Is worrying a sin

[K2K]

A number of years ago, by brother told me that the pastor at his church preached a message that worring was a sin. So we had a conversation on it.

Certianly it seem like worrying to the point of getting stressed and such, must be a sin. But what about a concern for doing the right thing. That can't be a sin can it. So then at what point does it all change. Isn't worrying the same thing and being concerned but with greater stress on concern?

 

[freezerman2000]

Worry in it's self is not a sin,it's the ways some people try to alleviate it.
Example-worrying about finances,not a sin.Trying to alleviate the worry by robbing someone else of their money is.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

anything that doesn't come from trusting God is a sin (Romans 14:23)

 

[K2K]

Worry in it's self is not a sin,it's the ways some people try to alleviate it.
Example-worrying about finances,not a sin.Trying to alleviate the worry by robbing someone else of their money is.

Yeah - that was kind of like my thinking. It makes sense to me.

The problem is that I often find out the God's thoughts are not my thoughts, just like is written in the Scriptures.

I wondered what God would say about it, while my brother and I discussed what his pastor had preached. Did that pastor have a word from the Lord, or was he just leaning on his understanding. This was what my brother and I discussed. Surely being concerned was right, so long as a person didn't go overboard, and like rob a bank, or hurt someone else. Of course we can hurt ourselves physically if we get too concerned (worried).

 

[FoundInGrace]

double post

 

[FoundInGrace]

Worry can be trusting in ourselves not God, which is sin.

Philippians 4:6
Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.

1 Peter 5:7
Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you.

If we dont take it to God and try and deal with it with Him then I think it is not trusting Him so it can be idolatry because we are going to something else for help and peace not God.

 

[Always in His Presence]

If it is not from faith, it is sin.

Can you have anxiety over something and say you trust God?

 

[Etheri]

My opinion is no.

 

[K2K]

Worry can be trusting in ourselves not God, which is sin.

Philippians 4:6
Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.

1 Peter 5:7
Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you.

If we dont take it to God and try and deal with it with Him then I think it is not trusting Him so it can be idolatry because we are going to something else for help and peace not God.

Yeah - this is what I found out!

After I talked to with my brother about the issue and was driving down the road, I started talking to God about it and giving Him my thoughts on the issue. I finally got around to asking Him to tell me. Was worrying a sin God? I usually get an answer right away, but if I too emotional about something, it is hard to hear His answer. I think I was getting too emotional, and stuck to my thinking. Still, I know He will get me the answer I want.

That night I was meeting with the intercessors, which was really only three of us, because it was a small church. Mike, Tony, and myself started praying and interceeding for the ministries in the church, then suddenly Mike, who lead the intercession stop... looked at me... and said, "Karl, the Lord says worrying is a sin."

Ha - God is so funny! He stop our intercession right in the middle, just to have Mike tell me worrying is a sin. By the way, Mike had no idea about my conversation with my brother or God earlier that day.

Of course on the way home, a bit calmer and having an answer clearly from God, I was able to pick up His voice and get an explaination of the issue. Essentially the explaination was:

Worry can be trusting in ourselves not God, which is sin.

Philippians 4:6
Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.

1 Peter 5:7
Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you.

If we dont take it to God and try and deal with it with Him then I think it is not trusting Him so it can be idolatry because we are going to something else for help and peace not God.

Thanks FoundInGrace - We have our thinking. It of course makes sense to us. And then God has His thinking, and it is better than ours. The only realy way to find out what His thinking is, is to take your questions to Him. We people can read the Bible and still not grasp it's meaning without Him

 

[Missyjojo88]

Yeah, I also get the feeling that worrying too much offends God, from what I pick up from my relationship with him. Its like God is saying, " Why don't you come to me with your burdens instead of keeping it to yourself?" I actually believe that it makes us look crazy before God because we can go to him for the answers, but we don't trust him enough to give us the answer to our problems. I feel this offends God because I tend to worry a lot, and I can sense in my spirit God being offended. I can see how this can be connected to trusting in one self, rather than God.

 

[lismore]

A number of years ago, by brother told me that the pastor at his church preached a message that worring was a sin.

If the pastors message caused people to worry about their worrying being a sin, was the message a sin in itself?

 

[vitaminC]

If the pastors message caused people to worry about their worrying being a sin, was the message a sin in itself?

One sin leads to another. That is why it is so important to repent when God shows us something that we are doing wrong.

 

[The Unforgettable Fire]

A number of years ago, by brother told me that the pastor at his church preached a message that worring was a sin. So we had a conversation on it.

Certianly it seem like worrying to the point of getting stressed and such, must be a sin. But what about a concern for doing the right thing. That can't be a sin can it. So then at what point does it all change. Isn't worrying the same thing and being concerned but with greater stress on concern?

Caring concern is a good thing. When it crosses over out of the realm of trusting faith though, it becomes a destructive thing.

Above all we must trust God. If I care about someone and am concerned about them it doesn't mean I am not trusting God with their life, it is just an expression of love. When I begin to make the problem bigger than God however, then I have crossed over out of faith into arrogance and doubt.

 

[shywaffles]

Worrying is not a sin.

 

[Ark100]

A number of years ago, by brother told me that the pastor at his church preached a message that worring was a sin. So we had a conversation on it.

Certianly it seem like worrying to the point of getting stressed and such, must be a sin. But what about a concern for doing the right thing. That can't be a sin can it. So then at what point does it all change. Isn't worrying the same thing and being concerned but with greater stress on concern?

Worrying is certainly not a sin but it does not help your circumstances is why Christ says not to worry. Worry can do damage to one's health, mental state or whatever else but it is absolutely not a sin.
However its pointless worrying. What will be will be. Worry changes nothing except give you mind problems, so its best to not feed your mind with it.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

If the pastors message caused people to worry about their worrying being a sin, was the message a sin in itself?

yes theology can be sin .

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Worrying is not a sin.

the most simplistic way i've seen the bible describe sin is in what harms others . worrying and anxiety has been identified by doctors as a leading cause of illness . so in the sense that it makes people ill and causes harm to their bodies and emotional state .. yes . it is a sin .

 

[Optimax]

A number of years ago, by brother told me that the pastor at his church preached a message that worring was a sin. So we had a conversation on it.

Certianly it seem like worrying to the point of getting stressed and such, must be a sin. But what about a concern for doing the right thing. That can't be a sin can it. So then at what point does it all change. Isn't worrying the same thing and being concerned but with greater stress on concern?

When one is confronted with a "problem", part of getting to the solution is the concern of it.

Concern is simply acknowledging the issue and considering of a proper solution.

Part of that concern hopefully being asking God for wisdom regarding the issue.

If a solution is not found and one finds themselves starting with the issue, thinking about possible solutions and dismissing them as unacceptable, winding up starting with the issue again.

Going over the same possible solutions one by one dismissing each again as unacceptable.

Starting with the issue again, going over the same possible solutions one by one dismissing each again as unacceptable.

One is entering into worry.

Concern is ok.

When one enters the "circle" of worry just described then one needs to recognize that they have entered into worry.

Worry is "full grown" when one begins speaking the worry out of the abundance of their heart.

It is past time to cast that care over on the Lord and with patience wait on Him for the solution.

 

[K2K]

If the pastors message caused people to worry about their worrying being a sin, was the message a sin in itself?

HUMMM????

PERHAPS WE ARE WORRYING TOO MUCH ABOUT THE MESSAGE THEN???

 

[K2K]

yes theology can be sin .

OK - theology is the study of God

And the Bible has information about God

So, reading your Bible is a sin???


It is written that all unrighteosness is sin. The first words I heard from were, "Read Your Bible." But He has never told me to worry about something. Thought He has often told me to stop worrying about something. I have never heard Him tell me to stop learning more about Him. Though I have had Him tell me that no matter how much I learn about Him I can never full understand the depts of God.

I know that I am really try telling people to listen to God. Others sometimes take that to mean I am against theologians. How can studying about God be a sin. How can we be against that, even tongue and cheek? But if we do want to know more about God, why don't we spend more time just talking to Him?

He asked me to start this thread yesterday. I had already gone over the question with Him, as was explained in the above posts. But if you missed it, this thread is not really about worrying, it is about taking our questions and our thoughts to God.

Look - My brothers pastor had a message. My brother and I had questions about the message. We talked it over and couldn't decide if the pastor was right or wrong. So I took the pastors message to the Lord and asked Him about it. Then He stop intercession just to give me the answer from some who had no idea that I had asked God for the answer.

So this thread is about taking our thoughts, question, and ideas (our worries) to God to get answers.

It's not really about whether we have worries. We have sin in our life. That is the battle. The important thing is that we seek God for advice in all things, including and especially our study of Him (our Theology).


Rm 7:15 For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do but I am doing the very thing I hate.

The above verse could apply to a number of things. For me it most often seems to apply to my worrying about things. I don't want to worry about things, but do I have enough money, can I get my work done on-time, and I just don't know if this is going right>

Rm 7:30 But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.