for fear of being punished.

it's so sad we live in a world so deaf and blind ... unfortunatley that often comes from in our own families ... many have such a hard time believing what they don't understand ... the best we can do is learn to forgive and love ... it heals mostly everything in time ...

The dreams stopped when I was 12. Everything was going fine. I grew up to work at the corporate office of a local bank, I have a good home, I have a powerful and intelligent wife, I have a strong circle of friends from church, and I have a daughter who has just turned 8. I am currently 29 years old and have to say that my life is going very well for the most part.

for me ... we moved a few short weeks to another town and I became unaware that anything had ever happened until I became 'a woman' at 12 ... instantly the memories returned ... I learned He truly protects our hearts ... I think somehow puberty plays a part ... one way or another ...

For the last three months, my dreams have been returning. The first time they happened I thought it was because I ate some bad Indian food and had more wine than I usually do at dinner. But the dreams kept happening. They're never that long, but I have the impression that I'm awake, and that there is a faceless person standing in my room staring at me. One time I dreamt (or actually walked into, I hope not) that I was in my daughter's room and the faceless person was sitting at the foot of her bed. It looked at me and then I woke up in the bathroom.

is there something in your life recently (about the time they reoccurred) that brings back old fears of any kind?

I've suffered in silence. I didn't tell my wife or my daughter, and I was angry that the church I visited spilled my secret to them. I didn't want to alarm anyone because I know there could be a hundred non-supernatural reasons for this.

if you haven't ... let go of the anger! that will play a huge part ... anger comes with his friends ... pride, lust, jealousy ... etc. ... they rarely remain alone ... any place you give to the enemy is ground lost ... you can guarantee it will pop out when you least expect it ... and will do a wagon load of damage ...

Three weeks ago, I had a dream where I was lying on my stomach with my head toward the foot of the bed. I always sleep on my side with my head on a pillow, facing the right way. I could feel the bed dip like someone was sitting on it. I could hear my wife snoring a little. I didn't look back in the dream as I remember thinking that I didn't want to see this thing up close.

jmo, but here it is ...

Jesus gives us authority over all our enemies ... tell them to go away and call on Jesus ... if you tell them to leave in Jesus name ... they HAVE to leave and they know it ... oh, they'll come back if we give them place and don't fill the space with things of the Lord ... but they will go because they have to ... your authority is in Luke 10:19 ...

Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

they can NOT hurt you ... fear is not of the Lord ... He says fear not ... I take that to mean don't be paralyzed by it ... it's pretty natural to get scared ...

I've never heard the thing speak before. It said many things that I can't remember, but one thing stuck out as being somehow important. I'll try to type it up as close as possible to what it is. It said "I'm in between the walls you will never get away from me."

again ... jmo ... I don't believe in demons, per se ... they are real ... but what they are is spirits not of the Lord ... thereby, spirits with no authority over you ... and they have no ability to physically hurt you ... and I sure wouldn't give them more credit than due ...

I've been doing some research on what causes these things, starting with the scientific ones. I don't read/watch any horror movies, I'm in good shape, I don't drink too much coffee, and other than a glass of wine every other night, I don't drink. I've read that dreams of faceless people or being attacked by animals sometimes represents an attack by demons, but I'm very skeptic and don't believe that the supernatural world of devils and goblins often interacts with our world to such an extent. But I have this feeling, and I can't shake it.

here is where I disagree ... Satan has little time left ... and he knows it ... and he's desperate ... and scripture tells us in the end times the spirit of antichrist will be abounding ... scripture also tells principalities and pwers is what we war against ... not the flesh ...

Ephesians 6:12
the whole armor of God

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

I hope that someone here can offer me guidance, or at least point me in the right direction of some good literature on the subject. I'm trying to take care of this quietly, between me, God, and a couple close friends. I've been praying and praying, but nothing has happened yet.

I truly pray this all helps you sort things out ... I will, for sure, meditate on this and see if anything more comes ...

Can anyone give me something? It's too the point where I'm afraid to sleep.

hello, HillsOfZion :)

I said earlier, but I want to repeat ... do not fear! the Lord is always with us ... he will not leave us and He will not forsake us ... fear is not of Him ... it is a tool of the enemy ... give it NO place ... the enemy must see good things coming for you or he wouldn't be so worried ... don't get pulled away from keeping your focus on JESUS ... get your eyes off the enemy ... learn to trust the Lord ... that feeling you're getting and can't shake ... if I had my guess it's the dawning of an understanding ... just a guess ... ride with the Lord ... ditch the enemy ... it's a far more pleasant ride ...

seek the Lord hard on this ... you WILL find His answer ...

may the Lord bless you on the Way ...
 
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