Julie Green--who is she?

[RandyPNW]

Here in the US I've held out a lot of hope with the Trump presidency, and then all Hell broke loose. I thought, due to some prophecy, that Trump would win a 2nd term, triumphing over the forces that were unrighteously opposed to him. However, he lost, and I lost faith in the so-called "prophets." Others encouraged me that Trump could still win a 2nd term. And strangely, a whole thing started about whether Biden had truly, legitimately won the White House.

And over the last couple of years real hope has built that Biden would be taken down, or that Trump could win a 2nd term. But the forces against him just kept coming, in the most wicked, devious style ever.

None of this is, however, purely political. Trump has promised to represent the Christian cause, and has not deviated from it. And the Democrats, along with Biden, have gotten ever more antichristian.

Then I came upon this prophetess, Julie Green, and naturally I was skeptical. But she sounds like she's speaking right out of my own Christian heart. Let me know what you think if you wish to take the time. Or, if you know something about her, let me know. There doesn't seem to be much about her when I did a quick search, though it may be there. Here is one of her latest youtube videos (don't get thrown off by the imperfect text rendering)...

 

[joeLightening]

Hello. I listened to her prophecy, except for a minute when I walked out the room to get some coffee. She is deeply troubled. She needs our Lord to strengthen her and heal her of many troubles. Oh Lord, please help this lady. Please give her strength and peace. Thank you our Lord.

 

[RandyPNW]

Hello. I listened to her prophecy, except for a minute when I walked out the room to get some coffee. She is deeply troubled. She needs our Lord to strengthen her and heal her of many troubles. Oh Lord, please help this lady. Please give her strength and peace. Thank you our Lord.

I don't see the trouble. She's happily married, the daughter of a preacher, and has 3 sons--about 50 years old. She's apparently raised up in Faith teaching, but seems concerned about the state of the Church in America.

I've since done a little research, and discovered that some of her prophecies seem a little crazy. However, the gist of her thoughts seem inspired, and there is some reality to what she's saying.

For example, in saying a politician will die last year, he may not have actually died. But his influence, once strong, came to an end. He "died" politically. Etc. etc. I'd have to investigate further.

 

[joeLightening]

Oh sorry, I did not see the whole loving and happy family. I watched the prophecy part and immediately recognized the problem. Because of love in me, I know she needs help only God can give her. We are to be one body. The strong must help the weak.

 

[RandyPNW]

Oh sorry, I did not see the whole loving and happy family. I watched the prophecy part and immediately recognized the problem. Because of love in me, I know she needs help only God can give her. We are to be one body. The strong must help the weak.

OH, I see. You're the "strong one?"

 

[Maria Billingsley]

OH, I see. You're the "strong one?"

Yes. Discernment is lacking among those who say they are Christian. They are lost by false teaching and false prophets. Jesus Christ of Nazareth warned us about this. So yes, the strong need to help the weak in faith.
Blessings.

 

[RandyPNW]

Yes. Discernment is lacking among those who say they are Christian. They are lost by false teaching and false prophets. Jesus Christ of Nazareth warned us about this. So yes, the strong need to help the weak in faith.
Blessings.

Let those who think they stand beware lest they fall.

Luke 22.31 “Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. 32 But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”
33 But he replied, “Lord, I am ready to go with you to prison and to death.”
34 Jesus answered, “I tell you, Peter, before the rooster crows today, you will deny three times that you know me.”

 

[claninja]

Here in the US I've held out a lot of hope with the Trump presidency, and then all Hell broke loose. I thought, due to some prophecy, that Trump would win a 2nd term, triumphing over the forces that were unrighteously opposed to him. However, he lost, and I lost faith in the so-called "prophets." Others encouraged me that Trump could still win a 2nd term. And strangely, a whole thing started about whether Biden had truly, legitimately won the White House.

And over the last couple of years real hope has built that Biden would be taken down, or that Trump could win a 2nd term. But the forces against him just kept coming, in the most wicked, devious style ever.

None of this is, however, purely political. Trump has promised to represent the Christian cause, and has not deviated from it. And the Democrats, along with Biden, have gotten ever more antichristian.

Then I came upon this prophetess, Julie Green, and naturally I was skeptical. But she sounds like she's speaking right out of my own Christian heart. Let me know what you think if you wish to take the time. Or, if you know something about her, let me know. There doesn't seem to be much about her when I did a quick search, though it may be there. Here is one of her latest youtube videos (don't get thrown off by the imperfect text rendering)...

Julie Green is a Christian nationalist who has made several bizarre political predictions that never came to pass.

2 examples:

she predicted King Charles would never wear the crown. - he was crowned, so that failed.

She also predicted Hershel walker would win his political race - he lost, so that also failed.


Therefore, I would rate her a false prophet.

 

[RandyPNW]

Julie Green is a Christian nationalist who has made several bizarre political predictions that never came to pass.

2 examples:

she predicted King Charles would never wear the crown. - he was crowned, so that failed.

She also predicted Hershel walker would win his political race - he lost, so that also failed.


Therefore, I would rate her a false prophet.

Thanks for your input.

 

[OldAbramBrown]

Before I check her out, many different things could be going on.

Some have been known to see their main chance by coattailing on a specific politician or ideology.

Some of the (possibly) prophetic sort of souls speak in oblique metaphors and we'll only figure out any sense (if we ever do and if there was any), well after the event.

Others expressly explain that they "don't know what they are talking about" and just ask us to redouble our general supplications because we may gain insights into issues they don't know about, as we go on. Some may fumble and fluff occasionally but apologise and clarify what they are not saying.

Any way we look at it, our response must be to redouble our general supplications (Dan 9: 3-21).

A red flag surely is if we construe reference to specific individuals or claimed ideological blocs as asking us to place our trust in those and not Christ for providence.

We have similar bunches of young fogeys and their pretend opponents in Britain too (equally as nihilistic as each other), crowding out the few sane minds.

It's especially about what God would have wanted for our countries if we had only supplicated (Dan 9: 3-21)

It's common sense that "voting machines", electoral colleges, strange "counting" methods and reducing polling locations cause loss of public confidence.

 

[RandyPNW]

Before I check her out, many different things could be going on.

Some have been known to see their main chance by coattailing on a specific politician or ideology.

Some of the (possibly) prophetic sort of souls speak in oblique metaphors and we'll only figure out any sense (if we ever do and if there was any), well after the event.

Others expressly explain that they "don't know what they are talking about" and just ask us to redouble our general supplications because we may gain insights into issues they don't know about, as we go on. Some may fumble and fluff occasionally but apologise and clarify what they are not saying.

Any way we look at it, our response must be to redouble our general supplications (Dan 9: 3-21).

A red flag surely is if we construe reference to specific individuals or claimed ideological blocs as asking us to place our trust in those and not Christ for providence.

We have similar bunches of young fogeys and their pretend opponents in Britain too (equally as nihilistic as each other), crowding out the few sane minds.

It's especially about what God would have wanted for our countries if we had only supplicated (Dan 9: 3-21)

It's common sense that "voting machines", electoral colleges, strange "counting" methods and reducing polling locations cause loss of public confidence.

The question is, Is God speaking through these "voices," whether they have political ramifications or not? I personally think God *is* in fact speaking through Christian voices, whether "prophets" or not, because God has a stake in our government representatives and in how they impact the morality of the people.

For example, God would certainly have spoken through a Bonhoeffer against Hitler even if Bonhoeffer was put to death for sedition. I cannot say that Bonhoeffer was in perfect conformity with God's will, being that he failed in attacking Hitler. But I can certainly say he was a saintly man, having the German people at the heart of his concerns.

I don't like any "sneaky" so-called "prophet" who utilizes tactics that are used by "palm readers" or those who author horoscopes. If they are ambiguous like Nostradamus, how do they help anybody except give them the vague belief that they can figure out the puzzles of the universe?

True prophets carry true moral and spiritual burdens, and Julie Green seems to carry these, regardless of how accurate her prophecies are. I don't think the tag "False Prophets" was ever meant to apply to good Christians who have an errant theology or who make mistakes. I think it applied, properly, to those who utilized their prophecies to drag people away from the one true God and from His moral codes.

 

[Bobber]

Here in the US I've held out a lot of hope with the Trump presidency, and then all Hell broke loose. I thought, due to some prophecy, that Trump would win a 2nd term, triumphing over the forces that were unrighteously opposed to him. However, he lost, and I lost faith in the so-called "prophets."

I see no reason why ones can't say to begin with I think I've heard from God on something....I feel in my spirit he is saying this or that but I could be wrong. If it ends up you are wrong at least you were humble about it and people can take your wrong a lot easier.

And over the last couple of years real hope has built that Biden would be taken down, or that Trump could win a 2nd term.

I actually had my doubts he would still be President now but not because of anything spiritual or some insight. I just wondered if he would have the stamina for it and maybe he would resign. Well I was wrong on that. Another term after this? I just can't see it but what do I know.

 

[Bobber]

Then I came upon this prophetess, Julie Green, and naturally I was skeptical. But she sounds like she's speaking right out of my own Christian heart. Let me know what you think if you wish to take the time. Or, if you know something about her, let me know. There doesn't seem to be much about her when I did a quick search, though it may be there.

I just wonder if there's way too much focusing on changing a nation by politicians and getting so distraught when it doesn't happen. I wonder if people put the main focus on getting people born again, and to become a partaker of the divine nature if that would change some of the national morality being better that people would like to see. It seems to me when you try to change the way things are without dealing with the heart of the problem all you do is enter into futility.

 

[RandyPNW]

I see no reason why ones can't say to begin with I think I've heard from God on something....I feel in my spirit he is saying this or that but I could be wrong. If it ends up you are wrong at least you were humble about it and people can take your wrong a lot easier.


I actually had my doubts he would still be President now but not because of anything spiritual or some insight. I just wondered if he would have the stamina for it and maybe he would resign. Well I was wrong on that. Another term after this? I just can't see it but what do I know.

I like your humble answers. I agree--I don't claim to know everything. And I do wish so-called "prophets" would distinguish between what God definitively says and what they *think* God is saying!!

The original prophet I heard from, Kim Clement, who was criticized for having both true and false prophecies, could, however, be right. He said that Trump would have 2 terms, and that really looks like a possibility right now.

If that happens, it will save the day for the "prophets!" Well, it would save the day for those who promised 2 terms for Trump, but not consecutively! And if they promised a win in 2021, they're still losers!

 

[Bobber]

I like your humble answers. I agree--I don't claim to know everything. And I do wish so-called "prophets" would distinguish between what God definitively says and what they *think* God is saying!!

And I see no problem with them saying with almost everything look I believe I've heard from God but there's always a possibility I haven't and to say that from the start. It just makes it so much easier for those who put so much faith in them to keep things in perspective and not become so disappointed or disillusioned. They would say the man or woman of God has been upfront with me and I appreciate it.

The original prophet I heard from, Kim Clement, who was criticized for having both true and false prophecies, could, however, be right. He said that Trump would have 2 terms, and that really looks like a possibility right now.

After the last election I wouldn't know what to think.

If that happens, it will save the day for the "prophets!" Well, it would save the day for those who promised 2 terms for Trump, but not consecutively!

I think though the real feel of what they were saying is that Trump was going to win the last election, that is be in office.

And if they promised a win in 2021, they're still losers!

Here's the thing...I don't like to consider such brethren or if they're ladies losers. If they're genuine brothers and sister in the Lord I still consider them on the same team as I. I'd have a position look friends let's just seek to be more Intune in coming days.....we all can make mistakes but let's not make predictions just for any reason we think we should. If ministry A or B is doing so just don't think you have to though. Make sure it's coming from the heart of God. At least that's something we all need to strive for.

 

[RandyPNW]

And I see no problem with them saying with almost everything look I believe I've heard from God but there's always a possibility I haven't and to say that from the start. It just makes it so much easier for those who put so much faith in them to keep things in perspective and not become so disappointed or disillusioned. They would say the man or woman of God has been upfront with me and I appreciate it.

After the last election I wouldn't know what to think.

I think though the real feel of what they were saying is that Trump was going to win the last election, that is be in office.

Here's the thing...I don't like to consider such brethren or if they're ladies losers. If they're genuine brothers and sister in the Lord I still consider them on the same team as I. I'd have a position look friends let's just seek to be more Intune in coming days.....we all can make mistakes but let's not make predictions just for any reason we think we should. If ministry A or B is doing so just don't think you have to though. Make sure it's coming from the heart of God. At least that's something we all need to strive for.

Yes, my problem is that I'm born Lutheran converted to Pentecostal also known as a Charismatic. And these are the ones who adopted the Pentecostal belief that all Christians should speak in tongues and have available to them all of the gifts, including prophecy. It is even taught that Christians should exercise their faith to practice prophesying.

So therein lies the problem, and I don't agree with that doctrine. Tongues was never taught as something all Christians have, though it is encouraged among those who have the gift. Paul said several prophets could speak in a church, but should be mulled over and considered by the rest of a church body. So there is some oversight of this gift.

I agree with you that this shouldn't be a matter of "who is a brother and who isn't." Rather, it's a matter of whether we're hearing from God and being honest about it, or being willing to scrutinize ourselves and our pride, as well. So maybe this is doctrinal error that is becoming problematic in the church. I just wouldn't go in the opposite direction and consign all supernatural gifts to the trash heap.

Thanks for some pretty reasonable comments. Good spirit.

 

[Bobber]

Thanks for some pretty reasonable comments. Good spirit.

Same from you too.

 

[OldAbramBrown]

I just wonder if there's way too much focusing on changing a nation by politicians and getting so distraught when it doesn't happen. I wonder if people put the main focus on getting people born again, and to become a partaker of the divine nature if that would change some of the national morality being better that people would like to see. It seems to me when you try to change the way things are without dealing with the heart of the problem all you do is enter into futility.

And simultaneously: on supplicating. Dan 9: 3-21

 

[David Kent]

One false prophecy makes a false prophet.

Deuteronomy 1I:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

 

[RandyPNW]

One false prophecy makes a false prophet.

Deuteronomy 1I:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

That's true, and how I've long felt. However, I am reconsidering how I view this in light of the multitude of respected evangelists who have engaged in prophecy that have not come to pass precisely as they said. I think perhaps this is the product of Christians who believed they *should be prophesying* based on a bad view of biblical passages they were led to believe in a particular way.

In my denomination, the AoG, typical Pentecostal theology would have me to believe that each individual has available to him *all of the gifts of the Spirit," including prophecy, and is encouraged to practice it. (I don't agree, BTW.) Some denominations have believed that preaching alone is on a par with prophesying. And so, they think that whatever comes into their mind, when they have what they think are "godly thoughts," is prophetic.

Can you think of any examples of OT Prophets who under the Law gave false prophecy and were put to death? When this happened generally the False Prophet was in direct rebellion against God. And that isn't true of today's so-called "prophets."

We are told that nobody, speaking by the Spirit of God, can curse Jesus. This is true of today's so-called "prophets," who are genuine Christians and speak in the Spirit of the Lord, convey good burdens, and yet are not really prophesying, adding their own thoughts to true spiritual burdens. I think they should have their errors exposed so they stop putting their thoughts in the category of "prophecy." But they certainly should be able to express their moral concerns in the context of "inspired thoughts."

Paul said that leaders can prophecy each in turn, letting others judge and evaluate what is said. That, apparently, is *not* "false prophecy!" What do you think?