Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano

[geocajun]

http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/lanciano.html



Ancient Anxanum, the city of the Frentanese, has contained for over twelve centuries the first and greatest Eucharistic Miracle of the Catholic Church. This wondrous Event took place in the 8th century A.D. in the little Church of St. Legontian, as a divine response to a Basilian monk's doubt about Jesus' Real Presence in the Eucharist.

During Holy Mass, after the two-fold consecration, the host was changed into live Flesh and the wine was changed into live Blood, which coagulated into five globules, irregular and differing in shape and size.

The Host-Flesh, as can be very distinctly observed today, has the same dimensions as the large host used today in the Latin church; it is light brown and appears rose-colored when lighted from the back.

The Blood is coagulated and has an earthy color resembling the yellow of ochre.

Various ecclesiastical investigation ("Recognitions") were conducted since 1574.

In 1970-'71 and taken up again partly in 1981 there took place a scientific investigation by the most illustrious scientist Prof. Odoardo Linoli, eminent Professor in Anatomy and Pathological Histology and in Chemistry and Clinical Microscopy. He was assisted by Prof. Ruggero Bertelli of the University of Siena.

The analyses were conducted with absolute and unquestionable scientific precision and they were documented with a series of microscopic photographs.
These analyses sustained the following conclusions:

• The Flesh is real Flesh. The Blood is real Blood.
• The Flesh and the Blood belong to the human species.
• The Flesh consists of the muscular tissue of the heart.
• In the Flesh we see present in section: the myocardium, the endocardium, the vagus nerve and also the left ventricle of the heart for the large thickness of the myocardium.
• The Flesh is a "HEART" complete in its essential structure.
• The Flesh and the Blood have the same blood-type: AB (Blood-type identical to that which Prof. Baima Bollone uncovered in the Holy Shroud of Turin).
• In the Blood there were found proteins in the same normal proportions (percentage-wise) as are found in the sero-proteic make-up of the fresh normal blood.
• In the Blood there were also found these minerals: chlorides, phosphorus, magnesium, potassium, sodium and calcium.
• The preservation of the Flesh and of the Blood, which were left in their natural state for twelve centuries and exposed to the action of atmospheric and biological agents, remains an extraordinary phenomenon.

 

[geocajun]

a picture from the site above.

 

[geocajun]

The Monstrance at Lanciano

 

[Matthan]

(2nd Corinthians 11:12-15)

"But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

(2nd Corinthians 4:3-4)

"But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

God gives us His Truth. It is up to us to believe that Truth, or not.

Matthan <J><

 

[geocajun]

I'm not sure what your getting at Matthan? are you not of the opinion that God works miracles or something?

 

[YahwehLove]

I'm not sure what your getting at Matthan? are you not of the opinion that God works miracles or something?

I think hes like I am.....show me.

Id like to see the analysis results myself (from a scientific source) AND Id like to have PROOF that no one with motives was ever left alone with the items in question.

Sorry, protestants are an inquisitive bunch.

We've seen all the ''miracles'' from our own kind that turn out to be fraudulent.
We'll not likely just take yours without something a bit more substancial than what youve provided.

 

[geocajun]

YL, by all means, investigate this miracle. The good news is that folks have been investigating this very miracle, and substantiating it for hundreds of years

 

[YahwehLove]

YL, by all means, investigate this miracle. The good news is that folks have been investigating this very miracle, and substantiating it for hundreds of years

What folks?

Give me a scientific link that shows absolutely that no one could have tampered with the items before hand.

I believe in miracles, my life is one.
But we are told to test everything...and I will.

Please direct me to a NON-catholic source to examine if you will

 

[geocajun]

This is a record of some of the studies: http://www.cmns.mnegri.it/miracolo/tableofcontents.html

 

[YahwehLove]

This is a record of some of the studies: http://www.cmns.mnegri.it/miracolo/tableofcontents.html

that site is hardly unbiased.
Any other ones?

 

[Diane_Windsor]

I'm not sure what your getting at Matthan? are you not of the opinion that God works miracles or something?

Of course God can work miracles, however; can you proove that this "miracle" is from God Almighty? Even if, and that is a big if, this host is real flesh and blood, that no one tampered with it, etc. it still does not proove that this is a "miracle" that God performed. On the contrary, I strongly suspect that these so-called "miracles" are from Satan himself, and that he is using it to deceive many people. As Paul states above "Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

YahwehLove, you might want to visit Skeptic Magazine-they might have something on "Eucharistic Miracles".

DW

 

[Diane_Windsor]

YahwehLove,

After doing some searching I fianlly came across this. It is a critique of a lecture a Danish RC author (Niels Christian Hvidt) gave at a small Dutch church:

Eucharistic miracle in Lanciano


Claim: Around the year 700 in Lanciano, Italy, a monk, weak in faith, witnessed the hosties turn into flesh and the wine into blood. Some moments passed before he turned to those around him and proclaimed that the change had taken place. The flesh and blood were sealed in containers and subsequent investigations showed that the substances were indeed human flesh (a slice from a heart) and blood. The blood type is, incidentally, the same as the Shroud of Turin (AB). The flesh should have deteriorated by now, had it been normal flesh. The blood has coagulated into lumps. It has been claimed that it was not possible in 700 to have cut such a thin slice of a human heart.

Problems:

• The core of the miracle is the transformation of the bread and wine into flesh and blood. But only one man witnessed it, while nobody else (apparently) was close enough to discover the transformation. Therefore, a simple switch could easily have taken place. Sleight-of-hand, and you have a miracle.
• It is therefore of relatively little importance how well the flesh and blood are preserved. There are many examples of various degrees of mummification and dehydration of flesh, especially if the flesh has not been exposed all that much to the open air or moisture.
• We have no way of knowing if the flesh and blood have been changed to new samples over the years.
• It is absolutely possible to have cut a thin slice of a human heart in 700 - just freeze the heart first, then cut it.
• Hvidt gives two different periods when this has happened, 700 and 750. If he isn't even sure when it happened, how can he be sure that it happened at all?

The article also critiques the Eucharistic miracle of San Gennaro, and other "miracles".

DW

 

[Veritas]

YL, by all means, investigate this miracle. The good news is that folks have been investigating this very miracle, and substantiating it for hundreds of years

Praise be to God! The Gospel truly is a stumbling block for some. I get the distinct impression that if Jesus were with us today, they would have hard time believing in His healing of the paralytic, the blind, demon possesed, feeding the 5,000 and especially from rising from the dead. They'd be asking, "where's the medical proof this person was actually blind or paralyzed". "How do we really know Jesus was dead?" It's called faith.

 

[SolomonVII]

Of course God can work miracles, however; can you proove that this "miracle" is from God Almighty? Even if, and that is a big if, this host is real flesh and blood, that no one tampered with it, etc. it still does not proove that this is a "miracle" that God performed. On the contrary, I strongly suspect that these so-called "miracles" are from Satan himself, and that he is using it to deceive many people. As Paul states above "Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

YahwehLove, you might want to visit

Skeptic Magazine-they might have something on "Eucharistic Miracles".

With no personal opinion on my behalf on whether this is a true miracle or not , what would be Satan's motivation possibly be in performing such a miracle? (I almost dread to ask..).

I can understand Satan's motivation in fostering skeptism about God in general, but performing a miracle that could only be conceived as fostering belief in HIs Son...?

This satanic objection seems to be pharisaic, such as accusatons that demons could cast out demons.

 

[Veritas]

Of course God can work miracles, however; can you proove that this "miracle" is from God Almighty? Even if, and that is a big if, this host is real flesh and blood, that no one tampered with it, etc. it still does not proove that this is a "miracle" that God performed. On the contrary, I strongly suspect that these so-called "miracles" are from Satan himself, and that he is using it to deceive many people. As Paul states above "Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

YahwehLove, you might want to visit Skeptic Magazine-they might have something on "Eucharistic Miracles".

DW

You have to look at what the fruit of the miracle is. If it leads to greater faith in Christ or an attraction to the devil. All of the Eucharistic miracles have served to deepen people's faith. That's the real "proof". And besides, these "skeptics" as I already pointed out are likely to be the same ones who wouldn't believe in Christ's miracles during His time on earth either. Why side with them???

 

[thereselittleflower]

geo, this miracle is an incredible one . . .

When I was investigating it a few years back, I had come across some interesting information about the analysis' that were done . . .

(edited as I had this one mixed up with something else)

If I can find that information on the net again, I will post it . .. However, this is astounding . . . I am amazed at the miracles that exist confirming the Real Presence of Our Lord.


Peace in Him!

 

[thereselittleflower]

I see that the source has already been presented above . . and what I was surprised to find was how closely the blood sample resembled fresh blood in some of the tests . . .


As far as where this has been published outside of Catholic circles, the book that was linked to above gives this information . . . The same year that tests were conducted in 1971, the results were published in a scientific medical journal:

LINOLI O. - Ricerche istologiche, Immunologiche e Biochimiche sulla Carne e sul Sangue del Miracolo Eucaristico di Lanciano (VIII secolo) - Quaderni Sclavo di Diagnostica 1971, 7, 661-674.
​

It is in Itallian . . . the results are presented in English in the book linked to earlier . .

Now, if people want to be dismissive because it is in Latin and not in english, well, then I think that biases are showing more than anything . . . . .



Peace in Him!

 

[Wild_Fan4Christ]

Here is another one...
http://home.inreach.com/bstanley/miracle.htm

"Behold, you scoffers, and wonder, and perish;
for I do a deed in your days, a deed you will never believe, if one declares it to you."
Habakkuk 1:5

 

[Matthan]

The one question seemingly overlooked is WHY? According to this tale, one monk low on faith sees what was bread changed into real human flesh, and what was wine changed into real human blood. But, why would God do such a thing? To strengthen the faith of one monk? Highly doubtful, if you ask most rational persons of faith. Take a look at miracles we know came from God. How many of them were witnessed by just one person? And, why did Jesus (or God, or the apostles) do those miracles?

More importantly, how many miracles are recorded after the apostolic age? I read Augustine, and Tertullian, and a bunch of others, and not one of them so much as mentions witnessing or even hearing about miracles. Why not? Could it be what Paul told us? That we walk by faith, and not by sight? Because our faith is in Jesus as the Christ of God, we do not need to see any "visible" head of Christ's Church on earth. We do not need to see "relics" of dead Christians (or pagans for that matter, as are (apparently) all of the bones found so far buried under St. Peter's Basilica). True Christians do not need to see miracles (like Mary's face in the bark of a tree or an uneated half of a grilled cheese sandwich. Their faith in Jesus as our Lord is completely sufficient for their (our) souls.

I remember reading about another "miracle" that happened somewhere in Italy, I believe. A "beautiful" icon came down from Heaven. It was considered so beautiful that the church officials declared it had to be made by the loving hands of Christ Himself! Yeah, right! Oh, I fully realize that many, many individuals probably believe that was another "miracle" from God. And, I feel so very sorry for each and every one of them, too.

There is one scientific test that I notice has never been performed. Where is the DNA report for that flesh and/or that blood? Now, I realize that satan is quite capable of doing all sorts of miracles in order to delude folks who want to believe in Jesus but do not go about that belief in the right way. But, I seriously doubt even the great disceiver could fake real DNA. So, where's the beef? Show me the DNA evidence, and then ask me to judge this "miracle." Until then I'll believe Paul.

Matthan <J><

 

[SolomonVII]

The denial of transubstantiation was a product of the rationalist thought of the enlightenment mind. Skepticism and demands for scientific proof are consistent with such a mindset, and indeed, most today would acknowledge such critical thinking and demands as worthy endeavors.

However, to suppose a miracle as being the work of Satan rather is to again irrationally descend even deeper into the superstitions and naivete that the Enlightenment and Reformation were supposedly meant to deliver us from.

I suppose though, such is the nature of the world. Scoffers and non-believers will always demand proofs for evidence of God working in our lives. Yet not proof can ever suffice to persuade the hardened heart of the cynic.
Conversely, the world itself provides more than adequate evidence for the existence of Satan. Proof for the existence of such an entity is only to painfully obvious to all of us.

If DNA were sufficient proof for anything, OJ Simpson would have gone down. But there will be absolutely no proof to satisfy those with an agenda.