Ethics of anti evolution arguments

[Astrid]

We observe that virtually all such arguments are simply
falsehoods, either made up by the poster, or, borrowed
from someone else who made them up.

How can this behaviour be consistent with
any moral code?

 

[B Griffin]

We observe that virtually all such arguments are simply
falsehoods, either made up by the poster, or, borrowed
from someone else who made them up.

How can this behaviour be consistent with
any moral code?

You're looking in a mirror, or just projecting?

 

[Laodicean60]

How can this behaviour be consistent with
any moral code?

Not sure but your moral code is to come here and bash Christians.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

We observe that virtually all such arguments are simply
falsehoods, either made up by the poster, or, borrowed
from someone else who made them up.

How can this behaviour be consistent with
any moral code?

Why would moral philosophy have any connection with evolution?

 

[trophy33]

We observe that virtually all such arguments are simply
falsehoods, either made up by the poster, or, borrowed
from someone else who made them up.

How can this behaviour be consistent with
any moral code?

I guess that many mistaken Christians simply do not know they are mistaken.

And the ones who know they are talking falsehood or creating straw men or doing something similarly wrong, do it because they believe their goal is just, even though the route to it is intellectually dishonest. Some kind of a misguided chivalry ("I will defend God/church/favorite website... and I will invent things to do it").

 

[Larniavc]

We observe that virtually all such arguments are simply
falsehoods, either made up by the poster, or, borrowed
from someone else who made them up.

How can this behaviour be consistent with
any moral code?

The ends justifies the means I guess. Some uncharitable folks on other forums sometimes call it ‘lying for Jesus’.

I wouldn’t go that far but sometimes it’s tempting.

 

[Larniavc]

Why would moral philosophy have any connection with evolution?

So often it boils down to ‘something something then you support abortion!’

Or: ‘something something tool of Satan’.

 

[NBB]

The dishonesty comes from the unbelievers, some rocks in space can't end up alone, as humans and animals, consciousness and intelligence, and a functioning eco system.
God created everything.

 

[trophy33]

The dishonesty comes from the unbelievers, some rocks in space can't end up alone, as humans and animals, consciousness and intelligence, and a functioning eco system.
God created everything.

Nobody claims we are from rocks. You gave an example of a straw man. The fact that you believe in God does not mean you must make silly comments about the theory of evolution.

BTW if you believe we are from literal dust, its not much better than from rocks.

 

[Astrid]

Not sure but your moral code is to come here and bash Christians.

Aside from being false, and rather mean spirited,
tu quoque is such a childish game.

If a Chridtian robs a bank, it’s not bashing Christians
to say he did it.

Christians who post falsehoods- or rob banks-should that be
approved by all Christians?

 

[Laodicean60]

Aside from being false, and rather mean spirited,
tu quoque is such a childish game.

Your actions speak louder than your words.

 

[BCP1928]

Your actions speak louder than your words.

Yes, they do. You should listen. There are many Christians active in these forums never bashed by Astrid. She has even shown sympathy to Christians bashed by creationists.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Many professional creationists have been informed, multiple times, that their use of selective quotation is deceptive, or their use of arguments like "If men came from monkeys why are there still monkeys?" betray a critical misunderstanding of the facts and theory of evolution.

By and large, they persist in propagating these things.

Either they are incapable of understanding, or they are knowingly denying a fact.

To deny a fact knowingly is to lie.
From Webster’s Dictionary 1828: “Fact”

See also Pious Fraud:

Pious fraud (Latin: pia fraus) is used to describe fraud in religion or medicine. A pious fraud can be counterfeiting a miracle or falsely attributing a sacred text to a biblical figure due to the belief that the "end justifies the means", in this case the end of increasing faithby whatever means available.

 

[Laodicean60]

Yes, they do. You should listen. There are many Christians active in these forums never bashed by Astrid. She has even shown sympathy to Christians bashed by creationists.

I have been here for a whole year on the Christian forum whether Estrid or Astrid bashing my belief system on a Christian forum. It's the little comments like this:

Are there any facts contrary to T.O.E?
There's an awful lot of missing data in Jesus life. Or the history of Rome. As evidence contrary to Jesus having lived at all, it stinks.
Astrid Post #207 Aug 7, 2024 Forum: Physical & Life Sciences

I'm still waiting for your solution to the human trafficking issue or do I take your avoidance as the status quo is ok by you.

 

[BCP1928]

I have been here for a whole year on the Christian forum whether Estrid or Astrid bashing my belief system on a Christian forum. It's the little comments like this:

Are there any facts contrary to T.O.E?
There's an awful lot of missing data in Jesus life. Or the history of Rome. As evidence contrary to Jesus having lived at all, it stinks.
Astrid Post #207 Aug 7, 2024 Forum: Physical & Life Sciences

She's right, you know. But it doesn't matter to me at all, because I'm not trying to use the Bible to prove to atheists that the world was created in 4004 BC or entirely covered with water in 2350.

I'm still waiting for your solution to the human trafficking issue or do I take your avoidance as the status quo is ok by you.

That's another thread in another forum, where I asked you for a solution. But if you want mine, I will post it there. You won't like it.

 

[Laodicean60]

She's right, you know. But it doesn't matter to me at all, because I'm not trying to use the Bible to prove to atheists that the world was created in 4004 BC or entirely covered with water in 2350.

Wrong. Jesus was a living person, as recorded by historians. The rub is whether he was the Son of God or not.

 

[Astrid]

Your actions speak louder than your words.

You know very well I attack nobody for being christian.

I was only speaking of yec arguments against evolution, but
you demonstrating the tendency of some to make things up
in other matters too.

Stay on topic plz.

 

[Astrid]

You're looking in a mirror, or just projecting?

Show me an example of arguments consisting of things I make up.
You cannot.

Show me yec argument against evolution thst is not made up.
You cannot.

But my topic is the ethics of using falsehoods.

 

[Chesterton]

If a Chridtian robs a bank, it’s not bashing Christians
to say he did it.

It can be. If you're a non-Christian welcomed onto a Christian website and continuously make threads on an almost daily basis about Christians doing bad things for years and years as another poster here does...at the very least it's extremely boorish behavior.

 

[Astrid]

I have been here for a whole year on the Christian forum whether Estrid or Astrid bashing my belief system on a Christian forum. It's the little comments like this:

Are there any facts contrary to T.O.E?
There's an awful lot of missing data in Jesus life. Or the history of Rome. As evidence contrary to Jesus having lived at all, it stinks.
Astrid Post #207 Aug 7, 2024 Forum: Physical & Life Sciences

I'm still waiting for your solution to the human trafficking issue or do I take your avoidance as the status quo is ok by you.

Why yes; i wrote that!

Whats the complaint?

it was in response to something about missing
“links” or other data as an argument against evolution.
You should not have deleted that part! Or falsified the quote with italics.

My point was that the missing data is no more an argument
against evolution than it is an argument against Jesus.


im sure it’s an honest mistake on your part so i
won't hold it against you for making it into a false
charge- even though as a charge, against me,
you made that up.