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How to Get Baptized if You Don't Belong to a Church?

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Is it possible to become legitimately baptized without having to jump through hoops and/or join a Church?

The Biblical account of baptism seems simple to me - you ask to be baptized and a Christian baptizes you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. That's it. "Here is water, why can't I be baptized?"

Where can I get baptized without joining a church? It seems you have to jump through some kinds of hoops to be baptized today. Either you must join the church which is baptizing you or you at least must be interviewed and vetted or perhaps go through a period of probation of some sort. I don't see anything in the Bible about vetting and probation and Church membership.

So, why can't someone just become baptized without the extra added stuff?
 
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So, why can't someone just become baptized without the extra added stuff?

If you've repented of sin and have given your all in the Lord's service, getting baptized is just a symbol of one's consecration to the Lord. So yes, another Christian can baptize you without jumping through denominational hoops. (although some will try)

I personally baptized my wife earlier this year.
 
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Well... there's a communal aspect of confessing ones faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and savior in public that cannot be separated from the baptism itself except from extraordinary circumstances such as deathbed conversions and such.

Also catechism should follow :

Matthew 28-18-20
18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
 
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Baptism is an ordinance of the church/body of believers. It's symbolic to show the group you are joining that you ARE one of them: follower of Christ.

Communion and Marriage are two other ordinances that belong to the church.

Yes, you could be baptized without a church, yes you can take the Lord's Supper without a church and yes, you could have your own marriage ceremony without a church... but it would not have the same meaning, see?
 
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Just like our natural birth brings us into our natural family, the new birth which we receive in Holy Baptism brings us into God's family. As such there is the assumption that the baptized are going to be raised in the faith, and share in the life of faith in the Church. The Church makes a commitment to the baptized, just as the baptized make a commitment to the Church--whether speaking for themselves because they are old enough to speak for themselves, or whether it is their parents on their behalf if they are very young children. That commitment is a two-way street, because the baptized is now part of us, and we of them, in Christ, by the power and unity of the Holy Spirit.

It's not about getting your name on a membership roll, it's the fact that we are one Body in Jesus Christ, by the power of the Holy Spirit, under the fatherhood of God.

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Not really. Baptism is an ordinance of the church/body of believers. It's symbolic to show the group you are joining that you ARE one of them: follower of Christ.
When one gets baptized they are dedicating their lives to God, NOT to a denomination. No Church, no denomination, sect or group can save you, only Christ.
 
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Is it possible to become legitimately baptized without having to jump through hoops and/or join a Church?

The Biblical account of baptism seems simple to me - you ask to be baptized and a Christian baptizes you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. That's it. "Here is water, why can't I be baptized?"

It seems you have to jump through some kinds of hoops to be baptized today. Either you must join the church which is baptizing you or you at least must be interviewed and vetted or perhaps go through a period of probation of some sort. I don't see anything in the Bible about vetting and probation and Church membership.

So, why can't someone just become baptized without the extra added stuff?

There is a story from the synaxarium (I cannot remember the day or else I would link to it directly from one of the online editions) of a woman who was traveling by sea to Alexandria to have her child baptized in the church there. During their voyage, the weather turned bad and she legitimately feared that they may not reach their destination. In desperation, she baptized her child herself, in the name of the Holy Trinity. Miraculously, the ship did not sink but instead reached its destination. So she hurried to the church and presented the child to the priest for baptism. When the priest proceeded with the baptismal rite, he went to submerge the child in the water only to find that it had turned to stone! Perplexed, he asked the woman if there were any strange events on their trip over that might account for this. She then told him of her emergency baptism on the ship, to which the priest replied that he could not baptize the child, for the baptism had already been performed, and it is not possible to baptize twice.

This story shows, among other things, that the baptism of the believer is acceptable to God, and yet also that there is a standard way by which we do things that is also acceptable. Exceptions such as this are noteworthy (there's a reason why we remember it), but are just that: exceptions.

So I do not believe that it is that we necessarily want to put anyone "through hoops" to get baptized (though we certainly do want to make sure that they fully accept the Orthodox faith, so that they understand Who it is that they are putting on), but rather that ways have developed since the time of the Bible which mark a person as specifically having been received into a preexisting church community (no matter which type -- Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, etc.), and hence those ways have been formalized in a way that they may not have been in earlier times. There were various Jewish sects who baptized in various ways during Biblical times, and with various interpretations behind them. Some, if I recall correctly, baptized themselves at regular intervals, which would certainly seem inappropriate for a Christian to do given the particularly Christian theology involved in baptism from our view. Was Christ periodically crucified, so that we may die and rise with Him on some kind of schedule, or did He say "It is finished"? The answer is obvious, so I would not discount the very developments that mark our baptisms as being specifically Christian, even if they may seem like "extra stuff" relative to the more simple way of doing things in St. John the Forerunner's time (for instance). Were it as simple as "Here's water; someone baptize me" we would not have seen the controversy surrounding the lapsi in North Africa (in the Latin churches there, anyway, among the Christian Berbers like Donatus), and yet that's just what history reveals to us, and that history is what sharpened our own ideas about baptism, so while the controversy itself was horrid (as all Church schisms are), I think we can look back on balance and say that it at least yielded good developments.

Anyway...that's why someone "can't just become baptized", though in a certain way they can (e.g., ecclesiastical lines do not make some sort of 'cage' for God, no matter what anyone may tell you). Honestly I think a much better reference for the reality of the situation is not in any of the discussion or examples of baptism in the Bible, but instead of one conversion that we know did occur without baptism (at least not immediately...) -- that of Saul of Tarsus/St. Paul. We all know the famous "road to Damascus" moment of the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ to the saint, but let us not forget what happened immediately afterwards, because it is instructive:

3 As he journeyed he came near Damascus, and suddenly a light shone around him from heaven. 4 Then he fell to the ground, and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?" 5 And he said, "Who are You, Lord?" Then the Lord said, "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads." 6 So he, trembling and astonished, said, "Lord, what do You want me to do?" Then the Lord said to him, "Arise and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do." 7 8 Then Saul arose from the ground, and when his eyes were opened he saw no one. But they led him by the hand and brought him into Damascus. 9 10 Now there was a certain disciple at Damascus named Ananias; and to him the Lord said in a vision, "Ananias." And he said, "Here I am, Lord." 11 So the Lord said to him, "Arise and go to the street called Straight, and inquire at the house of Judas for one called Saul of Tarsus, for behold, he is praying. 12 13 14 And here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call on Your name. 15 16 For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name's sake." 17 And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him [...]"

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That is St. Paul's conversion, which ends in his baptism (which I have excised, because it's not like you're asking why people need to get baptized period, so it doesn't really matter for this question that he was at the end baptized). But notice what comes before: he was led into Damascus, to the preexisting Christian community, and received by the hand of Ananias.

This is as we still do it, as you well know. Reception into a community is something different than an individual's decision to get baptized, or even the manner in which it is done (as that varies according to which church you are looking at), but it is the main point of any "hoops" -- not to add anything extraneous or frustrate people, but because no one is to be alone within the Body of Christ. Whether God personally tells someone to go find you and baptize you himself or not, you're still being received into a community. And every community has some sort of standard, even if they claim they don't, or if it is much simpler than some other community, or whatever. Even the Unitarian Universalists, who don't really qualify as a religion in any kind of traditional sense and do not require any creedal beliefs or common idea about God to be expressed (that's kind of the point of why they exist: to be a kind of 'non-religion' for people who are nevertheless on their own spiritual journeys) have nonetheless developed their own sorts of rituals for the reception of new members. Here is one of their 'baptisms' (as described by the video's uploader, not me):


It seems to be mostly speeches and foofaraw, but someone could make the case that this is all "extra added stuff", too. Looking at it I see not a baptism in any kind of Christian sense (again, consciously so, from what I understand of the stances of UUs), but one reflex of the sort of primal urge of our species to gather to mark the entrance of a new member into the community (it's just that in this case it's not as strictly religious).

But we as Christians are generally not satisfied with something so general as to exclude our particular God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit +), and hence have developed rituals of varying length and complexity and character in order to do our own welcoming in exactly the right way. My own baptism took...I don't know...two hours? Something like that. (I was baptized on the same day as the newest member of the parish -- a girl of 80 days old, as is our tradition. May God keep her forever. It weirds me out to think that she must now be almost 7 years old. Time flies when you're engaged in seemingly endless worship...baptism included. :))
 
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Is it possible to become legitimately baptized without having to jump through hoops and/or join a Church?

The Biblical account of baptism seems simple to me - you ask to be baptized and a Christian baptizes you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. That's it. "Here is water, why can't I be baptized?"

It seems you have to jump through some kinds of hoops to be baptized today. Either you must join the church which is baptizing you or you at least must be interviewed and vetted or perhaps go through a period of probation of some sort. I don't see anything in the Bible about vetting and probation and Church membership.

So, why can't someone just become baptized without the extra added stuff?
I get the frustration but a lot of Christians want to know what you believe (and, also, make sure they agree with what you believe) before baptizing you. It's an understandable practice.

Candidates were vetted in the Early Church when Christians were persecuted by Rome. The notion of double-checking someone's beliefs has quite a historical pedigree going for it as a security measure.

My Church teaches that anybody can baptize. Guidelines exist but as a general rule, anybody can baptize anybody.
 
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Christianity isn't a solo operation- you don't get baptized and go out on your own. Christianity is about community, and you are mandated to commune with other believers on the Lord's day. If a church doesn't desire to baptize someone who has no intentions of joining their community or joining in any congregation, it's probably for your own good. They know what baptism is, and when someone asks to be baptized but isn't willing to do everything that baptism requires of them, they would feel obligated to withhold it.
 
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Is it possible to become legitimately baptized without having to jump through hoops and/or join a Church?

The Biblical account of baptism seems simple to me - you ask to be baptized and a Christian baptizes you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. That's it. "Here is water, why can't I be baptized?"

It seems you have to jump through some kinds of hoops to be baptized today. Either you must join the church which is baptizing you or you at least must be interviewed and vetted or perhaps go through a period of probation of some sort. I don't see anything in the Bible about vetting and probation and Church membership.

So, why can't someone just become baptized without the extra added stuff?

While I believe any man, elder, of true faith can baptize, (doesn't need to be the Pastor in specific) I do believe we are commanded to community.

And I don't see that community as being optional. Hebrews 10:25 It's for our, and other believers benefit. They are a blessing to us and we to them. Its in person..

So yes, you should desire your baptism to be with those your staying and worshipping with. Learning together, sharing our Christian walk with. Let your baptism also bless and encourage them..
 
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I don't believe it's a requirement for every church. My pastor baptized me, although I was choosing to join the church the same day, which I brought up because I wanted to do both. He offered to baptize my father, and never mentioned my father officially joining. He just knew my father was an unbaptized Christian. It would probably depend on the denomination.
 
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Is it possible to become legitimately baptized without having to jump through hoops and/or join a Church?

The Biblical account of baptism seems simple to me - you ask to be baptized and a Christian baptizes you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. That's it. "Here is water, why can't I be baptized?"

It seems you have to jump through some kinds of hoops to be baptized today. Either you must join the church which is baptizing you or you at least must be interviewed and vetted or perhaps go through a period of probation of some sort. I don't see anything in the Bible about vetting and probation and Church membership.

So, why can't someone just become baptized without the extra added stuff?

Actually, to say that in the new testament one only needed to be baptized by a layman isn't correct. Baptisms in the new testament are performed by the apostles or those under their supervision. The men of Samaria had been given water baptism by laymen, but were only chrismated by apostles.

In modern times it is a Bishop, a successor to the apostles, that supervises baptism by a priest.
 
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When it comes to the question of "who may baptize?" I think it's important to make a distinction between what is good order and what is absolute. In the most absolute sense, no, obviously one doesn't have to receive Baptism from an ordained member of the clergy; but there is also a good order that exists because God desires His Church to be orderly, not chaotic and thrown about in confusion. Which is why under all ordinary circumstances we reserve the act of baptizing to our pastors.

Good order doesn't mean we're all automatons doing what we're told unquestioningly, it simply means that it's alright to delegate tasks in certain ways that benefits all of us. Anyone can preach a sermon on Sunday morning, but we generally reserve that for the pastor, because that's the pastor's vocation in the Church--to serve the Church by preaching the Word and administrating the Sacraments. That's why they were called and ordained.

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Here is an early history of pioneer Christians in Iowa. Note that they often wouldn't see a pastor or get together for a month or more and that was only if they traveled many miles to the meeting. I read that and pictured what it was like for pioneers to more distant and difficult places to reach such as the Rocky Mountains.
I suspect that there were Christians baptizing each other and their children. They were very likely also officiating marriages between their children and their neighbor's children.
GOING TO CHURCH WITH THE PIONEERS

I have no reason to believe that God didn't accept these baptisms or marriages.
 
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Is it possible to become legitimately baptized without having to jump through hoops and/or join a Church?

The Biblical account of baptism seems simple to me - you ask to be baptized and a Christian baptizes you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. That's it. "Here is water, why can't I be baptized?"

It seems you have to jump through some kinds of hoops to be baptized today. Either you must join the church which is baptizing you or you at least must be interviewed and vetted or perhaps go through a period of probation of some sort. I don't see anything in the Bible about vetting and probation and Church membership.

So, why can't someone just become baptized without the extra added stuff?

I'll try not to be too long winded here. First what is baptism? Is it necessary for salvation? It isn't an act that has any saving properties so one should not look to baptism as some magic ceremony. What then is it for? In the time of Christ baptism was a way that people publically announced allegiance to someone or some cause. So Jesus commanded the apostles to go baptizing in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Peter said baptize in the name of Jesus. Paul told the church at Corinth that they were getting too focused on baptism and not enough on Christ. We do love our ceremonies. After all on the Mt. of Transfiguration the first thing Peter wanted to do was build 3 tabernacles. God was like "heh... this is my beloved Son HEAR HIM!" Anyways baptism is not for God it is for you and me. Since my conversion in 1990 I've stopped counting the number of times I've been baptized. But the one that means something to me was the one where my best friend baptized me in a city fountain on the Plaza in Kansas City Missouri. There was no one there except for he and I and a whole bunch of people neither of us knew. But that baptism was special to me because not only was it a confession before men my decision to follow Christ, but it also characterized the kind of Christianity I was following. While a world of Christians were staying shut up in their crystal cathedrals and ignoring the lost I was being bred to proclaim Jesus on the street in satanic territory.

So brother the thing you must ask yourself is this. What does baptism mean to you? How special is it to you? I mean take as an example the ring ceremony in a wedding. Some people want to have it in a huge church full of hundreds or even thousands of people, while others just want to have it at that special little place the man and woman met. Neither way is "better" or "more correct" than the other. The important thing is that you have chosen to follow Christ and that you have a desire to make that decision public. Apart from that, get baptized where ever and with whomever you want.

God bless you my friend.
 
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I'll try not to be too long winded here. First what is baptism? Is it necessary for salvation? It isn't an act that has any saving properties so one should not look to baptism as some magic ceremony.

Magic? Of course not. The Sacraments aren't magic. But they are Means of Grace, and Scripture pretty explicitly attaches certain promises to them. In the Acts of the Apostles St. Peter speaks of Baptism as promising forgiveness of sin and the gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38), in Romans ch. 6 St. Paul speaks of our Baptism as our having been crucified and buried with Christ, in Galatians 3:27 St. Paul says that whoever has been Baptized is clothed with Christ, and again says that we were buried with Christ in Baptism in Colossians 2:12; and if that weren't enough St. Peter in 1 Peter 3:21 says explicitly that "Baptism now saves you". So of course Baptism has a salvific dimension, because God works through Baptism to unite us to Jesus Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection, to give us the Holy Spirit, convey to us the forgiveness of sins, and so on. In John 3:5 Jesus says that the new birth consists of being born "of water and the Spirit" and St. Paul in Titus 3:5 speaks of our having received the "washing of regeneration", in Ephesians 5:26 saying that Christ has cleansed us with "the washing of water with the word".

The only way to avoid dealing with the rather straight forward statements about Baptism is by radically redefining Baptism as something other than Baptism or playing loosey goosey with the Scriptures to twist and turn them over until they mean whatever we want them to mean. But from Scripture all the way to the present there has been a consistent Christian teaching about the meaning and significance of Baptism that is impossible to deny.

What then is it for? In the time of Christ baptism was a way that people publically announced allegiance to someone or some cause.

If you have evidence to back this statement up that would certainly be helpful.

But, of course, in the time of Christ that wasn't what baptism was for. In Judaism then, just as today, ritual washing was part of the religious practice, and in general it served the purpose of ritual purification. But one of the purposes of ritual washing (then, just as now) was as part of the process of conversion. A Gentile who desired to convert to Judaism not only needed to be circumcised (if they were male) but undergo a ritual washing (tevilah) in a ritual bath (mikveh). As such the mikveh served as a means of entry into God's household, going from Gentile outsider to Jewish insider.

John had a distinct and special prophetic ministry, one that involved calling the Jewish people to repentance, it was part of his prophetic role as the forerunner to the Messiah. And so he was calling people to repentance to prepare them for the Messiah's coming. Which is precisely why after Jesus "fulfills all righteousness" by Himself receiving a baptism from John (though He had no need of repentance) it brought conclusion to John's role, and so John would say "He must increase and I must decrease".

Christian Baptism comes out of that context: And thus Baptism is given as the means by which we enter into God's household of faith, the Church; and with it is attached certain promises. It is not some sort of ritual purification by which to cleanse the body of dirt, but a ἐπερώτημα (pledge, craving, desire, appeal, demand, inquiry) of a clean conscience to God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Peter 3:21). This Baptism is by the name and authority of Jesus who institutes it, in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. And so since by it we are baptized into Christ, we are baptized into His death, buried with Him, and raised with Him to new life; and there is forgiveness of sin because what is given to us is nothing other than Christ's death and resurrection--He who died for our sins and by Whom all sin is indeed forgiven.

Not magic, but a Sacrament.

So Jesus commanded the apostles to go baptizing in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Peter said baptize in the name of Jesus. Paul told the church at Corinth that they were getting too focused on baptism and not enough on Christ.

That's not what Paul said. Paul was fed up with the factions in the Corinthian church, as they were saying things like "I am of Paul" and "I am of Peter" and "I am of Apollos" and "I am of Christ". They were taking sides based on who baptized them, and so Paul is grateful that he didn't baptize very many in the Corinthian church because he found the whole dividing up into cliques was repugnant, saying "Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?". Paul wasn't interested in personally baptizing because of this very reason, so he says "Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the Gospel". That's what Paul says. Not that the Corinthians were "too focused on baptism", because Paul does not just condemn those saying "I am of Paul" or "I am of Peter", but also "I am of Christ"--this cliquishness was repugnant. For they were baptized into Christ, for Christ was crucified for them, and therefore Christ is not divided, so the Apostle will say later: "What is Apollos, really? Or what is Paul? Servants through whom you came to believe, and each of us in the ministry the Lord gave us. I planted, Apollos watered, but God caused it to grow. So neither the one who plants counts for anything, nor the one who waters, but God who causes the growth."

I don't understand why this is so difficult--the Scripture isn't exactly vague here. The text says what it says rather plainly. Why make something up instead of just looking at what the text says? Scripture isn't always plain, sometimes it is vague, sometimes it is very hard to understand--but sometimes it's pretty straightforward. The text says what it means and means what it says.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Magic? Of course not. The Sacraments aren't magic. But they are Means of Grace, and Scripture pretty explicitly attaches certain promises to them. In the Acts of the Apostles St. Peter speaks of Baptism as promising forgiveness of sin and the gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38), in Romans ch. 6 St. Paul speaks of our Baptism as our having been crucified and buried with Christ, in Galatians 3:27 St. Paul says that whoever has been Baptized is clothed with Christ, and again says that we were buried with Christ in Baptism in Colossians 2:12; and if that weren't enough St. Peter in 1 Peter 3:21 says explicitly that "Baptism now saves you". So of course Baptism has a salvific dimension, because God works through Baptism to unite us to Jesus Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection, to give us the Holy Spirit, convey to us the forgiveness of sins, and so on. In John 3:5 Jesus says that the new birth consists of being born "of water and the Spirit" and St. Paul in Titus 3:5 speaks of our having received the "washing of regeneration", in Ephesians 5:26 saying that Christ has cleansed us with "the washing of water with the word".

The only way to avoid dealing with the rather straight forward statements about Baptism is by radically redefining Baptism as something other than Baptism or playing loosey goosey with the Scriptures to twist and turn them over until they mean whatever we want them to mean. But from Scripture all the way to the present there has been a consistent Christian teaching about the meaning and significance of Baptism that is impossible to deny.



If you have evidence to back this statement up that would certainly be helpful.

But, of course, in the time of Christ that wasn't what baptism was for. In Judaism then, just as today, ritual washing was part of the religious practice, and in general it served the purpose of ritual purification. But one of the purposes of ritual washing (then, just as now) was as part of the process of conversion. A Gentile who desired to convert to Judaism not only needed to be circumcised (if they were male) but undergo a ritual washing (tevilah) in a ritual bath (mikveh). As such the mikveh served as a means of entry into God's household, going from Gentile outsider to Jewish insider.

John had a distinct and special prophetic ministry, one that involved calling the Jewish people to repentance, it was part of his prophetic role as the forerunner to the Messiah. And so he was calling people to repentance to prepare them for the Messiah's coming. Which is precisely why after Jesus "fulfills all righteousness" by Himself receiving a baptism from John (though He had no need of repentance) it brought conclusion to John's role, and so John would say "He must increase and I must decrease".

Christian Baptism comes out of that context: And thus Baptism is given as the means by which we enter into God's household of faith, the Church; and with it is attached certain promises. It is not some sort of ritual purification by which to cleanse the body of dirt, but a ἐπερώτημα (pledge, craving, desire, appeal, demand, inquiry) of a clean conscience to God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Peter 3:21). This Baptism is by the name and authority of Jesus who institutes it, in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. And so since by it we are baptized into Christ, we are baptized into His death, buried with Him, and raised with Him to new life; and there is forgiveness of sin because what is given to us is nothing other than Christ's death and resurrection--He who died for our sins and by Whom all sin is indeed forgiven.

Not magic, but a Sacrament.



That's not what Paul said. Paul was fed up with the factions in the Corinthian church, as they were saying things like "I am of Paul" and "I am of Peter" and "I am of Apollos" and "I am of Christ". They were taking sides based on who baptized them, and so Paul is grateful that he didn't baptize very many in the Corinthian church because he found the whole dividing up into cliques was repugnant, saying "Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?". Paul wasn't interested in personally baptizing because of this very reason, so he says "Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the Gospel". That's what Paul says. Not that the Corinthians were "too focused on baptism", because Paul does not just condemn those saying "I am of Paul" or "I am of Peter", but also "I am of Christ"--this cliquishness was repugnant. For they were baptized into Christ, for Christ was crucified for them, and therefore Christ is not divided, so the Apostle will say later: "What is Apollos, really? Or what is Paul? Servants through whom you came to believe, and each of us in the ministry the Lord gave us. I planted, Apollos watered, but God caused it to grow. So neither the one who plants counts for anything, nor the one who waters, but God who causes the growth."

I don't understand why this is so difficult--the Scripture isn't exactly vague here. The text says what it says rather plainly. Why make something up instead of just looking at what the text says? Scripture isn't always plain, sometimes it is vague, sometimes it is very hard to understand--but sometimes it's pretty straightforward. The text says what it means and means what it says.

-CryptoLutheran

First, at least 60 times the New Testament speaks of salvation by faith alone without mentioning baptism. If baptism is in fact necessary for salvation, why is there this emphasis on faith for salvation but not on baptism in Scripture? Second, the phrase "for the remission of sins," used by Peter in Acts 2:38, is also used to describe John the Baptist's baptism (Luke 3:3; Mark 1:4), but no one supposes that his baptism literally washed away people's sins (why would they need to later be rebaptized? Acts 19:1-6). The word "for" in the Greek (eis) need only mean "with a view toward," for we know that the Jews baptized people "for" such things as "freedom," "God's justice," etc.

In 1st Corinthians 1:11-13 Paul even gives us evidence that the early church themselves we're baptizing in the names of various leaders. Starting with verse 14 Paul shows us just how important he thinks baptism really is. He says "I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;" In verse 17 he says "For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect." A very interesting thing for Paul to say if baptism is essential to our Salvation.
 
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