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Since this falsehood/historical revisionism has been cropping up numerous times and Rep. Taylor Greene repeated it in the House chambers last week, let's try putting this baby to bed at least in this section of CF. It's been almost 3 years. It's time to stop with the nonsense.
1. The most important point is that Vice Presidents have very little control over money outside of their own office. Spending is authorized by congress and controlled (mostly) by the President. Even if VP Biden wanted to shake down the Ukrainians for personal gain, he didn't have he power to do so
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2. The United States had an ongoing policy that Ukraine (which like many post-Soviet, former SSRs was suffering from severe corruption issues) needed to clean up it's act before the U.S. would invest in closer ties, especially military ties. President Obama put that policy into action by demanding that Shokin be removed and replaced with a prosecutor who actually would investigate and go after corruption. He dispatched then VP Biden on a diplomatic mission to deliver the message.
2. a. There were eight U.S. Senators who actively were calling for Shokin's removal in 2016 - three of them, Ron Johnson, Rob Portman and Mark Kirk are Republicans. If Biden only wanted Shokin gone to protect Hunter, why did 3 Republican Senators sign a letter stating he needed to go?
3. The desire to see Shokin removed was internal (Ukrainians had been protesting outside his house), European the EU wanted him gone, individual countries like the British wanted him gone, international (both DoD and State said he need to go), and multi-national (NATO and IMF wanted him removed. The suggestion that the decision was solely Joe Biden and solely for the purpose of protecting Hunter simply cannot withstand scrutiny.
4. The reason the infamous Council on Foreign Relations video is usually shown in a truncated version is to remove context and to count on the ignorance and/or trust of the intended audience.
Here are some fact checks. Please address the content rathe than talk about the sources.
www.factcheck.org
1. The most important point is that Vice Presidents have very little control over money outside of their own office. Spending is authorized by congress and controlled (mostly) by the President. Even if VP Biden wanted to shake down the Ukrainians for personal gain, he didn't have he power to do so
.
2. The United States had an ongoing policy that Ukraine (which like many post-Soviet, former SSRs was suffering from severe corruption issues) needed to clean up it's act before the U.S. would invest in closer ties, especially military ties. President Obama put that policy into action by demanding that Shokin be removed and replaced with a prosecutor who actually would investigate and go after corruption. He dispatched then VP Biden on a diplomatic mission to deliver the message.
2. a. There were eight U.S. Senators who actively were calling for Shokin's removal in 2016 - three of them, Ron Johnson, Rob Portman and Mark Kirk are Republicans. If Biden only wanted Shokin gone to protect Hunter, why did 3 Republican Senators sign a letter stating he needed to go?
3. The desire to see Shokin removed was internal (Ukrainians had been protesting outside his house), European the EU wanted him gone, individual countries like the British wanted him gone, international (both DoD and State said he need to go), and multi-national (NATO and IMF wanted him removed. The suggestion that the decision was solely Joe Biden and solely for the purpose of protecting Hunter simply cannot withstand scrutiny.
4. The reason the infamous Council on Foreign Relations video is usually shown in a truncated version is to remove context and to count on the ignorance and/or trust of the intended audience.
Here are some fact checks. Please address the content rathe than talk about the sources.
Trump Revives False Narrative on Biden and Ukraine - FactCheck.org
At a campaign rally in Iowa, President Trump cited an unsubstantiated news report to revive a widely debunked false narrative about Joe Biden's work in Ukraine on behalf of the Obama administration.
www.factcheck.org
Fact check: Biden leveraged $1B in aid to Ukraine to oust corrupt prosecutor, not to help his son
Despite a Senate GOP investigation that found no wrongdoing by Joe Biden on foreign policy in Ukraine, claims to the contrary continue to circulate.
www.usatoday.com
