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Fahrenheit 451

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Has anyone ever read it? I re-read it for the first time in probably 7 years and the whole book almost seems like an intellectual take on the "Sodom and Gomorrah" story from the Old Testament. I like the fact that Ray Bradbury uses quotes from Ecclesiastes and Revelation.

I think the whole concept of the book was interesting. In a way the setting is like a theocracy, but more an atheistic theocracy. A pleasure and materialistic-seeking culture...hhm, sounds familiar I think?

I don't know if I can think of any Catholic/Christian sci-fi off the top of my head besides "A Canticle for (of?) Leibowitz" and "Voyage to Alpha Centauri", both of which I have not read. There's another book called "The Sparrow" but the characters appear to be completely not realistic and I think the author did a bad job at trying to write Catholic characters. She isn't Catholic I guess, which isn't surprising.
 

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It's been over 40 years since I read it, but I also saw it more a precautionary tale akin to Orwell's 1984. Remember it was written in 1953, when writers feared totalitarianism in general and feared both Communism and the anti-Communist measures of Joseph McCarthy. Both groups promoted the repression of literature they deemed politically incorrect.
 
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The thing I find funny about Fahrenheit 451 is that it is about how materialism and cheap entertainment lead people to forget about everything that is important in life (like reading books), but it is praised by people who claim that it is about the dangers of censorship and are amazed when Bradbury says its about his distaste for modern entertainment (thus showing that many praising it never actually read the book).

If you are looking for Catholic science fiction, Gene Wolfe's Solar Cycle (The Shadow of the Torturer, The Claw of the Conciliator, The Sword of the Lictor, The Citadel of the Autarch, The Urth of the New Sun, Nightside the Long Sun, Lake of the Long Sun, Calde of the Long Sun, Exodus from the Long Sun, On Blue's Waters, In Green's Jungles and finally Return to the Whorl) is probably the best that there is. The Catholic themes are subtle at first but pretty unmissable by the end of the ride. I particularly like it because the character of Silk, more or less the hero of the last seven books, is a good portrayal of someone who is probably a saint and his struggle to know God is very relateable. It's also kind of fun how the series initially seems to be intensely anti-Catholic (for example, the first protagonist is a member of an order of torturers who have many aesthetic similarities to Catholic priests), but under the surface it is fundamentally Catholic. There are many blatant biblical parallels that you will probably miss on the first read, and many biblical parallels that mean something other than what you might think on the first read.

It's a long series, so don't buy it all at once. If you don't like the first book, Nightside the Long Sun is an appropriate jumping in point, and it is more explicitly Catholic from the first line. (The main character receives an epiphany from what is pretty clearly the real God to a Catholic reader, even though the character is a priest of many false gods. The book is primarily about his response to this event.)

Another very strong piece of Catholic fiction is Eifelheim by Michael Flynn, which is essentially about an alien ship crash landing in medieval Germany.

A book with a similar theme, but not written by a Catholic, is The High Crusade by Poul Anderson. Here the aliens arrive in England, are malevolent, but the English manage to turn the tables on them and bring the fight to their homeworlds. Overall Catholicism is handled pretty well, even though Poul Anderson was certainly not Catholic.

John C. Wright is a Catholic author (formerly atheist) that I enjoy very much, but I can't think of a story of his which is at its core as Catholic as the above. Catholicism plays an important role in the Count to a Trillion series, but as the only players on stage who are strongly Catholic are two villains and the main character is really only nominally so it might not feel like a "Catholic Science Fiction" series. At least, not to the extent that A Canticle for Leibowitz (about Catholic monks) or Gene Wolfe's solar cycle (filled with religious imagery, even if it is not always obvious) are.
 
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I enjoyed the book. I bought it twice, because I lost a copy at a mets, yankees game a few years back.


It came with a forward and Bradbury clearly said what his whole point was: the dangers of political correctness. He said that society was becoming so afraid of offending every little group, that history, news, and literature were being sanitized. He said if this continues, eventually they will just get right to the point and instead of removing sections of books (like the N word from Huck Finn) they'll just burn the books outright.

The man was a prophet, very few people get something that right decades in advance, but just as Anthony Burgess said in his book 1985, often the dystopias just magnify the problems of their present. However, whatever seeds of PC culture existed in 1950 have really grown today, so Bradbury's tale is becoming reality.
 
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I liked Bradbury's Something Wicked This Way Comes better, but Fahrenheit 451 was good. Bradbury has the ability to make his prose almost like poetry, and that's captivating. Even though he uses Christian imagery a lot, it's almost always only aesthetic; the images are usually dismissed by the characters. 451 is an except, I think, since the fireman ends up becoming the Book of Ecclesiastes.
 
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I liked Bradbury's Something Wicked This Way Comes better, but Fahrenheit 451 was good. Bradbury has the ability to make his prose almost like poetry, and that's captivating. Even though he uses Christian imagery a lot, it's almost always only aesthetic; the images are usually dismissed by the characters. 451 is an except, I think, since the fireman ends up becoming the Book of Ecclesiastes.

I like both of those books :)

they are very different, I never even thought of comparing the two even though they were written by the same man
I read Something Wicked This Way Comes when I was a freshman in high school and I read Fahrenheit 451 when I was a senior in hs and again in college
 
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