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Differences in United Methodist and Welseyan Churches

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What are the differences between the United Methodists and the Wesleyan Churches? I was told that the Wesleyans are "more conservative". What does this mean? In what aspect? Any comparisions are highly appreciated.

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What are the differences between the United Methodists and the Wesleyan Churches? I was told that the Wesleyans are "more conservative". What does this mean? In what aspect? Any comparisions are highly appreciated.

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The Wesleyan Church (and the Free Methodist Church) requires acceptance of the old Methodist beliefs about Sanctification, requires members to swear off all alcohol, tobacco, and membership in Secret Societies. It is also strongly conservative on such contemporary social issues as abortion and homosexuality.

As you know, the (United) Methodist Church has both a conservative and a liberal wing. In practice it is very much involved in socio-political activism, particularly in support of pacifism and abortion on demand, and a lot of Masons are Methodists. The Wesleyans are not, as a church, involved in political activism. The Methodists also retain elements of the Anglican liturgy in worship, but the Wesleyans are not liturgical at all.
 
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Interesting, I'm extremely suspicious of Masons so thats a good policy of the Wesleyan Church and I like the abstenence from politics but it seems essential anymore. Well thanks for that! God bless
 
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Interesting, I'm extremely suspicious of Masons so thats a good policy of the Wesleyan Church and I like the abstenence from politics but it seems essential anymore. Well thanks for that! God bless

Not that it's a biggie, but Masonry in the USA is steeped in Christian values and imagery. I realize that centuries ago, Freemasonry was instrumental in working for democracy and national independence (for example, most of the leaders of the American Revolution were Masons), which not everyone cared for. The Roman Catholic Church most famously. But nowadays Masonry in this country is little more than a Christian social and civic club. Nothing to be very suspicious of, really. Even the much discussed "secret" side of Masonry is no secret at all...unless the discussion turns to the mythical inner circle of leaders at some supposed elite level that books talk about but which no one has ever shown to actually exist. Certainly no ordinary Mason ever heard of any and is not influenced by such alleged elite signal-callers in any way.
 
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Yeah I figured as much but just because they are a secret society I'm inherently suspicious. Although I guess thats not fair. They can really practice what they want I can be accused of studying the Occult and Goetia in my past but yeah.

Really I wouldn't choose a church based on Masonry influence. I would probably choose the UMC for it being far more widespread and a little on the more traditional side of than TWC. Plus its more politically moderate than the TWC.
 
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I agree that, from what I know of your thinking, the UMC would be more comfortable a fit for you than TWC.

As for Masonry and secrecy, I guess I suffer from a special sort of amazement about that because anyone can go to Barnes and Noble and buy a book that tells you every 'secret' of being a Master Mason. At the same time, however, I haven't the faintest idea of what the initiation rites and passwords, etc. of such as the Knights of Columbus or even the Elks amount to...yet they are never said to be worrisome for being secret societies.

I'm not saying this about your comments especially. They just reminded me that many many people have the same idea from something or other that they've read or heard.
 
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The Wesleyan church is more of a holiness based church. It is far more conservative than the United Methodist Church. I would consider the Wesleyan Church to be more of a fundamentalist church while the United Methodist Church is more of a mainline church. To me, that is the main difference. Other than that, they share relatively similar beliefs.
 
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Also where do these churches stand in relativity to the Nazarenes? Thank you.

There is little difference except that the history of Nazarenes and the Wesleyan Church is different. The Wesleyans grew out of a protest against the Methodist churches in the USA while the Nazarenes are a merger of various Holiness churches which, however, are an outgrowth of John Wesley's teachings on sanctification.
 
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