Liberal Comedian Bill Maher to the Democratic Party

[Always in His Presence]

“My message to the losers: losers look in the mirror,” Maher said during his opening monologue as his audience went silent. “No? Well, maybe you should. Well, that’s my feeling. Losers look in the mirror.”
“For months Democrats have been saying, ‘How is this even close?’ and they’re right, it wasn’t.” Maher added, “This country has had enough of the anti-common-sense woke ~ Bill Maher

WOW! Perhaps he has awoken to the woke!

 

[durangodawood]

“My message to the losers: losers look in the mirror,” Maher said during his opening monologue as his audience went silent. “No? Well, maybe you should. Well, that’s my feeling. Losers look in the mirror.”
“For months Democrats have been saying, ‘How is this even close?’ and they’re right, it wasn’t.” Maher added, “This country has had enough of the anti-common-sense woke ~ Bill Maher

WOW! Perhaps he has awoken to the woke!

If the voters generally were pleased with the direction the economy was going, do you think we'd have changed horses because of the "woke" fuss?

I doubt it. I do agree that its been a distraction from the D's making their economic case. Do you think that case would have been strong enough if "woke" stuff wasnt muddying the waters?

 

[Always in His Presence]

If the voters generally were pleased with the direction the economy was going, do you think we'd have changed horses because of the "woke" fuss?

I doubt it. I do agree that its been a distraction from the D's making their economic case. Do you think that case would have been strong enough if "woke" stuff wasnt muddying the waters?

The Democratic Party's fixation on the 'woke fuss' is what took their eyes off of what was really important to the American public. And that is evidenced by the election results.

 

[rambot]

It shocking to me that the groups obsessed with trans folk are not actually liberals.


Also I'm really digging that right wingers are convinced that every platform in their policy is being supported by the election result.

I'll wait to see poll results and research on the matter before I go scribing the loss to anyone one thing.

 

[durangodawood]

The Democratic Party's fixation on the 'woke fuss' is what took their eyes off of what was really important to the American public. And that is evidenced by the election results.

Its the Rs that invoked woke stuff every second. When you look at the things Harris was actually talking about, it was mainly econ issues and policies.

Policy promises cant overcome the economic vibes tho. "Its the economy, stupid". Yet again.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Its the Rs that invoked woke stuff every second. When you look at the things Harris was actually talking about, it was mainly econ issues and policies.

Policy promises cant overcome the economic vibes tho. "Its the economy, stupid". Yet again.

9()% of what Harris spoke of is how bad Trump is supposed to be. The most repeated statement from her on the economy is how she grew up in a middle class home yaada yaada yaada.

 

[durangodawood]

9()% of what Harris spoke of is how bad Trump is supposed to be. The most repeated statement from her on the economy is how she grew up in a middle class home yaada yaada yaada.

Trump-bad was actually a pretty good talking point, especially for turnout rather than flipping voters. It wasnt going to overcome the economic vibes tho. I agree they needed to be economy issue 1 out of the gate. I still doubt that would overcome the voters bad feelings tho. Compared to all this "woke" is a total sideshow.

 

[Chesterton]

 

[Bobber]

If the voters generally were pleased with the direction the economy was going, do you think we'd have changed horses because of the "woke" fuss?

I doubt it. I do agree that its been a distraction from the D's making their economic case. Do you think that case would have been strong enough if "woke" stuff wasnt muddying the waters?

It's the accumulative effect of a number of things. This was ticking off voters (economy) this was ticking off voters (boarder) this and that was as well. The stuff you spoke of just added more of an aghast to their disgust of their whole party. But yes good numbers the woke stuff did upset a lot of people MORE than some Dems might care to believe. Important thing they'd be wise not to go down that road again.

 

[Laodicean60]

Trump-bad was actually a pretty good talking point, especially for turnout rather than flipping voters. It wasnt going to overcome the economic vibes tho. I agree they needed to be economy issue 1 out of the gate. I still doubt that would overcome the voters bad feelings tho. Compared to all this "woke" is a total sideshow.

I agree with you and those economic factors include immigration. Trump's bad was a good tactic because many on the left think Trump is a Nazi but the party didn't recognize that they were playing a worn out tune especially when people are struggling because people will gravitate to hope and ideology is thrown out the window.

As far as this woke, corporations have suffered because of this.

 

[RileyG]

It shocking to me that the groups obsessed with trans folk are not actually liberals.


Also I'm really digging that right wingers are convinced that every platform in their policy is being supported by the election result.

I'll wait to see poll results and research on the matter before I go scribing the loss to anyone one thing.

That's fair, they really aren't as common as one would think...

 

[RileyG]

“My message to the losers: losers look in the mirror,” Maher said during his opening monologue as his audience went silent. “No? Well, maybe you should. Well, that’s my feeling. Losers look in the mirror.”
“For months Democrats have been saying, ‘How is this even close?’ and they’re right, it wasn’t.” Maher added, “This country has had enough of the anti-common-sense woke ~ Bill Maher

WOW! Perhaps he has awoken to the woke!

I'm really surprised he said that.

 

[probinson]

Its the Rs that invoked woke stuff every second.

Yeah, that's just not true.

The transgender agenda is very much tied to Title IX because of the Biden administration RIGHT NOW. Schools that don't adopt the new language, which include not "discriminating" against men in women's sports and/or which restrooms and locker rooms they can use, ran the risk of losing federal funding. Our school board just had one of the highest attended meetings ever on this issue last month, and they voted down adopting the new language after listening to the concerns of countless parents, even though it could have meant losing funding. Now that Trump has been elected, I can all but guarantee any of those provisions related to the transgender agenda will be removed from Title IX, which has people in our community breathing a collective sigh of relief that federal funding of our public school is no longer in jeopardy.

Democrats need to realize that pandering to a wildly unpopular transgender agenda was absolutely a driver of votes. Rs didn't "invoke" that "woke stuff". Democrats implemented it and tied their identity to it, and decided that schools who dared to say that men shouldn't be in women's locker rooms would be at risk of losing funding. That's absolutely off-the-wall insane.

I agree that the economy was a very big driving factor behind votes, likely the primary driver, but Ds are only fooling themselves if they think that this "woke stuff" wasn't also a factor.

 

[durangodawood]

.....and decided that schools who dared to say that men shouldn't be in women's locker rooms would be at risk of losing funding.....

Was that really the admin policy?

I agree that the economy was a very big driving factor behind votes, likely the primary driver, but Ds are only fooling themselves if they think that this "woke stuff" wasn't also a factor.

I agree the woke stuff hurt - a bit. And for sure Ds should self examine on this.

But when its time to look in the mirror woke isnt the first thing they should see, as Maher etc looove to focus on. Really..... Its the economy, stupid. Good economic feels and we probably wouldnt be having this discussion.

 

[probinson]

Was that really the admin policy?

Yes.

Biden also partially expanded LGBTQ+ protections for students by defining discrimination to explicitly include sexual orientation, gender identity, sex characteristics — including intersex traits — and sex stereotypes.​

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As Biden’s Title IX regulations face lawsuits, Yale remains bound by Trump-era policies ​

A transgender student not permitted to participate in a sport in the gender in which they identified could potentially be seen as "discrimination" under Biden's Title IX revisions. That will definitely be changed in a Trump administration.

I agree the woke stuff hurt - a bit. And for sure Ds should self examine on this.

I think it hurt more they than realize. Time will tell, but I can tell you that in speaking with many of my independent friends, the "woke stuff" was very much at the forefront of their minds when they cast their vote. As Maher said, "This country has had enough of the anti-common-sense woke." I believe that is spot-on. Heck, even my Democrat, liberal friends have said to me that they feel the social issues have dragged the party down. But how do they backpedal now? Having become the party that supports the "anti-common-sense-woke", how do you now back away from that without seeming hypocritical and/or discriminatory?

But when its time to look in the mirror woke isnt the first thing they should see, as Maher etc looove to focus on. Really..... Its the economy, stupid. Good economic feels and we probably wouldnt be having this discussion.

Certainly the economy is what drives voters. I just think there's a lot more to it than that in this election cycle. Of course, Ds are free to continue their social justice campaign. I just think that there are enough people out there sounding the alarm that they really should back up and assess where people are at, because they've gone down a "woke" rabbit hole that I believe is holding them down.

 

[durangodawood]

Yes.

Biden also partially expanded LGBTQ+ protections for students by defining discrimination to explicitly include sexual orientation, gender identity, sex characteristics — including intersex traits — and sex stereotypes.​

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As Biden’s Title IX regulations face lawsuits, Yale remains bound by Trump-era policies ​

A transgender student not permitted to participate in a sport in the gender in which they identified could potentially be seen as "discrimination" under Biden's Title IX revisions. That will definitely be changed in a Trump administration.

In the article

The Biden administration initially also intended to introduce a policy prohibiting schools from implementing blanket bans on transgender athletes, but that provision was temporarily delayed and not included in the final Title IX rulings.

So, as the final decision on this to date, schools can do a blanket trans athlete ban. I dont see how that squares with your initial claim.

 

[probinson]

In the article

The Biden administration initially also intended to introduce a policy prohibiting schools from implementing blanket bans on transgender athletes, but that provision was temporarily delayed and not included in the final Title IX rulings.

So, as the final decision on this to date, schools can do a blanket trans athlete ban. I dont see how that squares with your initial claim.

Title IX has been the subject of much legal hullabaloo, and it has become a political football.

From your link:

President Joe Biden’s administration has made it a priority to bolster the rights of trans students. Last year it proposed a separate federal rule that for the first time would extend Title IX rights to LGBTQ+ students, broadly protecting them from discrimination in education.​

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Here's another article on the topic.

Among the biggest changes is new recognition that Title IX protects LGBTQ students — a source of deep conflict with Republicans.​

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The 1972 law doesn’t directly address the issue, but the new rules clarify that Title IX also forbids discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity. LGBTQ students who face discrimination will be entitled to a response from their school under Title IX, and those failed by their schools can seek recourse from the federal government.​

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Biden's new Title IX rules protect LGBTQ students, but trans sports rule still on hold

The new rule makes “crystal clear that everyone can access schools that are safe, welcoming and that respect their rights,” Education Secretary Miguel Cardona said.

www.nbcnews.com

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So while you are correct that the amendment prohibiting an outright ban on transgender athletes was not codified, "discriminating" against someone because of their "gender identity" was added. I hope you can see how it's a short leap from boy who thinks he's a girl being "discriminated" against because he can't be on the girls basketball team and/or is made to use a different locker room which separates him from the team. This results in "recourse from the federal government", aka, the withholding of federal funding.

 

[Always in His Presence]

It shocking to me that the groups obsessed with trans folk are not actually liberals.


Also I'm really digging that right wingers are convinced that every platform in their policy is being supported by the election result.

I'll wait to see poll results and research on the matter before I go scribing the loss to anyone one thing.

It is shocking to me that you don’t know who Bill Maher is. And that he is not Republican

 

[durangodawood]

It is shocking to me that you don’t know who Bill Maher is. And that he is not Republican

He's quite anti Christian as I understand. Interesting to see the level of respect he's getting all of a sudden

Similar to Sam Harris, who I do listen to. Extremely anti Trump. Rejecting of Christianity to its core. And very critical of the "woke" extremes of the D's.

 

[ozso]

“My message to the losers: losers look in the mirror,” Maher said during his opening monologue as his audience went silent. “No? Well, maybe you should. Well, that’s my feeling. Losers look in the mirror.”
“For months Democrats have been saying, ‘How is this even close?’ and they’re right, it wasn’t.” Maher added, “This country has had enough of the anti-common-sense woke ~ Bill Maher

WOW! Perhaps he has awoken to the woke!

He's not a conservative. He's not a Republican. He's definitely not a Trump supporter.

He's just very aware of how far off the rails the left has gotten.