Is it a sin to admire and longingly look at and check out (for a man) a woman's beauty if...

Neogaia777 · Aug 22, 2016

Is it a sin to admire and longingly look at and check out (for a man) a woman's beauty, even her "parts" if your not "lusting" in your heart or in your "member" for her...?

Probably can create an opening for the temptation to lust, so may not be a good idea... But, admiring without lust a woman's glorious beauty, all her part's, not just T & A, but her hair, the way it's done, it's color, her eyes, her face, her shape and her form, her curves, her legs, wasn't woman created by God to admire?

Probably not a good idea in some settings, like church, but what about, at the beach, especially if your single... Not the feeling of lust, and maybe not even desire for, but simply admiration...

Some women like this, some do not, I can understand that they do not just and only want to be seen as beautiful for only the physical, but that is all that is initially presented to you, and there has to be some physical attraction, in the beginning especially when you first meet someone, right, then, only after that, can you figure out if your attracted to them, for other kinds of beauty...

Comments?

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I don't know if I should do this at all, or not? But, I am single, is it not right for me to look for a potential mate? I have to initially physically attracted before I can discover if there is even more than that...

God Bless!

timewerx · Aug 22, 2016

Neogaia777 said:
Is it a sin to admire and longingly look at and check out (for a man) a woman's beauty, even her "parts" if your not "lusting" in your heart or in your "member" for her...?

Probably can create an opening for the temptation to lust, so may not be a good idea... But, admiring without lust a woman's glorious beauty, all her part's, not just T & A, but her hair, the way it's done, it's color, her eyes, her face, her shape and her form, her curves, her legs, wasn't woman created by God to admire?

Even if it is not lust, it still gives an uneasy feeling to be looked at or stared upon.

I don't know if it applies to everyone but I always know if anyone is staring at me even beyond 90 degrees of my field of view. I would often turn my head slowly towards their direction so they would stop.

.Mikha'el. · Aug 22, 2016

Unto itself, I would say no. However, be discreet about it so as not to make the woman feel awkward.

MotherFirefly · Aug 23, 2016

There is a fine line between 'checking' and gawking. At least make an effort to start a conversation if you can't help yourself and get 'noticed'.

And for the love of all, don't start the conversation with 'dang gurlll'.

Citanul · Aug 23, 2016

MotherFirefly said:
And for the love of all, don't start the conversation with 'dang gurlll'.

So that's what I've being doing wrong all these years.

redblue22 · Aug 23, 2016

So I'm with the best looking girl, but I'm checking someone else out?

Boogeyman07 · Aug 23, 2016

Neogaia777 said:
Is it a sin to admire and longingly look at and check out (for a man) a woman's beauty, even her "parts" if your not "lusting" in your heart or in your "member" for her...?

Probably can create an opening for the temptation to lust, so may not be a good idea... But, admiring without lust a woman's glorious beauty, all her part's, not just T & A, but her hair, the way it's done, it's color, her eyes, her face, her shape and her form, her curves, her legs, wasn't woman created by God to admire?

Probably not a good idea in some settings, like church, but what about, at the beach, especially if your single... Not the feeling of lust, and maybe not even desire for, but simply admiration...

Some women like this, some do not, I can understand that they do not just and only want to be seen as beautiful for only the physical, but that is all that is initially presented to you, and there has to be some physical attraction, in the beginning especially when you first meet someone, right, then, only after that, can you figure out if your attracted to them, for other kinds of beauty...

Comments?

Help?

I don't know if I should do this at all, or not? But, I am single, is it not right for me to look for a potential mate? I have to initially physically attracted before I can discover if there is even more than that...

God Bless!

Why is church not a good setting? That right there should tell you to be cautious of whatever it is your doing. But anyway, sounds like you know the answer, you can only dance around the issue for so long. Sure, admiration is a fine thing, sounds like what you're talking about is taking it too far though... Even if it at the very most it's just opening some doors to a few battles of temptation that you are victorious over, why go there? Not to mention, it'd be wise to think about others around you. What if a young kid is watching you watch her, probly not the best example huh? They get enough of that negative influence almost every minute of their young lives in most cases. Doesn't even have to be a kid..brother/sister/stranger who is battling, idk but its just something else to think about. If you don't think the enemy can and will use what you're talking about not only against you but others then youre mistaken. Just be wise (which youre seeking counsel, good job , it's best, no matter how pure you feel you can stay in the process, to not admire women for a lengthy amount a time for multiple different reasons.

DawnStar · Aug 23, 2016

Neogaia777 said:
But, admiring without lust a woman's glorious beauty, all her part's, not just T & A, but her hair, the way it's done, it's color, her eyes, her face, her shape and her form, her curves, her legs, wasn't woman created by God to admire?

I do not know about the others but if I did not know you very well and you told me you admire all my body and not just my T & A, I believe I would give you a well deserved slap across the face.

RobertMerton · Aug 23, 2016

There are some girls that will take your breath away in terms of their beauty.

To admire them in a non-sexual way in my opinion is not a sin.

redblue22 · Aug 23, 2016

lol . . . yes, adding on more parts deserves a slap.

Citanul · Aug 23, 2016

DawnStar said:
I do not know about the others but if I did not know you very well and you told me you admire all my body and not just my T & A, I believe I would give you a well deserved slap across the face.

Would it be a harder slap if he just told you that he admired your T&A?

Citanul · Aug 23, 2016

As a more serious response to this thread, I don't think there's anything wrong with seeing a woman and thinking that she's attractive. I certainly would find it difficult dating someone who I wasn't physically attracted to in some way.

But it's one thing to catch sight of someone and think, "Oh, she's pretty" and quite another thing to take another look, and then another look...

I wouldn't regard that as "lusting" after her in the way that Matthew 5:28 uses it as that's probably referring to something more than simply checking someone out, but continuing to do so is definitely moving towards creepy territory and would be something to be avoided.

DawnStar · Aug 23, 2016

Citanul said:
Would it be a harder slap if he just told you that he admired your T&A?

That would probably merit a kick in the groin.

SnowyMacie · Aug 23, 2016

I wish I could go back in the time and slap the person who started the idea that "thinking someone is physically attractive = lust." I've even seen a thread on here where someone wanted to know about the "boundaries of lust within marriage", in other words, between a husband and wife. Lust is a deep desire to use someone that is not yours. The root commandment, if you will, is coveting.

leothelioness · Aug 23, 2016

timewerx said:
Even if it is not lust, it still gives an uneasy feeling to be looked at or stared upon.

I don't know if it applies to everyone but I always know if anyone is staring at me even beyond 90 degrees of my field of view. I would often turn my head slowly towards their direction so they would stop.

This guy gets it. Lol

I hate being stared at even if it is at the beach. Please don't.

TheRealAriel · Aug 23, 2016

Yeah, I'm not a fan of being stared at ESPECIALLY on a beach. I'm wearing a bikini because I want sun on my whole body and because they're far more comfortable, not because I'm wanting to give you a show. How we dress and carry ourselves is not about you, guys. Wearing less clothing is not an invitation.

Even the most otherwise desirable guy can turn into someone you don't want to be around when he can't stop checking you out. There is nothing that gives me worse creep chills than when a guy says a compliment like "you look good" or "I like your dress" and then he scans his eyes slowly down your body. Whether he's just admiring my female form or picturing me in compromising situations, the result is the same. I'm outtie.

TheRealAriel · Aug 23, 2016

Also, an FYI that guys don't seem to get is we can't control our shape. Just because a girl is more stacked or has dramatic curves doesn't mean she necessarily is any more desirous of sexual attention. Justifying your creepiness by informing me I have a body built for sin is not gonna fly.

Toro · Aug 23, 2016

The best way to any womans heart is to stare at them for LONG periods of time.

Smile as big as possible. make sure your eyes are as wide open as possible... it shows good eye contact.

Then compliment the smell of her hair...... they LOVE that.... its why they wash it in berry scented shampoos and stuff.

Seriously, if you are looking at a woman "longingly" that is lust. Call it what you want but its still sin.

Does it make you a horrible person for "innocently admiring" a woman? It all depends on what you do with those feelings, but over all it just makes you human. Its one more reminder that we need Jesus in our every day lives not simply the "big" moments.

As far as do women like it? Depends on the woman. ALL women want to know they are desired and to feel beautiful..... its how someone chooses to express their "innocent admiration" that matters. The cat calls, whistles and stares may work on some women..... but most women see it as highly disrespectful. Complement a woman in a respectful way and you will have a better outcome than if you simply go the route of "Me man, you woman.... me like, I make whistles at you.".

If you'd feel guilty if you did that same action/thoughts in church.... then chances are that tells you where your heart is truly at in regards to your thoughts on that woman (women).

Toro · Aug 23, 2016

TheRealAriel said:
informing me I have a body built for sin is not gonna fly.

Dont we ALL have bodies built for sin? I mean.... I know Im always right, but Im certainly not perfect. I guess they would find me attractive as well.

Goodbook · Aug 23, 2016

Uh..in general dont do it I dont like being stared at.
One guy tried to touch me at the beach (on the leg, bare skin) i cant decide if it was creepy or innocent, or how long he had been staring at me.

But he was a random person I didnt even know. If you want to admire or compliment a woman go ahead but dont touch what isnt yours and dont stare. And dont wolf whistle, as we arent wolves.

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