How the universe can be forever

[Tjufsen]

The universe is a little early, so it haven`t happened yet probably, but when a black hole get`s heavy enough, it collapses, and forms a new sun, all the matter is gathers, all the used energy, makes it heavier, and heavier, all matter is energy, and when the sun burns, it makes old energy, old energy have a little mass to it, that`s also how planets can have more mass, than it seems possible without saying it`s from black matter, yes, I don`t really believe in dark energy, or black matter, but you have something called old energy which forms when sun burns, that old energy gathers around planets because of gravity, so there`s the explaination of how it can stay together, so the universe, won`t just end in darkness, there`s always black holes that`ll form a new sun again, but a downside to the theory of traveling through a wormhole though, since black holes just gathers mass until it collapses, there`s no tunnelling, and also, since the first sun/energy, came to be from nothing, there`s perhaps, a chance, it`ll happen again, and since the universe is infinite in all directions also, there have to be infininte amount of black matter also to cover it all, the theory is that it just stretches, and stretches, until the universe collapses, but I don`t think that`s true, what`s your take on it?

 

[Mark Quayle]

The universe is a little early, so it haven`t happened yet probably, but when a black hole get`s heavy enough, it collapses, and forms a new sun, all the matter is gathers, all the used energy, makes it heavier, and heavier, all matter is energy, and when the sun burns, it makes old energy, old energy have a little mass to it, that`s also how planets can have more mass, than it seems possible without saying it`s from black matter, yes, I don`t really believe in dark energy, or black matter, but you have something called old energy which forms when sun burns, that old energy gathers around planets because of gravity, so there`s the explaination of how it can stay together, so the universe, won`t just end in darkness, there`s always black holes that`ll form a new sun again, but a downside to the theory of traveling through a wormhole though, since black holes just gathers mass until it collapses, there`s no tunnelling, and also, since the first sun/energy, came to be from nothing, there`s perhaps, a chance, it`ll happen again, and since the universe is infinite in all directions also, there have to be infininte amount of black matter also to cover it all, the theory is that it just stretches, and stretches, until the universe collapses, but I don`t think that`s true, what`s your take on it?

It either will, or it won't. Chance has no ability to determine anything.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

The universe is a little early, so it haven`t happened yet probably, but when a black hole get`s heavy enough, it collapses, and forms a new sun, all the matter is gathers, all the used energy, makes it heavier, and heavier, all matter is energy, and when the sun burns, it makes old energy, old energy have a little mass to it, that`s also how planets can have more mass, than it seems possible without saying it`s from black matter, yes, I don`t really believe in dark energy, or black matter, but you have something called old energy which forms when sun burns, that old energy gathers around planets because of gravity, so there`s the explaination of how it can stay together, so the universe, won`t just end in darkness, there`s always black holes that`ll form a new sun again, but a downside to the theory of traveling through a wormhole though, since black holes just gathers mass until it collapses, there`s no tunnelling, and also, since the first sun/energy, came to be from nothing, there`s perhaps, a chance, it`ll happen again, and since the universe is infinite in all directions also, there have to be infininte amount of black matter also to cover it all, the theory is that it just stretches, and stretches, until the universe collapses, but I don`t think that`s true, what`s your take on it?

I think you have a whole lot of reading you need to do.

 

[Aussie Pete]

The universe is a little early, so it haven`t happened yet probably, but when a black hole get`s heavy enough, it collapses, and forms a new sun, all the matter is gathers, all the used energy, makes it heavier, and heavier, all matter is energy, and when the sun burns, it makes old energy, old energy have a little mass to it, that`s also how planets can have more mass, than it seems possible without saying it`s from black matter, yes, I don`t really believe in dark energy, or black matter, but you have something called old energy which forms when sun burns, that old energy gathers around planets because of gravity, so there`s the explaination of how it can stay together, so the universe, won`t just end in darkness, there`s always black holes that`ll form a new sun again, but a downside to the theory of traveling through a wormhole though, since black holes just gathers mass until it collapses, there`s no tunnelling, and also, since the first sun/energy, came to be from nothing, there`s perhaps, a chance, it`ll happen again, and since the universe is infinite in all directions also, there have to be infininte amount of black matter also to cover it all, the theory is that it just stretches, and stretches, until the universe collapses, but I don`t think that`s true, what`s your take on it?

........................................................... a few full stops you might want to use. Reading your post gives me a headache.

 

[stevil]

The universe is a little early, so it haven`t happened yet probably, but when a black hole get`s heavy enough, it collapses, and forms a new sun, all the matter is gathers, all the used energy, makes it heavier, and heavier, all matter is energy, and when the sun burns, it makes old energy, old energy have a little mass to it, that`s also how planets can have more mass, than it seems possible without saying it`s from black matter, yes, I don`t really believe in dark energy, or black matter, but you have something called old energy which forms when sun burns, that old energy gathers around planets because of gravity, so there`s the explaination of how it can stay together, so the universe, won`t just end in darkness, there`s always black holes that`ll form a new sun again, but a downside to the theory of traveling through a wormhole though, since black holes just gathers mass until it collapses, there`s no tunnelling, and also, since the first sun/energy, came to be from nothing, there`s perhaps, a chance, it`ll happen again, and since the universe is infinite in all directions also, there have to be infininte amount of black matter also to cover it all, the theory is that it just stretches, and stretches, until the universe collapses, but I don`t think that`s true, what`s your take on it?

1. There is no such thing as new energy or old energy.
2. Suns aren't formed from black holes
3. There is no such thing as black matter
4. The universe might end in darkness
5. Noone has said that the first sun/energy came from nothing.
6. Noone has said that the universe is infinite in all directions
7. Noone has said that there is an infinite amount of black matter (dark matter/dark energy???)

 

[Techo]

That Noone... so wise and knowledgeable... must have an amazing education.

 

[Diamond72]

so the universe, won`t just end in darkness

God showed me the universe is expanding now, but there will be a time when it will all shrink and come back together again. The Hasidic talk about how the vessel was shattered, but the sparks will be gathered. Science uses the word contract.

 

[stevil]

God showed me the universe is expanding now, but there will be a time when it will all shrink and come back together again. The Hasidic talk about how the vessel was shattered, but the sparks will be gathered. Science uses the word contract.

Rather imagining that god visits you personally and gifts you and only you this knowledge, which is a very lazy and unverifiable way to come into knowledge and of course you think you have the answer but most likely have no idea how to explain it to any knowledgable person other that to say, "well god told me, so there!"
It would be much better to do the leg work, discover the knowledge for yourself. Seek out scientific based sites, books, journals etc. Understand how it actually works so that you not only have the answer, but you could explain it, explain the experiments and observations that have been made and how they distinguish between the three types of universes.

Do the hard yards. If you are too lazy to do that, you really don't deserve a god to just come along and gift it to you. the answer. You learn nothing from being gifted answers.

What shape is the universe?

As far as cosmologists can tell, space is almost perfectly flat. But what does this mean?

astronomy.com

Shape of the universe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Diamond72]

of course you think you have the answer

According to current Science, the Big Crunch is possible, but not probable.

 

[Tjufsen]

God showed me the universe is expanding now, but there will be a time when it will all shrink and come back together again. The Hasidic talk about how the vessel was shattered, but the sparks will be gathered. Science uses the word contract.

It`s easy to disprove the expansion-theory, because since the universe is infinite, black matter or energy, have to be infinite in amount also, which doesn`t make sense

 

[Mark Quayle]

Rather imagining that god visits you personally and gifts you and only you this knowledge, which is a very lazy and unverifiable way to come into knowledge and of course you think you have the answer but most likely have no idea how to explain it to any knowledgable person other that to say, "well god told me, so there!"
It would be much better to do the leg work, discover the knowledge for yourself. Seek out scientific based sites, books, journals etc. Understand how it actually works so that you not only have the answer, but you could explain it, explain the experiments and observations that have been made and how they distinguish between the three types of universes.

Do the hard yards. If you are too lazy to do that, you really don't deserve a god to just come along and gift it to you. the answer. You learn nothing from being gifted answers.

What shape is the universe?

As far as cosmologists can tell, space is almost perfectly flat. But what does this mean?

astronomy.com

Shape of the universe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not to defend someone who claims God revealed such a thing to him, but God doesn't gift based upon what a person deserves, but for his own purposes. Other'n that, and perhaps a few implications from "reveal" (if it were so), though, I agree with you.

 

[Yttrium]

It`s easy to disprove the expansion-theory, because since the universe is infinite, black matter or energy, have to be infinite in amount also, which doesn`t make sense

Congratulations on disproving a scientific theory that doesn't exist.

 

[Hans Blaster]

It`s easy to disprove the expansion-theory, because since the universe is infinite, black matter or energy, have to be infinite in amount also, which doesn`t make sense

Or you could just go *MEASURE* it. All you need to do is measure the recession velocities of some nearby galaxies and independently measure the distance and it will be there staring you in the face -- the Universe is expanding and we *MEASURE* it.

 

[stevil]

Not to defend someone who claims God revealed such a thing to him, but God doesn't gift based upon what a person deserves, but for his own purposes. Other'n that, and perhaps a few implications from "reveal" (if it were so), though, I agree with you.

Thanks for clarifying how the belief system goes. I wasn't saying or implying that god is making a decision about what a person deserves. I was offering my own opinion. I personally don't think lazy people deserve to be gifted answers, I prefer them to put some effort and thinking into things. Its the best way to learn and to understand enough so that it sticks.

 

[Questioning Brother]

The universe is a little early, so it haven`t happened yet probably, but when a black hole get`s heavy enough, it collapses, and forms a new sun, all the matter is gathers, all the used energy, makes it heavier, and heavier, all matter is energy, and when the sun burns, it makes old energy, old energy have a little mass to it, that`s also how planets can have more mass, than it seems possible without saying it`s from black matter, yes, I don`t really believe in dark energy, or black matter, but you have something called old energy which forms when sun burns, that old energy gathers around planets because of gravity, so there`s the explaination of how it can stay together, so the universe, won`t just end in darkness, there`s always black holes that`ll form a new sun again, but a downside to the theory of traveling through a wormhole though, since black holes just gathers mass until it collapses, there`s no tunnelling, and also, since the first sun/energy, came to be from nothing, there`s perhaps, a chance, it`ll happen again, and since the universe is infinite in all directions also, there have to be infininte amount of black matter also to cover it all, the theory is that it just stretches, and stretches, until the universe collapses, but I don`t think that`s true, what`s your take on it?

1) Early? How so?
2) Energy Transforms, but is neither lost nor created. We have the exact same amount of energy we started with.
3) Matter is NOT energy. They behave differently. Mass has an energy equivalent, and can be transformed into energy, but they are discreet classifications.
4) The energy the sun puts out is due to nuclear fusion.
5) There is now old energy around planets. Energy is not affected by gravity.
6) Dark matter is simply a form of matter that doesn't radiate light. Otherwise, all the rules for matter apply.
7) Black holes are called black holes because they are so dense and the gravity is so high light cannot escape. They do not form new suns. There is one explanation for the end of life of a black hole that says it gets so heavy that eventually it compresses everything into a super dense, super hot point approximately the size of an atom that tears through into another dimension. This theory posits that that is where the Bog Bang comes from.
8) Wormholes are science fiction.

Take some actual science classes. They will help you understand much of the questions you are asking about.

Questioning brother
Science Teacher, B.S. Geology/Physics