Do Pentecostals Accept the Nicene Creed?

[LivingWordUnity]

Here is the Creed:

We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
one in Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
(all bow their heads during the next three lines)
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he was born of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.

For our sake he was crucified
under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered, died, and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in fulfillment of the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son
he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic
and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism
for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.

 

[Dave01]

We accept this one promoted on the site,...


Nicene Creed


We believe in (Romans 10: 8-10; 1 John 4: 15)
ONE God, (Deuteronomy 6: 4, Ephesians 4: 6)
Father (Matthew 6: 9)
Almighty, (Exodus 6: 3)
Maker of Heaven and Earth, (Genesis 1: 1)
and of all things visible and invisible. (Colossians 1: 15-16)

And in ONE Lord Jesus Christ, (Acts 11: 17)
Son of God, (Mathew 14: 33; 16: 16)
Only-Begotten, (John 1: 18; 3: 16)
Begotten of the Father before all ages. (John 1: 2)
Light from Light; (Psalm 27: 1; John 8: 12; Matthew 17: 2,5)
True God from True God; (John 17: 1-5)
Begotten, not made; (John 1: 18)
of one essence with the Father (John 10: 30)
through whom all things were made; (Hebrews 1: 1-2)
Who for us men and for our salvation (1 Timothy 2: 4-5)
came down from heaven, (John 6: 33,35)
and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary (Luke 1: 35)
and became man. (John 1: 14)
And He was crucified for us (Mark 15: 25; 1 Corinthians 15: 3)
under Pontius Pilate, (John 19: 6)
suffered, (Mark 8: 31)
and was buried. (Luke 23: 53; 1 Corinthians 15: 4)
And on the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures, (Luke 24: 1 1 Corinthians 15: 4)
and ascended into heaven, (Luke 24: 51; Acts 1: 10)
and sits at the right hand of the Father; (Mark 16: 19; Acts 7: 55)
and He shall come again with glory (Matthew 24: 27)
to judge the living and the dead; (Acts 10: 42; 2 Timothy 4: 1)
Whose Kingdom shall have no end. (2 Peter 1: 11)

And in the Holy Spirit, (John 14: 26)
Lord, (Acts 5: 3-4)
Giver of Life, (Genesis 1: 2)
Who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]*; (John 15: 26)
Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; (Matthew 3: 16-17)
Who spoke through the prophets. (1 Samuel 19: 20; Ezekiel 11: 5,13)

In one, (Matthew 16: 18)
holy, (1 Peter 2: 5,9)
catholic**, (Mark 16: 15)
and apostolic Church. (Acts 2: 42; Ephesians 2: 19-22)

I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins***. (Ephesians 4: 5; Acts 2: 38)
I look for the resurrection of the dead, (John 11: 24; 1 Corinthians 15: 12-49; Hebrews 6: 2; Revelation 20: 5)
and the life in the age to come. (Mark 10: 29-30)

AMEN. (Psalm 106: 48)

*The phrase in square brackets [and the Son] (known as the filioque clause) is not compulsory and does not need to be affirmed by members.

**The word "catholic" (literally, "universal") refers to the universal church of the Lord Jesus Christ and not necessarily or exclusively to any particular visible denomination or institution.

***This can be interpreted to mean that baptism is a matter of obedience and not a requirement for salvation or a regenerating ordinance.

 

[Solidlyhere]

Do Pentecostals Accept the Nicene Creed?

So, Living, do YOU believe in the Nicene Creed that you quoted?

 

[bithiah2]

Here is the Creed:

We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
one in Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
(all bow their heads during the next three lines)
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he was born of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.

For our sake he was crucified
under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered, died, and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in fulfillment of the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son
he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic
and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism
for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.

that is what the
bible says, we believe it at our church.
bithiah2

 

[Strong in Him]

The instruction "all bow their heads during the next three lines" is a man made one and not compulsary. I'm sure you know that. You must have added, and highlighted, this for a reason though.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

The instruction "all bow their heads during the next three lines" is a man made one and not compulsary. I'm sure you know that. You must have added, and highlighted, this for a reason though.

I copied and pasted it as I found it on the web. I did not highlight the part about bowing. The part about bowing is highlighted because it's an instruction to people about what they should do at that point in the creed when reciting it because at that point it's talking about the moment that changed the world, the incarnation of God by the power of the Holy Spirit.

In bowing, we are showing a sign of humility and respect while contemplating what we are confessing about God.

May God bless you.

 

[New_Wineskin]

Here is the Creed:

We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
one in Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us people and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he was born of the virgin , Mary,
and became man.

For our sake he was crucified
under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered, died, and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in fulfillment of the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son
he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy universal
and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism
for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.

While many people agree with it , it is so vague that people have vastly different meanings from it . It is because of its being vague that so many people agree with it .

Take "one baptism" ... many people are thinking of "water baptism":. I couldn't agree with that . But , since "water" is left out , I can agree .

 

[Strong in Him]

I copied and pasted it as I found it on the web. I did not highlight the part about bowing. The part about bowing is highlighted because it's an instruction to people about what they should do at that point in the creed when reciting it because at that point it's talking about the moment that changed the world, the incarnation of God by the power of the Holy Spirit.

In bowing, we are showing a sign of humility and respect while contemplating what we are confessing about God.

I know, we used to do it at my former church. I've no problem with it if that's what people decide they want to do - it's just that it's not part of the creed, and you asked us if we accepted the creed and then included a version with this instruction.

I do believe the Nicene creed, but I'm a Methodist, not a Penetecostal.

 

[Adammi]

In order to post in this forum you must adhere to the Nicene Creed, so yes, everyone here accepts it.

 

[JimB]

Personally, I have a preference for the Apostles’ Creed (c.125 AD). The Nicene Creed did not see the light of day until two centuries later and was adopted by the Council of Nicea to add more punch to orthodox Christology that was being challenged at that time. I prefer the Apostle’s Creed because it is closer to the apostle’s doctrine—in fact those who first originated the Creed were most likely contemporaries with some of the apostles, and is freer from the tampering of men’s pet doctrines as other subsequent creeds are (i.e., Nicene, Athanasian).

The more you add to it the more sectarian it becomes.

~Jim

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A little authority makes some grow but others swell. ​

 

[heron]

Is there a reason you thought Pentecostals might not?

I don't often hear creeds in Charismatic churches, but the messages echoing the precepts of the creeds are still there. That's just liturgical choice.

 

[LogonLalein]

Personally, I have a preference for the Apostles’ Creed (c.125 AD). The Nicene Creed did not see the light of day until two centuries later and was adopted by the Council of Nicea to add more punch to orthodox Christology that was being challenged at that time. I prefer the Apostle’s Creed because it is closer to the apostle’s doctrine—in fact those who first originated the Creed were most likely contemporaries with some of the apostles, and is freer from the tampering of men’s pet doctrines as other subsequent creeds are (i.e., Nicene, Athanasian).

The more you add to it the more sectarian it becomes.

~Jim

A little authority makes some grow but others swell. ​

I grew up in the Episcopalian Church reciting the Apostles creed in every service.
Apostles Creed...

 

[Brucea]

Some do and some don't! It is water down enough that many agree with it, while at the same time it means different things to different people. Just put the rose colored classes on of your favorite doctrines if you squint long enough and hard enough....
Yes, Yes, I do agree!!!

 

[murjahel]

Yes, I believe the nicene creed,
but it was a rewriting of a creed
from long before that time,
one that is called the
'apostles' creed'

The legend of the source
of the creed
says that the dictation of the creed
was at the direction of the twelve
(Matthias replacing Judas Ischariot) apostles.

It is said that each apostle contributed a part of the whole...

Thus, Peter, it is alleged, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, began:
"I believe in God the Father..."

Andrew (some say John) continued:
"And in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord..."

James the son of Zebedee contributed:
"Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit..."

The Apostles' Creed was referred to by Paul with the mention of the "form of teaching"...

Romans 6:17
"But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you."

Paul later reminded Timothy of the "good confession" that he had made in the sight of "many witnesses."

I Timothy 6:12
"Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses."

The 'Apostles' Creed' is therefore the oldest creed, and is the basis of most other creeds in Christianity.

Its roots are within the apostolic times, and it embodies the dominant teachings of the apostles.

For many years, it was referred to as the "Rule of Faith" (regula fidei), terminology that later came to refer to all of Scripture.

Yet, this creed was a summary of the major and vital doctrines of Scripture.

Those who could trust and profess this creed were thereby approving of the doctrines of the faith.

All through the years, the creed has been attacked.

It was written by the apostles to counter the early cults and heresies of the early church period.

To state this creed, and to believe its tenets, required the forsaking of some false doctrines the "tares" and false prophets of the early church period were propagating.

Traces of the contents of the original creed are given to us from the early church period from Ireneas, Tertullian, Origen, etc. but though they show a great unity with a certain freedom of form in expression,
no full rendering of the creed exists from the first several centuries...

So although references to this creed date to the early church period,
yet a full reading of the creed is not found together until 341 A.D.
from Marcellus of Ancyra.

It was stated as thus:

"I believe in God the Father Almighty. And in Jesus Christ His only (begotten) Son our Lord, Who was born of the Holy Spirit and the virgin Mary; crucified under Pontius Pilate, and buried; the third day, He rose from the dead; He ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of the Father, from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead. And in the Holy Spirit; the holy church; the forgiveness of sins; the resurrection of the body; the life everlasting."

The accuracy of this creed, since it was a copy several hundred years after the original was written, is oft a debated controversy...

Later that century more changes were made in this form. By 650 A.D.,
the 'Received Form' of the creed read;

"I believe in God the Father Almighty; Maker of heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ His only (begotten) Son our Lord; Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary; suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried; He descended into sheol; the third day He rose from the dead; He ascended into heaven; and sitteth at the right hand of God, the Father Almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit; the holy catholic church; the communion of the saints; the forgiveness of sins; the resurrection of the body; and the life everlasting. Amen."

Various corruptions were made of the true text... One of the heresies of the early church, was the gnostic heresy.
This creed was to counter was that of the gnostics... T
he gnostics came up with their own creed,
a perverted version of the real creed.

A second century copy of the gnostic creed has been reconstructed from Hippolytus.
It read:

"We believe, that Christ descended from the Power above, from the Good; that He is the Son of the Good; that He was not born of a virgin, and that when He did appear He was not devoid of flesh. That He formed His body by taking portions of it from the substance of the universe, i.e. hot and cold, moist and dry; That He received cosmical powers in the Body, and lived for the time He did in the world; That He was crucified by the Jews and died; That being raised again after three days, He appeared to His disciples; That He showed them the prints of the nails and (the wound) in His side, being desirous of persuading them that He was no phantom, but was present in the flesh; That after He had shown them His flesh, He restored it to earth; That after He had once more loosed the chains of His body He gave back heat to what is hot, cold to what is cold, moisture to what moist, and dryness to what is dry; That in this condition He departed to the Good Father, leaving the Seed of Life in the world for those who though His disciples should believe in Him."

I find many problems with that creed...​

 

[murjahel]

Various attacks on the doctrines of the Apostles' Creed
are still continuing today...

There are teachings amidst the false prophets of our day still concerning the virgin birth, the incarnation of deity into a human body, the resurrection of the dead, the three person Godhead, etc.

There are additions that some want to add as indispensable to faith, which the creed does not include as indispensable tenets of the faith.

Like the attacks of the Ebionites and of the gnostic heresy,
the attacks of our day are still silenced by the true apostolic creed.

The creed was employed to check the validity of those claiming to be teachers of the faith. The creed had originated from the early oral teaching of the apostles...
hence it was a witness to the common faith...

It was not to supersede Scripture,
but to corroborate Scripture...

It was used to hinder the spread of heresies and false doctrines that would pervert true doctrine and truth.

The creed was used originally as a baptismal confession, to authenticate and verify that one about to be baptized was truly a convert to the true faith.

The use of the Apostles' Creed in the early church has long been overlooked.

Many saints have become aware of the creed only in a recitation given in church with little conscious thought being given to what they were saying.

Many other saints have never read the creed... It is vitally important, and the Scriptures confirm this...​

 

[murjahel]

I have gone back to many
early church writings of the
first and second century...
preceding the Nicene Creed,
and looked for quotes of parts of the
creed they were using then,
the 'apostles' creed...

In those early quotes
we find a creed that agrees with
the Nicene Creed,
but more like the one originally
penned by the apostles...

here is the version of it
that I have found in those early
quotes...
of course, not in the Greek,
but in English translation...

THE APOSTLES' CREED
​

I BELIEVE IN GOD, THE FATHER: ​

THE MAKER OF HEAVEN AND EARTH;
​

I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST,
HIS ​

ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,
OUR LORD; ​

WHO WAS CONCEIVED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND BORN OF THE VIRGIN MARY,
WHO WAS CRUCIFIED UNDER PONTIUS PILATE, DEAD, AND BURIED;
WHO DESCENDED INTO SHEOL, BUT ROSE FROM THE DEAD THE THIRD DAY;
WHO ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN, AND WHO SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, THE FATHER,
WHO SHALL COME TO JUDGE THE LIVING AND THE DEAD.

I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT;
WHO IS THE ADMINISTRATOR
OF THE HOLY CHURCH;
WHO BLESSES THE FELLOWSHIP
OF THE SAINTS;
WHO LEADS SINNERS
TO THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS;
WHO WILL EFFECT
THE RESURRECTION
OF THE BODY;
AND
WHO ACTUATES THE LIFE EVERLASTING.
AMEN.

This, in my opinion, is the most
pure form of the creed,
without additions of later
days,
and yet, I do not say that
the Nicene Creed is incorrect,
but just a 'rewritten' version,
perhaps added to,
to alleviate cult and heretical
teachings that had come
in the subsequent years.

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