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Absolutely. Just refer to the last 257 threads about masturbation.Saved_from_flames said:
Jim B said:
do you really want to hear any ones thoughts?? didn't you start this same topic on 3-4 other areas on this forumon fire 4 christ said:
Should this really be in the Charismatic forum? Anyhow, this isn't the easiest of questions to answer. Most of the common arguments for and against the practice are specious, often involving a lot of question begging and dubious theology. Apart from the fact that there are no clear scriptural references either permitting or prohibiting masturbation, what makes it particularly difficult for Christians to discuss this phenomena is some of the unbiblical assumptions which we bring to bear upon the discussion. Though we may not care to admit it, the Church's historical disconnection from its Jewish roots left it vulnerable to false teaching. Platonic dualism, for instance, has taught us that the body is evil, that physical pleasure is bad and that sex is shameful. No one usually says that in quite so many words, but the influence of Platonic thought still permeates much Christian thinking at both the conscious and subconscious level. Consequently, many of the arguments which are brought against masturbation are arguably built upon a Greek rather than a Hebrew mindset - they are often invalid. As for the other arguments, we cannot help wondering whether they might be tainted too. After all, philosophy is like leven which permeates the whole lump of dough. Even if we have become aware of the erroneous ideas we picked up from the Greek philosophers, the chances are those assumptions are still influencing our thought processes.
Are they human? Just kidding..sort of. I believe that if you are a married person, there should be no reason for self gratification. Doesn't matter if you are a tongue talkin' Charismatic or whatever a person is, we are all human, with human cravings of the flesh. Paul did say that it is better to marry, then to burn, so if you aren't married, I don't see anything wrong with it, in moderation. Also, I think that taking a vow of celabacy is what led the "other religion" to do what they did. Marriage might have remedied the problems. The "burning" caught up with them eventually.Jim B said:Do Charismatics touch?
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If people want to discuss masturbation in relation to demonisation and the work of deliverance ministries, I suppose it makes sense to start a 'Charismatic' thread on the subject. But I can't help noting that there are other areas of ChristianForums for discussing these sorts of issues - if we are going to discuss anything in any of the forums, we might as well not bother to have separate categories at all. So unless the thread has a 'charismatic' dimension, why discuss it in the Charismatic forum?Jim B said:Do Charismatics touch?
Theophilus7 said:
I 'spose 'cause the person wanted to. Charasmatic's do tend to give a lot of thought to their thoughts though, so what one might answer elsewhere might be more Charasmatic in thought here 
Yes, if it went to the other forum that discusses these type of questions, it could end up in the "fleshly" realm, lol. I have read their posts, and immediately backed out of it. I think this can be discussed here with maturity, and in a "Spiritually" based manner. I don't know how much of a debate one can get out of this subject, as alot of Pentecostal/Charismatics find it uncomfortable to discuss.Quaffer said:
I was sorta kinda responding tongue in cheek, still thinking of JimB's asking if Charasmatic's touch.By His Grace said:
Interesting point. I would however beg to differ, we are all adults and I have read some of the debate regarding this topic in other forums and although at times they tend to get a little heated I think their very interesting and straight to the point. I'm not so sure us Charasmatics are so openminded when it comes to debating certain issues. Personally I think we have this tendancy to come across with this super spiritual persective on things that really do not require some deep theological debate but rather an honest straightforward answer.
