I Drink Alone - What The Bible Really Says About Drinking

[Man on Fire]

The Lord's Wine

To best explain this, I will be working to explain Bible verses in a big picture type of way. I may be giving music videos as a visual representation. I will give some testimony. What does the Bible really say about drinking?

The Lord's Wine Bible Study:

• (Genesis 9:21)
  
• (1 Samuel 10:5)
• (Isaiah 63:6)
• (Jeremiah 35)
  
• (Proverbs 31:7)
• (Matthew 11:19)
• (Mark 2:22)
• (Luke 7:33)
• (Acts 2:15)

To paraphrase Apostle Paul, someone should not drink before they get the Spirit of God. Given they have the Spirit of God, it is not wrong to drink. In Jeremiah 35, there are the Rechabites. As Judah was about to be conquered, as everyone else was in rebellion, the Rechabites obeyed their patriarchal ancestor. They were offered wine in the Temple by Prophet Jeremiah. They refused because their ancestor told them not to drink. The Rechabites were blessed. Given someone reads the rest of this, and they disagree because that is how they were brought up, that is fine. That doesn't make them a Rechabite, but The Bible is Patriarchal, and there is nothing wrong with obeying a Christian tradition that says "do not drink." In fact, someone brought up well, or who is a Teetotaler, may have a particular function in the Body of Christ.

I Drink Alone.

• Let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more. (Proverbs 31:7)
• The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.' But wisdom is proved right by her deeds." (Matthew 11:19)

Over the internet the last month or so, I have posted the song "I Drink Alone" for God in a way to teach, and possibly to create something. I lived that way, working for God, for a few years.

Song: "I Drink Alone"

Rule 1 - Love The Lord your God with all your heart and soul and strength.
Rule 2 - Do not blame God.

Who should even try something like that? Well, unless you are talking to God, and it is in God's plan for you, you probably shouldn't.

A man who was on built to fail probation for years, and knows how to drink may have developed some bad habits. Given drinking was not one of his bad habits, and he can drink, this may be for him. Why? He was in misery, and he may of hated life. Let the poor man drink.

Divorce is one of the hardest things a man can go through. He shouldn't have to. The marriage laws in the west often have a double standard and favor women. Jesus does not give no fault divorce. (Matthew 19:9) He may have been miserable for awhile. Let the poor man drink?

A Military Veteran was probably miserable for awhile. He may drink a lot.

Given a man cannot sit at a bar alone, and not care, not care about women, not care about much of anything other than trying to relax, this probably isn't for him. Why? The son of man came eating and drinking. The son of man suffered or must suffer many things. (Luke 9:22) He may be miserable and poor in a variety of things. He is rich with God, and his treasures in heaven. They hated Jesus first.

Song: "Guarantees"

As a US Army Veteran, I ended up relocating from Washington State to Tennessee Alone. I had money to go back to college. I was on my way to having a career in Construction Management. Given someone would care to read that longish testimony: The Perfect Country Western Short Story.

Song: "A Girl Named Tennessee."

As I came into Tennessee, I started receiving a calling from God. I had drank a lot prior to. I ended up being shepherded into Matthew 11:19. I find that when a man drinks, what is on his heart comes out. Given sin or hate is on his heart, that may come out. Given it is nothing but the spirit of God, that may come out. Does a man need to drink to be drunk with the Holy Ghost? No. Drinking may help certain men's walls come down so the spirit of God flows smoother. As evidence I would give my blog here on Christianforums. Man on Fire | Christian Forums

Many of the ideas and themes in the Blog came during a night of drinking or the next morning. Those ideas may have been a few years old, but put together for the audience here.

 

[Doug Melven]

You forgot to add Proverbs 20:1.
Wine is a mocker and strong drink is raging and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
Also Proverbs 23
23:30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.
23:31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.
23:32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.
23:33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.
23:34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.
23:35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again

There is nothing wrong with drinking wine. Getting drunk is foolish.

 

[Man on Fire]

You forgot to add Proverbs 20:1.
Wine is a mocker and strong drink is raging and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
Also Proverbs 23
23:30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.
23:31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.
23:32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.
23:33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.
23:34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.
23:35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again

There is nothing wrong with drinking wine. Getting drunk is foolish.

I suppose only fools fall in love? Someone would have to be a fool for God or a madman for God?

 

[Basil the Great]

I have read that intentionally getting drunk is a mortal/grave sin for a Catholic. I do not know if this is accurate or not.

 

[sea5763]

I’ve never gotten drunk. I don’t drink because I don’t want to become a drug addict which does happen to some people. The only time I drink wine is a sip if I’m at communion and they ran out of grape juice. Someone asked me a couple days ago if my not drinking is a religious thing. I said it wasn’t because it’s cuz I don’t want to become an addict. I think drinking is fine as long as you don’t get drunk. But since the lines can blur between what’s too much and what isn’t, I avoid it completely except at communion.

 

[Man on Fire]

I joined the US Army at age 24. I had been drinking on the weekends since college. I drank more in my first six months or so in the US Army then I had in my entire life to that point. Some rough things happend. I learned to drink a lot. I had been a life long Christian.

Around age 30, I received a calling. I learned to sit in my apartment alone, with a whiskey and coke, a read my Bible. I enjoyed drinking. I was enjoying being with God alone.

 

[Man on Fire]

Positive Freedom vs Negative Freedom

Negative Freedom - Leave me alone.
Positive Freedom - The government works to give someone freedom often through welfare and entitlements. Most often associated with Modern Liberalism.

With a DD214, someone is not equal to other citizens. With an honorable discharge, he has entitlements other people who did not volunteer with an all volunteer military do not have.

Short Video: DD214

 

[dqhall]

Positive Freedom vs Negative Freedom

Negative Freedom - Leave me alone.
Positive Freedom - The government works to give someone freedom often through welfare and entitlements. Most often associated with Modern Liberalism.

With a DD214, someone is not equal to other citizens. With an honorable discharge, he has entitlements other people who did not volunteer with an all volunteer military do not have.

Short Video: DD214

My dad was a career military officer. He is in his 80's now. The military pays for the part of his medical expenses Medicare does not pay. Call it liberalism or entitlements if you want. He is entitled to it. Came back from the war mad as hell; calmed down as he got wiser.

Be sober. Alcoholism caused unsoundness of mind. A French study showed alcoholism to be a primary risk factor in early onset Alzheimer's/dementia. Alcoholics were dying young without a cause.

 

[Man on Fire]

Be sober. Alcoholism caused unsoundness of mind. A French study showed alcoholism to be a primary risk factor in early onset Alzheimer's/dementia. Alcoholics were dying young without a cause.

Alcoholism - What people call an addiction and a disease.

Jesus Christ frees people from such things.

Matthew 11:19.

I don't trust the French. I don't trust a lot of that science. Some of it has been like Bill Nye The Science Guy. Where people many children may have grown up loving became corrupt and demented and paid to produce "science" and studies to promote some political view. Sort of like how the Cigarette Industry had scientists saying that cigarettes do not harm you? Given someone grew in Faith with God, they may be on the some other level. I do not serve a god of the dead. God Almighty is God of the living.

Movie Trailer: Thank You For Smoking.

 

[Man on Fire]

Given someone has been reading here and accepting this, drinking, someone may discover some things about them, especially drinking with God. Some of the things I am mentioning are attracted to authority. Given someone has authority, they may have a target on them.

• We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. (2 Corinthians 10:5)

Song: Lonely is the Night

Given someone new to drinking tried this.....especially in the wrong way, especially without Christ, they may have found some demons or something.

My twitter page is an example. @manonfire63.

 

[Man on Fire]

Testimony:

May 24, 2014, I was about to be homeless. I had kept being arrested for things like walking home from a bar, and being held with the ability to pay my bail, but not being allowed to pay my bail. That is another testimony. Being held on a public intox charge for 27 days, and some other things that happened, made it so that I could not work or keep my apartment, and I was not going to plead guilty. I was feeling similar to Jonah. A variety of inopportune things were happening to me. God had called me, and he had things for me to do. He needed me to work for him, and sever some ties. I kept seeing visions of disaster and war, famine, and plague around the corner. I let go. I cut the cord.

I really liked living in Tennessee other than being arrested a few times, and I really liked where I lived. After my trouble with the law, I just felt sick about the place and fed up. I had the feeling that I was so disgusted with the state that I could not stay there another minute. I needed to move. I believe it was the last day of May, I started driving to North Carolina with everything I had on me in my F150.

What exactly brought me to North Carolina? I had been stationed there while in the Army. I had really liked North Carolina. There was also a female friend I had kept in touch with, and was working to marry her who lived there. I was a bridegroom looking for a bride. She was around 30 or so, and was a business woman. I had been talking to her for a couple months about being with her.

What does being a Bridegroom Looking for a Bride actually mean? I took a lot of pride in my apartment and worked to keep it pretty clean. Living alone isn't always easy. One day Spring 2014 I felt like a Bridegroom looking for a Bride. I needed a helper. It was like there was a mental block in my head or a motivational vacuum, and I stopped doing particular things around my apartment in terms of cleaning. I suppose it was additional motivation. I also started having problems reading and concentration on things not of God. I needed a helper.

I drove into Raleigh being driven by "Wagon Wheel." I had become aware of the Ties That Bind, and a lot of spiritual things. I saw that God sets up miracles, at times, and he needs someone to walk into them. I became a Bridegroom looking for a Bride, but I would rather not give the testimony of what exactly happened with those women. It didn't work out.

I was working into Homelessness around 2014 around North Carolina. I stayed in hotels the first two weeks or so. I ended up Saturnaliaing for all I had. That is, I partied down. I maxed out my credit card, and my bank account was over draft. I spent my money till I had no more. I spent it mostly on food and drink and hotels and gas. I was learning about Faith and how far I could go. Where I could reasonable lean on God? God was teaching me about Faith. I learned don't trust man, trust God.

Until It Sleeps

The following happened the first two weeks I was in North Carolina:

Dreams are often profound. I have had many dreams. I had never had a dream in High Definition IMAX. June 2014, I had a dream that was like I was at a movie theater to some degree. It was completely different than any other dream I had ever had before. A bright light like lighting flashed, and out the the light came the Delorean from "Back to the Future." I am in a black background like it is night with no stars, and there is nothing beneath my feet but I am aware that I am standing. The Delorean parks several feet away from me, and two entities come out. There were like silhouettes of men with no features. One was taller than the other. This was The Father and The Son. They walked up to me, and walked through me, and then walked back to the Delorean. They took off.

What did it mean? God is love. We have Huey Lewis and the News "The Power of Love." It could be taken to mean that Socialism and Luciferians have taken mankind off course, and away from the Kingdom of God, and we are going....."Back to the Future." The passing of the Father and Son through me signify that I was receiving a lot of God's Spirit.

During this time in June 2014, I was actively working for God online with my iphone4. I was posting things on "Champions for Christ" Facebook Page. I was taking notes. I was rolling with what God was giving me.

I was also experiencing some intense Spiritual things. For example, one day I felt spiritually drunk in a particular way. It was like my body felt like the black and white static on a TV screen, but it was black and red and felt intoxicating. It was a spiritual intoxication like I was reading Revelations with the mind of the man who wrote it. I also felt like I had gasoline in my blood, and was going at 1000 Miles per Hour. Given you notice some of the things I do with Music Videos on /r/tiesthatbind, during June 2014, I had a hard time stopping, and could chain videos together to tell a story or teach something at a very fast rate of speed. I believe my record was 187 videos in about 5 hours non-stop.

Being close to God, God being Holy and Separate from sin, I discovered I needed to confess my sins and had saved them. As I was working for God, he would remind me of some sin I had at a pace and speed I could handle. I would start feeling red hot like a lobster. Using reason and faith, I reasonably found ways to confess my sins, often publicly, and deal with them until I felt God and I were both satisfied. I found that my soul was stained with my sins, and they lived my subconscious. Even if I had not thought about them day to day, my sins were still there deep in my soul.

The only way to the father is through the son. Jesus shared the father with me. For a few weeks, it felt like God was a coin. On one side there was a stern man who was stoic and serious. On the other there was a playful fatherly figure who mostly wanted to tickle torture me in a fatherly playful way. It was like Jesus was protecting the father, and dealing with rough things. In some comic books a character may wear a costume to express some part of his personality so that he could be a different person when he is not in costume. That is, in a way, what I was seeing, but not 100% accurate. It is hard to give words to.

Man is made in the image of God. God is long suffering. I became aware of Jesus' pain and suffering. Having all these profound spiritual experiences, and changes, and going into homelessness at the same time was not easy. I ended up discovering "Until it Sleeps" Music Video by Metallica for the first time. I had not realized that music video was about religion or the spiritual before. I would be come aware of Jesus' suffering, and my own sin, and I would start posting "Until It Sleeps" online somewhere. This actually helped me feel better. I was in pain.

A lot of the first two weeks of June 2014 became blurry to me. When I say I was in pain, it was the type of pain that might drive someone mad or to suicide, and God has blocked some of it out to me. What helped me get through it was Lincoln Durham. Something about his music was gritty and hit on the spiritual just right that helped me feel better. Many times I was feeling spiritual hot and in pain by it in a way that all I wanted to do was lay down. I youtube searched "December." I found "December" Collective Soul. I would lay on my side, and listen to the lyrics and follow directions. It helped me feel better, and was profound in a "No Leaf Clover" way. God was also showing me a lot of ugly things that happens behind closed doors. I search on YouTube something about Secrets I believe. I found "Bleed Me Dry" Armada of Secrets. Something about the song also helped me feel better.

 

[Doug Melven]

I suppose only fools fall in love? Someone would have to be a fool for God or a madman for God?

2 Corinthians 5:13 For whether we are fools, it is unto God; or whether we are sane, it is for your cause.

 

[Man on Fire]

2 Corinthians 5:13 For whether we are fools, it is unto God; or whether we are sane, it is for your cause.

I am not here judging your drinking, nor your drinking abilities. I provided something. I stick buy it.

 

[justbyfaith]

See Proverbs 20:1, 23:29-35, Eph. 5:18.

 

[Man on Fire]

See Proverbs 20:1, 23:29-35, Eph. 5:18.

Whiskey and Wine

About six months ago(from the time this was originally written) I felt compelled to drink some whiskey and wine. God moved me to make a playlist of music about it.

Purpose:

Growing in understanding of God. The Bible is full of allegories and parables. Lets make sense of them, and do some critical thinking.

General Theme:

God is an Awesome God. Man is God's Glory. Man is made in the image of God. What man does may reflect something of God or the spiritual. What is reflecting? Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine. A Joel Olsteen would be like a water salesmen? Someone people go to after they are hurt by a lot of sin, and tired of it, but does not really call them into repentance? Wine would be knowledge of God and how he works. Knowledge of God and the Spiritual. This may bring some fear of God or Awe of God.

Chris Stapleton - “Tennessee Whiskey”

Deana Carter - “Strawberry Wine”

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The next songs may be a bit harder to see without words.

The Church is a Bride for Christ. The Song of Song is in the Bible as a representation of God's Love for Israel?

Cathedrals - “Try to Fight”

Talking to God takes meekness and humility. Given you believe false things to be true or are unrepentant, you may be blind and deaf. The Holy Ghost is a teacher and a councilor.

“Oh Well”

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Merle Haggard - “Wine Take Me Away”

 

[Jenniferdiana]

i think wine should be a remembrance of Jesus ..drinking isnt bad..but it should be done in moderation..actually anything we eat or drink should be done in moderation..i am so guilty of this too..sometimes i overindulge on too many things..and its not good for our health to overindulge on such things..but if a man want to drink let him, but i guess some over do it..i know most men go through stuff more then women do..and God did say man shall not be alone, he didnt say woman he said man..so i think women should be considerate of thier husbands and think about thier needs..vice versa haha whatever why do you need approval to drink from others..none of us are perfect..as long as you are in right standing with God, why should we care about what others teach..or say..we arent call to judge others and look at each others faults because we are all faulty in some way dude..

 

[Jenniferdiana]

worrying about what other people say think and teach will only drive us up the wall and completely nuts..hey just do you..

 

[Shempster]

Right on, there.

It's not what goes into a man that makes him unclean, but rather what comes out.
The truth about alcohol is that is does cause some people to sin when they consume too much. So for that person, they should either not drink any alcohol or observe a strict limit of one.
Other people do not have that problem. For some reason, it does not cause others to sin. Normally this is because they choose not to have too much, thus sparing themselves from all the pitfalls of drunkenness.

And this rule should apply to any substance. You can get equally addicted to caffeine or sugar, which both have adverse effects on the body. And believe me, caffeine and sugar change the way people act, just in different ways. Drinking too much coffee makes me edgy, forgetful and easily agitated. So I limit myself to 1/2 a cup which doesn't seem to bother me. For me, that is the way it is. Same with wine. I love a glass or two of cabernet. And provided I ate something beforehand, it does not cause me to forget God and seek out evil.

 

[justbyfaith]

Let the blind be leaders of the blind, Jesus said.