Healing the sick and taking in the lost. Ezekiel 34

[soldier of light]

Here is some good scripture to meditate on. I'm pretty sick when I get around people's religious and political complaints, divisions, fears, worries and strife. I need healing instead. Jesus said don't worry but to seek the kingdom and God will provide everything we need. That's what I live and preach. I don't preach corrupt politicians. I'm going to try my best to stay away. I need clean water and pasture not the filth of politics and religious strife.

Ezekiel 34:4 You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bound up the injured. You have not brought back the strays or searched for the lost. You have ruled them harshly and brutally. 5 So they were scattered because there was no shepherd, and when they were scattered they became food for all the wild animals. 6 My sheep wandered over all the mountains and on every high hill. They were scattered over the whole earth, and no one searched or looked for them.

17 ‘And as for you, O My flock, thus says the Lord God: “Behold, I shall judge between sheep and sheep, between rams and goats. 18 Is it too little for you to have eaten up the good pasture, that you must tread down with your feet the residue of your pasture—and to have drunk of the clear waters, that you must foul the residue with your feet? 19 And as for My flock, they eat what you have trampled with your feet, and they drink what you have fouled with your feet.”

20 ‘Therefore thus says the Lord God to them: “Behold, I Myself will judge between the fat and the lean sheep. 21 Because you have pushed with side and shoulder, butted all the weak ones with your horns, and scattered them abroad,

22 therefore I will save My flock, and they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep. 23 I will establish one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them—My servant David. He shall feed them and be their shepherd. 24 And I, the Lord, will be their God, and My servant David a prince among them; I, the Lord, have spoken.

 

[timewerx]

You seem desperate for healing so I'm going straight to the point.

What's holding supernatural healing back is we're still holding on to (having firm grip) or fighting for something that belongs to this world. To most people, that's money, possessions, family/relationships, career, food, leisure, comfort, security, achievements, entitlement, pride, wrong beliefs, faith in the wrong things, the desire to be happy, and finally, our very own life.

You have to open your eyes, open your mind to make sure you're not holding on to any of those.

Just to make myself clear, I'm not saying we abandon these things especially the important ones like family and our jobs. We don't abandon our families and our jobs. Just we don't sin, we don't angry or at other people due to these things. Like you don't get angry because someone scratched your brand new car or someone cut you off in traffic. You don't get angry because someone made a huge mistake at your company and you lost a fortune. You don't get angry because the waiter got your order wrong. You don't agree at someone because they're wearing clothes that is out of fashion or cheap.

It may seem like you're allowing people to just step on you without complaining. It probably is. But most people don't realize other people make mistakes unintentionally or out of their usually unfortunate circumstances. We should give people our understanding, not our judgement and our anger.

Anyway, this could give you peace of mind that receiving supernatural *physical* healing is not the most important thing in the world, not even remotely close. The most important thing is still believing in the Lord and desiring to know the truth.

 

[soldier of light]

You seem desperate for healing so I'm going straight to the point.

What's holding supernatural healing back is we're still holding on to (having firm grip) or fighting for something that belongs to this world. To most people, that's money, possessions, family/relationships, career, food, leisure, comfort, security, achievements, entitlement, pride, wrong beliefs, faith in the wrong things, the desire to be happy, and finally, our very own life.

You have to open your eyes, open your mind to make sure you're not holding on to any of those.

Just to make myself clear, I'm not saying we abandon these things especially the important ones like family and our jobs. We don't abandon our families and our jobs. Just we don't sin, we don't angry or at other people due to these things. Like you don't get angry because someone scratched your brand new car or someone cut you off in traffic. You don't get angry because someone made a huge mistake at your company and you lost a fortune. You don't get angry because the waiter got your order wrong. You don't agree at someone because they're wearing clothes that is out of fashion or cheap.

It may seem like you're allowing people to just step on you without complaining. It probably is. But most people don't realize other people make mistakes unintentionally or out of their usually unfortunate circumstances. We should give people our understanding, not our judgement and our anger.

Anyway, this could give you peace of mind that receiving supernatural *physical* healing is not the most important thing in the world, not even remotely close. The most important thing is still believing in the Lord and desiring to know the truth.

The only thing that causes me grief is divisions. It's like reopening wounds. I have great peace and joy by myself. Why should I burden myself with other people's worldly divisions?

 

[soldier of light]

Could you imagine if this was a church and how dysfunctional it would be? I don't want to say things that cause quarreling. I dint want to complain. I need agreement instead. I want my words to be perfect like scripture said. But I feel like I'm in a warzone here. I just want to get away. On Facebook I control what I see and say. I have no divisions to cause me grief.

 

[timewerx]

Could you imagine if this was a church and how dysfunctional it would be? I don't want to say things that cause quarreling. I dint want to complain. I need agreement instead. I want my words to be perfect like scripture said. But I feel like I'm in a warzone here. I just want to get away. On Facebook I control what I see and say. I have no divisions to cause me grief.

Actually, the church would be as chaotic as this forum if the church allowed the audience to interrupt the preacher at any time to ask questions or even to disagree.

Ironically, Jesus did not stop His audiences from interrupting His preaching to ask Him questions, voice their concerns, and event to disagree, and even to walk out entirely.

If that bothers you, and you wish to control people in your space, then it seems you're still holding on to something (you shouldn't) quite firmly. As I wrote earlier, it could be one of the things blocking your physical healing by supernatural means.

If you're really serious about supernatural healing since you wrote many threads with the title suggesting the discussion is about healing. I'm telling how and ironically, I used to have similar afflictions as you had. PTSD, brain damage, etc and I received supernatural healing. No meds, no doctor, no shrink, no hospital, no clinic. The healthcare industry did not make a single dime from me.

If this discussion bothers you, just tell me and I'll stop posting in your threads.

 

[soldier of light]

Actually, the church would be as chaotic as this forum if the church allowed the audience to interrupt the preacher at any time to ask questions or even to disagree.

Ironically, Jesus did not stop His audiences from interrupting His preaching to ask Him questions, voice their concerns, and event to disagree, and even to walk out entirely.

If that bothers you, and you wish to control people in your space, then it seems you're still holding on to something (you shouldn't) quite firmly. As I wrote earlier, it could be one of the things blocking your physical healing by supernatural means.

If you're really serious about supernatural healing since you wrote many threads with the title suggesting the discussion is about healing. I'm telling how and ironically, I used to have similar afflictions as you had. PTSD, brain damage, etc and I received supernatural healing. No meds, no doctor, no shrink, no hospital, no clinic. The healthcare industry did not make a single dime from me.

If this discussion bothers you, just tell me and I'll stop posting in your threads.

Paul said that things should be done orderly. He said to have absolutely no divisions. Disorder and divisions are like the dirty water and pasture that Ezekiel mentioned. If you can't see that then what advice can you give me?

I'm glad that you were healed but many are not. You gloating over them doesn't help them heal. You are supposed to support the weak, share their burdens, and weep with those who weep. So again, if you can't see this truth then what advice can you give me?

You are not healing anyone. You're more like the fat sheep butting the weak ones out of their way. Read the scripture again. They are weak but you are so strong! You are healthy but they're weak! Paul became weak for those who are weak. What are you doing?

Ezekiel 34:20 ‘Therefore thus says the Lord God to them: “Behold, I Myself will judge between the fat and the lean sheep. 21 Because you have pushed with side and shoulder, butted all the weak ones with your horns, and scattered them abroad,

 

[timewerx]

I'm glad that you were healed but many are not. You gloating over them doesn't help them heal. You are supposed to support the weak, share their burdens, and weep with those who weep. So again, if you can't see this truth then what advice can you give me?

You are not healing anyone. You're more like the fat sheep butting the weak ones out of their way. Read the scripture again. They are weak but you are so strong! You are healthy but they're weak! Paul became weak for those who are weak. What are you doing?

I think you misunderstood what being "weak" or being "strong" means in the Bible because Paul:

Acts 19:11-12
11 God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.

Maybe Paul being "strong" and then becoming "weak" had to do with his worldly wealth? Remember that Paul is highly educated (very expensive at the time), a Roman Citizen (may require wealth and influence to have), and formerly Pharisee (who have preferential treatment to the rich). His credentials likely indicated he was quite well-off or even a rich man. And when He became a Christian, Paul led a life of poverty. Just to be clear, I'm not saying we should all be poor. I'm not trying to promote a "poverty gospel".

Anyway, it seems I'm no longer welcome here so I'm leaving your thread but you can always PM me later if you need anything about supernatural healing.

 

[soldier of light]

I think you misunderstood what being "weak" or being "strong" means in the Bible because Paul:

Acts 19:11-12
11 God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.

Maybe Paul being "strong" and then becoming "weak" had to do with his worldly wealth? Remember that Paul is highly educated (very expensive at the time), a Roman Citizen (may require wealth and influence to have), and formerly Pharisee (who have preferential treatment to the rich). His credentials likely indicated he was quite well-off or even a rich man. And when He became a Christian, Paul led a life of poverty. Just to be clear, I'm not saying we should all be poor. I'm not trying to promote a "poverty gospel".

Anyway, it seems I'm no longer welcome here so I'm leaving your thread but you can always PM me later if you need anything about supernatural healing.

I'm glad that you're rich in your heart with everything you need. So am I. But God put empathy in my heart. He said to share the burdens of others. If you don't want to share my burdens but instead to gloat over me, then yes, please go away.

 

[soldier of light]

I think you misunderstood what being "weak" or being "strong" means in the Bible because Paul:

Acts 19:11-12
11 God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.

Maybe Paul being "strong" and then becoming "weak" had to do with his worldly wealth? Remember that Paul is highly educated (very expensive at the time), a Roman Citizen (may require wealth and influence to have), and formerly Pharisee (who have preferential treatment to the rich). His credentials likely indicated he was quite well-off or even a rich man. And when He became a Christian, Paul led a life of poverty. Just to be clear, I'm not saying we should all be poor. I'm not trying to promote a "poverty gospel".

Anyway, it seems I'm no longer welcome here so I'm leaving your thread but you can always PM me later if you need anything about supernatural healing.

I'm not promoting poverty either but James did say that the poor are rich in faith. Dont shame to poor or the afflicted please. Don't gloat over them.

 

[soldier of light]

 

[soldier of light]

I think you misunderstood what being "weak" or being "strong" means in the Bible because Paul:

Acts 19:11-12
11 God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.

Maybe Paul being "strong" and then becoming "weak" had to do with his worldly wealth? Remember that Paul is highly educated (very expensive at the time), a Roman Citizen (may require wealth and influence to have), and formerly Pharisee (who have preferential treatment to the rich). His credentials likely indicated he was quite well-off or even a rich man. And when He became a Christian, Paul led a life of poverty. Just to be clear, I'm not saying we should all be poor. I'm not trying to promote a "poverty gospel".

Anyway, it seems I'm no longer welcome here so I'm leaving your thread but you can always PM me later if you need anything about supernatural healing.

I think I owe you an apology. You were only sharing what you believe, so please forgive my words. Sometimes people do gloat over you though. I actually have a lot of peace and joy when I'm not around religious and political contentions.
So in a way love in the Spirit is my cure or daily medication perhaps.

This doesn't mean I'll never struggle though. Look at Job. Are you promising Job healing? Isn't it God who heals and bruises? Can you undo what God has done? It's just another aspect to consider. Paul had a thorn in the flesh, can you supernaturally heal that if God said no?

 

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[timewerx]

I think I owe you an apology. You were only sharing what you believe, so please forgive my words. Sometimes people do gloat over you though. I actually have a lot of peace and joy when I'm not around religious and political contentions.
So in a way love in the Spirit is my cure or daily medication perhaps.

I'm going to forgive you but I'm leaving this thread and this will be my last post here. I don't think I'm the right person to help you in your unique situation.

I feel like me trying to help you might only make things worse.

 

[soldier of light]

I'm going to forgive you but I'm leaving this thread and this will be my last post here. I don't think I'm the right person to help you in your unique situation.

I feel like me trying to help you might only make things worse.

I've never seen a person without arms and legs get healing. I guess they're without faith. Forgive me but I don't believe physical healing is promised. I think its spiritual healing that is promised and i have that. My mental problems are physical not spiritual. If you had healing faith then you could heal me too. I dont need any of your doctrine just your prayer. The prayer of the righteous avails much. So please feel free to pray.

 

[soldier of light]

I'm going to forgive you but I'm leaving this thread and this will be my last post here. I don't think I'm the right person to help you in your unique situation.

I feel like me trying to help you might only make things worse.

I actually believe I could be healed in a loving environment. I have great peace and joy but things around me trigger anxiety. I think my condition needs treatment not a miracle. But if I'm wrong then please feel free to pray. The prayer of the righteous avails much. No fancy doctrine just prayer.

 

[soldier of light]

People promise you healing but it doesn't come, so you're left with a broken heart and no faith. Surely you must not have faith if you don't get healed. Right? Surely I should replace my joy with worry because my faith must be false.

 

[soldier of light]

I'm not falling away. I might be sick but I will obey the Lord anyway. If I have to stay away from people to have joy and peace then that's what I'll have to do.

 

[soldier of light]

Who knows why people even get sick. It could be their environment or the poisonous food they sell us. It could be in the water. Paul told Timothy to take wine for his stomach and his often infirmities. No healing, just wine. People are like a disease as well. They infect you with their hate and cause mental illness.