NOTE: I don't often use internet research, but I followed links from a Christian forum to the forum in question (listed below).
I have been asking around countless forums and doing my own research, but I still haven't found concrete proof of whether or not the place in question is a "Christian" or real forum group or a group of trolls. So instead, I'll pose this question: do you believe it is ethically sound - by either secular or Biblical standards, whichever you choose if not both - to punish children in the following ways?
Don't know if this is the right place, but I wanted to get some Christian opinions about a specific site.
I've been writing an article about the correlations between spanking a child, IQ, and crime rates in areas that boast higher approval ratings of corporal punishment. While doing some research, I came across a forum called Voy.com.
There are many threads and topics relating to spanking in this forum. I skimmed a lot of the topics. I was disturbed, to say the least.
In a forum dedicated to spanking memories, a number of people recalled how, as teenagers, they were often spanked naked by parents or step parents, forced to assume positions that would display their fully developed genitals. In many of these instances, neighbors, other family members, and even acquaintances of the families were present and watching. This was recalled as being "just fine."
One thread was about age, and some women and men recalled being spanked naked or with bare buttocks by parents, uncles, or step-parents as old as twenty. This was said to be "just fine."
There are about five threads dedicated to how a parent should handle their male teenager becoming sexually aroused when spanked. Many said that this was "a completely normal reaction to being naked" and that erection could be taken care of by - and I'm not making this up - flicking the penis, whipping the penis, or sharply pulling on the penis.
Most of the posters say that it is "just fine" - nay, required! - that the child be completely humiliated during their punishment. They also advocate the use of implements - belts, straps, and paddles - and claim that their children (or themselves, when they were living with their parents) would not be able to sit without pain for multiple days afterward.
Typically, when numbers are listed, parents say that, when using an implement, they should strike the child's buttocks 30-60 times.
Some of the more hardcore parents advocate the use of extension cords and plastic pipe tubing, implements that were also favored by Larry and Constance Slack (whose child died from internal bleeding after 117 strokes) and Kevin and Elizabeth Schatz (who - according to the girl's siblings - beat their adopted daughter because she pronounced "four" as "fo").
Now I consider myself as a man with a level head. My first response was to shake my head in disbelief, as I truly believed that - like Landover Baptist Church - this was a farce, a satire of Christian parenting techniques. However, it didn't really seem all that hyperbolic, and it wasn't funny at all. It seemed like a poor attempt at satire.
These forums, however, seemed to be full of seriousness and often used Biblical citations to justify their actions.
VoyForums: Childhood Spanking Memories
Erections during spanking -- Old Fashioned Spanking for Teenaged Males
I have been asking around countless forums and doing my own research, but I still haven't found concrete proof of whether or not the place in question is a "Christian" or real forum group or a group of trolls. So instead, I'll pose this question: do you believe it is ethically sound - by either secular or Biblical standards, whichever you choose if not both - to punish children in the following ways?
Don't know if this is the right place, but I wanted to get some Christian opinions about a specific site.
I've been writing an article about the correlations between spanking a child, IQ, and crime rates in areas that boast higher approval ratings of corporal punishment. While doing some research, I came across a forum called Voy.com.
There are many threads and topics relating to spanking in this forum. I skimmed a lot of the topics. I was disturbed, to say the least.
In a forum dedicated to spanking memories, a number of people recalled how, as teenagers, they were often spanked naked by parents or step parents, forced to assume positions that would display their fully developed genitals. In many of these instances, neighbors, other family members, and even acquaintances of the families were present and watching. This was recalled as being "just fine."
One thread was about age, and some women and men recalled being spanked naked or with bare buttocks by parents, uncles, or step-parents as old as twenty. This was said to be "just fine."
There are about five threads dedicated to how a parent should handle their male teenager becoming sexually aroused when spanked. Many said that this was "a completely normal reaction to being naked" and that erection could be taken care of by - and I'm not making this up - flicking the penis, whipping the penis, or sharply pulling on the penis.
Most of the posters say that it is "just fine" - nay, required! - that the child be completely humiliated during their punishment. They also advocate the use of implements - belts, straps, and paddles - and claim that their children (or themselves, when they were living with their parents) would not be able to sit without pain for multiple days afterward.
Typically, when numbers are listed, parents say that, when using an implement, they should strike the child's buttocks 30-60 times.
Some of the more hardcore parents advocate the use of extension cords and plastic pipe tubing, implements that were also favored by Larry and Constance Slack (whose child died from internal bleeding after 117 strokes) and Kevin and Elizabeth Schatz (who - according to the girl's siblings - beat their adopted daughter because she pronounced "four" as "fo").
Now I consider myself as a man with a level head. My first response was to shake my head in disbelief, as I truly believed that - like Landover Baptist Church - this was a farce, a satire of Christian parenting techniques. However, it didn't really seem all that hyperbolic, and it wasn't funny at all. It seemed like a poor attempt at satire.
These forums, however, seemed to be full of seriousness and often used Biblical citations to justify their actions.
VoyForums: Childhood Spanking Memories
Erections during spanking -- Old Fashioned Spanking for Teenaged Males
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