Is Oral sex and touching a sin?

[Galatians777]

Hi,

I'm writing this post because I am wondering if oral sex and touching is a sin before marriage?

We know that being sexually immoral is a sin, but what is sexually immoral and whats not? I looked up the original greek word used for sexual immoral at crosswalk.com and the word in greek is called "porneia". The definition for the word mentions things like "adultery, homosexuality, intercourse with animals, relatives..." but doesnt really define oral sex or touching.

Ok I know what you are saying "in Matthew 5:2-7 Jesus says "you shouldn't look at a women lustfully or you commited adultery with her already in your heart." There are 2 things I want to mention when looking at this passage though. First is, to commit adultery dont you need to be married first? And second, what if it isnt lustfully? If you only do it once and awhile and the craving doesnt control you.

So besides hearing from a church as a guideline when dating not to have oral sex or touching before marriage, can anyone show me in the bible that these acts are told as a sin before marraige?

Also I know that I will get replies like "you should have control before marriage" or "you shouldnt waste yourself on someone not your wife/husband" and "keep yourself as a temple of God". I know all of those things can be interpreted to say that oral sex and touching is wrong before marriage, but can anyone clearly give me an answer from the bible that states these acts as sin? And if there isnt, could a christian do those things before marriage? I know saying "yes" wouldnt feel normal for most christians, but I'm just talking about it being a sin or not. So please if you are going to reply can you give a passage or verse that explains what you think about this question.

Your brother in Him,

Nick

 

[madison1101]

What is the goal of oral sex? [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. Sexual fulfillment. That pleasure is meant to be reserved for your future spouse.

Phillippians 4
" 8Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."

Can you honestly say that having oral sex with someone outside of marriage is noble, or right, or pure, or lovely, or admirable? Does it honor and glorify the Lord in any way shape and form?

Sexual purity is refraining from ALL sexually immoral behavior.

 

[Galatians777]

OK I see your point madison. But you could say alot of things arnt noble, pure, right...like watching tv or eating fast food. Those things dont also glorify the Lord in any shape or form, but we do those things cause they feel good. So should we stop watching tv or eating fast food even if its not that often? Like you could generalize alot of things to fall in the catagory of that verse, not just oral sex.

 

[talitha]

Very good, madison.

I believe that if you are asking how much you can get away with and not be sinning, you're already in trouble. We should be asking how we can keep one another pure.

This scripture comes to mind:

A garden locked is my sister, my bride,
a garden locked, a fountain sealed. (Song of Solomon 4:12)

bless you
tal

 

[snoochface]

It sounds like you are being convicted of this already by the holy spirit. You start running into trouble when you begin trying to justify why it might be okay. If you have to ask, and you begin scouring the Bible for verses that might give you permission, then something is nagging at you and saying it's not okay - which probably means that it is not okay, at least not for you.

If you can do something knowing that what you are doing is not only glorifying God, but would also be okay in his eyes when you stand before him and account for your actions, then go ahead. But if you can't, it's best to avoid it.

 

[Slayton]

Ok so you admitted that lust was a sin right? Can you honestly tell me that while someone is receiving oral sex they are not thinking any lustful thoughts?
First let me tell you that odds are great you cant "only do it once" once you do it just becomes easier to keep doing it you might even become addicted in a way. I really cant give you anything specific from the bible but thats only because im fairly new to it, I do know it mentions several times to remain sexually pure and do not commit sexually immoral acts and I strongly believe that you are not sexually pure if you participate in oral sex, before marriage that is (some might debate its still wrong after but eh im not getting into that..)

 

[madison1101]

1 Corinthians 6

Sexual Immorality

12"Everything is permissible for me"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13"Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"—but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh."[b] 17But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit.

18Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.


There are many things that we are to have control of our bodies over, food, sex, leisure time, etc.

My thoughts are that if you can honestly look at the cross of Christ and see how He suffered to obtain your eternal pardon from all of your sins, and then go participate in oral sexual gratification, then I would question your relationship with Him in the first place. Is Christ your saviour? Are you more concerned about growing in Him, or getting into someone's pants? You can't do both at the same time.

 

[ub4me]

Gal 5:16[This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh
Gal 5:17For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would
Gal 5:19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness

NLT-When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, your lives will produce these evil results: sexual immorality, impure thoughts, eagerness for lustful pleasure,

NASB-Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality,

HNV-Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness



Gal 5:20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
1Jo 2:16For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world

 

[~Nikki~]

Well, Jesus said that looking at a woman lustfully is the same as committing adultery with her. And we all know that the Bible says we must not commit adultery.

And if adultery is sex outside the marriage bond, and fornication is sex BEFORE the marriage bond, then they're pretty much the same except that one's after marriage and one's before.

So if looking at a woman lustfully is the same as committing adultery (once married), then before marriage looking lustfully would be the same as fornication...

Make sense?

And the Bible says to "flee fornication".

 

[homewardbound]

Nick, it sounds like you're trying to trying to catch the bible on a technicality in order to justify doing something the Holy Spirit has already revealed to you as being inappropriate. I'm sure you could find many things the bible doesn't expressly forbid, yet sensible application of scripture would indicate are wrong.

If you believe that oral sex outside of marriage is a form of sexual immorality, then clearly the bible forbids it. But maybe you don't look at it that way...what then? Well, consider that apart from procreation, sex is a God-given gift that is intended to foster a deep level of intimacy between two people...a level of intimacy that realizes its true benefits only within a committed, marital relationship. I found myself in the very situation you describe when I was a young man, and I justified doing something I shouldn't have. It was a huge mistake.

 

[justjan]

Nick,

You are dating your sister in the Lord. Until you are ready to put a ring on her finger and make a vow before God to be husband to her as Christ is to the church, it is your responsibility to treat her like a sister.

No intercourse, no oral sex, no fondling. Physical intimacy is designed by God for a marriage relationship.