Do the Rothschilds manage the Vatican's money?

[Autumnleaf]

To know if the church is independent of international bankers I was wondering about this. I have a friend who is a conspiracy theorist and he comes up with the craziest ideas sometimes.

 

[SecretOfFatima]

I recommend you read this
http://davidmacd.com/catholic/isn_church_rich.htm

 

[Maynard Keenan]

I think "international bankers" is usually code for "jews" in the conspiracy theories

 

[INLOVEWITHTHEONECHRIST]

Being of Jewish lineage, I always heard and looked down upon those that subscribed to these ideas that Jewish families like the Rothschilds run the world. . .after the Jewish community turned on me, however, I began to give these theories a chance. It may be possible that the Rothschilds manage the Vatican's money, and I've also heard about the slight possibility that the Rothschilds helped fund Adolf Hitler's political movement.

 

[SecretOfFatima]

here is another page that may interest you
http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=8874

 

[Tonks]

This person is confusing the typical conspiracy junk with the the very real Banco Ambrosiano collapse / scandal that the Vatican Bank was involved in during the early 1980s...plenty of actual reporting on that one.

 

[Davidnic]

This person is confusing the typical conspiracy junk with the the very real Banco Ambrosiano collapse / scandal that the Vatican Bank was involved in during the early 1980s...plenty of actual reporting on that one.

Yep.

 

[kepha31]

It's unlikely the Rothschild's own the Central Intelligence Agency who cover up "Vatican wealth" with phoney public reports that a million anti-Catholic reporters can't expose because there is no wealth.


https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/vt.html


Under "budget" in the Economy section, it shows a surplus of about $4 million, and that figure is usually a deficit, as I have been watching it over the years.

Would they feel "better" if Egypt would sell the pyramids, France the Eiffel Tower, China the Wall, etc., etc., to feed their hungry? These people are real jokers, and they really do not know what the "treasures" of the Vatican are ... Maybe if they sell the Sistine Chapel, piece by piece of stone and mortar to another country, they will have more cash to increase their catholic contributions around the world ... Have you ever seen or heard of all the money that goes out of the Vatican to dozens of countries around the world each year to help???? The help goes not only to Catholics, but to all ... "The Vatican Treasures" issue is a really old one ... always used by those that want to put down Catholicism at its roots ... The folks that criticize Catholics and the Vatican would feel much better if the Pope would live in a shack, in rags, and extreme poverty. (observers say he actually lives an austere life of much penance, prayer, and fasting.)Well I have news for them ... The president of Argentina lives in the Pink House, the president of the USA lives in the White House, the Queen of England lives in Buckingham Palace (?), and the Pope lives in the Vatican.

 

[WarriorAngel]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschilds

The Rothschilds were supporters of the State of Israel, and Baron Edmond James de Rothschild was a patron of the first settlement in Palestine at Rishon-LeZion. In 1917 Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild was the addressee of the Balfour Declaration, which committed the British government to the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people. As prominent Jews active in politics as well as business, the Rothschild family has been a target for anti-semitism throughout its history[3]. Many family members were persecuted by the Nazis, and one, Elisabeth de Rothschild, died in Ravensbrück concentration camp; she was a Rothschild only by marriage, and was raised as a Catholic.


Conspiracy theories
Members of the Rothschild family figure in some conspiracy theories. In Illuminati conspiracy theories, they are portrayed as one of thirteen dynastic bloodlines that secretly rule the world. New World Order conspiracy theories present the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, DuPonts, Vanderbilts, Bush family, etc. as the real rulers or would-be rulers of the world.
The acclaimed poet Ezra Pound, in his World War II radio broadcasts from Italy, openly named the Rothschilds as the masters of a clique of banking houses that caused the World Wars in order to profit off of them and get countries in debt to the lending central banks, which Pound claimed the Rothschild interests owned and exercised control of a nation's policy by having the power to issue the nation's money. After World War II, he was tried for treason, but was declared mentally unfit to stand trial and was instead imprisoned in a federal mental hospital for thirteen years. As late as 1935, however, Pound entertained the theory that "organized anti-Semitism might be the hidden war of Swiss Protestant dynasties against the Rothschilds, whom they had never forgiven for breaking into their banking monopoly."[8]


YOU should always be careful about allowing conspiracy theories to implant ideas that are not credible.

IF the family owned the world and financed the Vatican...then wouldn't the Vatican be Jewish?

It doesnt work, it doesnt click, and there is a 2004 annual report in the link i provided from Wikipedia.

 

[geocajun]

Geez you guys, it is not the Rothschilds who manage the Vatican money, it is the Illuminati. Duh

 

[Snowbunny]

To know if the church is independent of international bankers I was wondering about this. I have a friend who is a conspiracy theorist and he comes up with the craziest ideas sometimes.

my cousin celine married into the french rothschild family... her husband and his family are completely ordinary, don't believe conspiracy theories...

 

[WarriorAngel]

lol

 

[Snowbunny]

Being of Jewish lineage, I always heard and looked down upon those that subscribed to these ideas that Jewish families like the Rothschilds run the world. . .after the Jewish community turned on me, however, I began to give these theories a chance. It may be possible that the Rothschilds manage the Vatican's money, and I've also heard about the slight possibility that the Rothschilds helped fund Adolf Hitler's political movement.

not all rothschilds are jewish... i think only the new yorkers are, my cousins' husband is roman catholic so is his family, i think the german branch is protestant

 

[geocajun]

my cousin celine married into the french rothschild family... her husband and his family are completely ordinary, don't believe conspiracy theories...

A couple of things you should know. First of all, Celine isn't your cousin. She is a spy, and they married her off as part of an extraction plan to get her out of the area. Secondly the Rothschild family just wants you to think they are normal. Don't you get it? All this time they have been using you as a covert channel to extract information and at the same time they have you posting about how normal they are on the internet. You are being used!

 

[Snowbunny]

A couple of things you should know. First of all, Celine isn't your cousin. She is a spy, and they married her off as part of an extraction plan to get her out of the area. Secondly the Rothschild family just wants you to think they are normal. Don't you get it? All this time they have been using you as a covert channel to extract information and at the same time they have you posting about how normal they are on the internet. You are being used!

lol she wasn't extracted though, she was french to begin with... but maybe that was just to throw me off...

 

[Globalnomad]

Part of the Rothschild family did convert to Christianity over the last century or so, that is true. But they have never made a secret either of their Jewish origins or of their attachment to Jewish causes. If I remember well, they were important finaciers of the Aliyah (Jewish emigration to Israel during/after the Second World War). Céline should be able to confirm this.

P.S. the fact that they are Jewish is no proof of an international conspiracy, of course.... aside from the fact that the Rothschild banking group is no more than a drop in the ocean of the modern banking system..

 

[Snowbunny]

Part of the Rothschild family did convert to Christianity over the last century or so, that is true. But they have never made a secret either of their Jewish origins or of their attachment to Jewish causes. If I remember well, they were important finaciers of the Aliyah (Jewish emigration to Israel during/after the Second World War). Céline should be able to confirm this.

P.S. the fact that they are Jewish is no proof of an international conspiracy, of course.... aside from the fact that the Rothschild banking group is no more than a drop in the ocean of the modern banking system..

lol i don't think his family gave her 'ye big book of family sekrets' when they married... so i doubt she could confirm anything like that... it's just my observation that they are completely normal people... his family doesn't seem to be interested in all things jewish... he wears j crew and watches soccer in his free time... like every other young european male. he's in shipping... not exactly the plotting, masterminds of world economics they are portrayed as.

actually of the two of them i think my cousins family is much more sketchy, the thyssens built warplanes for the nazis...

that's unfortunate...

 

[Skripper]

Part of the Rothschild family did convert to Christianity over the last century or so, that is true. But they have never made a secret either of their Jewish origins or of their attachment to Jewish causes. If I remember well, they were important finaciers of the Aliyah (Jewish emigration to Israel during/after the Second World War). Céline should be able to confirm this.

P.S. the fact that they are Jewish is no proof of an international conspiracy, of course.... aside from the fact that the Rothschild banking group is no more than a drop in the ocean of the modern banking system..

One step at a time. First figure out the frog-hopping. Then we'll start working on international conspiracies. LOL

Sorry . . . couldn't resist.

 

[geocajun]

One step at a time. First figure out the frog-hopping. Then we'll start working on international conspiracies. LOL

Sorry . . . couldn't resist.

Wow! Someone give this guy a "I passed the frog jumping challenge" t-shirt!

 

[Skripper]

Wow! Someone give this guy a "I passed the frog jumping challenge" t-shirt!

And this guy an "I flunked" one. We can have matching fingers, each pointing at the other, as we walk down the street together. It'll be a hoot.

No need to take it so hard, bro, I'm sure there's other logic-related things you're good at.