Names of Blasphemy

[Stan Tei]

In Revelation 17 there is a phrase: "...many names of blasphemy."

According to the known biblical definition of blasphemy, where would these names come from? Who would they be?

 

[GuardianShua]

In Revelation 17 there is a phrase: "...many names of blasphemy."

According to the known biblical definition of blasphemy, where would these names come from? Who would they be?

Rome is called the city of the seven hills from which can be seen from the ocean. Upon each hill sat a Pagan temple, and each hill was named after that Pagan god. In the day when John wrote Revelation, the Roman soldiers would also paint in blood a dragon upon their shields.

 

[Stan Tei]

Guardian, I fail to see the connection between the statement of the prophecy to the application you are trying to make in your reply.

 

[GuardianShua]

Guardian, I fail to see the connection between the statement of the prophecy to the application you are trying to make in your reply.

Revelation 12:3
Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads.

Revelation 13:1
[ The Beast out of the Sea ] The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast [nation] coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.

Revelation 17:3
Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast [nation] that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns.

John 10
King James Version (KJV)
33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Revelation 17:7
Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman [Rome] and of the beast [Italy] she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns.

Revelation 17:9
“This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.
Rome.

 

[Stan Tei]

Sorry, but I know all these Scriptures. They do not answer the question. What is your commentary regarding them?

 

[Stan Tei]

I do not accept that Rome is the woman, nor that the beast is Italy.
It speaks of the seven heads as being seven mountains and are seven kings... five are fallen... have you ever heard of any of these "hills" in Rome fall? These are symbolic figures and are not literal.

 

[GuardianShua]

I do not accept that Rome is the woman, nor that the beast is Italy.
It speaks of the seven heads as being seven mountains and are seven kings... five are fallen... have you ever heard of any of these "hills" in Rome fall? These are symbolic figures and are not literal.

The kings have fallen, not the hills. I have studied with the SDA, but yet you do not know what I'm talking about.

 

[Stan Tei]

"but yet you do not know what I'm talking about."
That is because you have not written anything of substance to explain yourself. Perhaps you should now let someone else step up to the plate.

 

[ricker]

Rome is called the city of the seven hills from which can be seen from the ocean. Upon each hill sat a Pagan temple, and each hill was named after that Pagan god. In the day when John wrote Revelation, the Roman soldiers would also paint in blood a dragon upon their shields.

An interesting side note: I just looked up the seven hills of Rome, and the Vatican hill is not counted among the seven traditional hills.

Other than that, I have nothing to add to the speculation about this subject. Others may.

 

[Stan Tei]

You seem to be oblivious to the many deceptions of Satan, to flood the world with false interpretations to keep the people from seeing the truth. Jerusalem has also been given that label.

 

[Stan Tei]

The beast is the papacy and the many names of blasphemy are the many names of the popes. 79 of them.

 

[GuardianShua]

You seem to be oblivious to the many deceptions of Satan, to flood the world with false interpretations to keep the people from seeing the truth. Jerusalem has also been given that label.

Lol Google The bible speaks of two different Dragons; The Dragon of The Sea, and The Dragon of The Land, or Earth. Revelation also speaks of two different women. The one woman is Israel, and the other is Rome, or to be more exact, the Vatican. The smallest horn: Google

 

[GuardianShua]

An interesting side note: I just looked up the seven hills of Rome, and the Vatican hill is not counted among the seven traditional hills.

Other than that, I have nothing to add to the speculation about this subject. Others may.

Vatican Hill (in Latin, Mons Vaticanus ) is the name given, long before the founding of Christianity, to one of the hills on the side of the Tiber opposite the traditional seven hills of Rome. It may have been the site of an Etruscan town called Vaticum.
The name "Vatican" has often been thought to derive from the Latin "vates", meaning "seer, soothsayer", though this is uncertain and it is also possible that "Vaticanus" comes from an unrelated Etruscan loan-word. Indeed, the Vatican Hill was the home of the Vates long before pre-Christian Rome. Vaticanus, also known as Vagitanus, was an Etruscan god of prophecy, and his temple was built on the ancient site of Vaticanum (Vatican Hill).
In the 1st century AD, the Vatican Hill was outside the city limits and so could feature a circus (the circus of Nero) and a cemetery.
The Vatican Hill is not one of the famous seven hills of Rome although it was included within the city limits of Rome during the reign of Pope Leo IV, who, between 848 and 852, expanded the city walls. Thus, Vatican Hill has been within the walls and city limits of Rome for over 1100 years. Until the Lateran Treaties in 1929 it was part of the Rione of Borgo.
Before the Avignon Papacy (1305–1378), the headquarters of the Holy See were located at the Lateran Palace. After the Avignon Papacy the church administration moved to Vatican Hill and the papal palace was (until 1871) the Quirinal Palace, upon the Quirinal Hill.

 

[ricker]

Vatican Hill (in Latin, Mons Vaticanus ) is the name given, long before the founding of Christianity, to one of the hills on the side of the Tiber opposite the traditional seven hills of Rome. It may have been the site of an Etruscan town called Vaticum.
The name "Vatican" has often been thought to derive from the Latin "vates", meaning "seer, soothsayer", though this is uncertain and it is also possible that "Vaticanus" comes from an unrelated Etruscan loan-word. Indeed, the Vatican Hill was the home of the Vates long before pre-Christian Rome. Vaticanus, also known as Vagitanus, was an Etruscan god of prophecy, and his temple was built on the ancient site of Vaticanum (Vatican Hill).
In the 1st century AD, the Vatican Hill was outside the city limits and so could feature a circus (the circus of Nero) and a cemetery.
The Vatican Hill is not one of the famous seven hills of Rome although it was included within the city limits of Rome during the reign of Pope Leo IV, who, between 848 and 852, expanded the city walls. Thus, Vatican Hill has been within the walls and city limits of Rome for over 1100 years. Until the Lateran Treaties in 1929 it was part of the Rione of Borgo.
Before the Avignon Papacy (1305–1378), the headquarters of the Holy See were located at the Lateran Palace. After the Avignon Papacy the church administration moved to Vatican Hill and the papal palace was (until 1871) the Quirinal Palace, upon the Quirinal Hill.

There you go.

 

[GuardianShua]

There you go.

After the Avignon Papacy the church administration moved to Vatican Hill. The papal palace was upon the Quirinal Hill.

 

[Stan Tei]

The hills of Rome are irrelevant to the prophecy.
I don't know what version of Scripture you are using, but the Bible speaks of only ONE dragon. The others you refer to are not called the dragon. They are called beasts.

 

[GuardianShua]

The hills of Rome are irrelevant to the prophecy.
I don't know what version of Scripture you are using, but the Bible speaks of only ONE dragon. The others you refer to are not called the dragon. They are called beasts.

In the Old Testament they are called Behemoth and Leviathan.

Revelation 13:11
Then I saw a second [another] beast [nation], coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.
Revelation 13:1
And I stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name. 2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.

It is poorly worded, but there are two different Dragons [Secret Societies] associated with those beast [nations.]

 

[Stan Tei]

The beast from the sea is the papacy. It is not the dragon or a dragon. The beast from the earth is the USA and speaks like a dragon, but it is not the dragon nor a dragon.

 

[GuardianShua]

The beast from the sea is the papacy. It is not the dragon or a dragon. The beast from the earth is the USA and speaks like a dragon, but it is not the dragon nor a dragon.

I suggest you make a study of secret societies.

 

[ricker]

After the Avignon Papacy the church administration moved to Vatican Hill. The papal palace was upon the Quirinal Hill.

I didn't notice that. If I only had the time to study all the hills around Rome and the different Papal periods.....