definition "religious spirit"

[tturt]

Would appreciate help in defining a religious spirit.

 

[Optimax]

First lets define religion and Christianity.

Religion is based on a set of beliefs obtained by works.

Christainity is a relationship with God based on grace accessed by faith through Jesus.

A religious spirit manifested through a person displays pride in their works and assurance in them accompanied by an elitist attitude.

The demon that influnces them is also named a religious spirit.

Entire churches can demonstrate the presence of religious spirits.

 

[JTM3]

First lets define religion and Christianity.

Religion is based on a set of beliefs obtained by works.

Christainity is a relationship with God based on grace accessed by faith through Jesus.

A religious spirit manifested through a person displays pride in their works and assurance in them accompanied by an elitist attitude.

The demon that influnces them is also named a religious spirit.

Entire churches can demonstrate the presence of religious spirits.

Wow bstow! Great post!

 

[Father Rick]

Would appreciate help in defining a religious spirit.

In the missions work I have done in various countries, I have dealt with a number of different types of "religious spirits". I have been in countries where Hinduism and Islam were the primary religions. I have also dealt with those involved in voodoo/anamism and witchcraft. Each of these different religions were motivated by different demonic spirits-- and each one is different.

Yet there were some similarities. Each tends to put the emphasis on the person's spiritual ability/strength (If you pray enough, sacrifice enough, believe enough, etc. then you will make it happen). Ultimately, each encourages worship of something/someone other than God. Sometimes that worship is of an external thing--such as an idol. Sometimes that worship is actually of oneself/one's own spirituality. They tend to create in people either pride (look how spiritual I am) or fear/despair (I'm just not spiritual enough).

Hopefully this helps.

 

[tturt]

Thanks!

 

[JTM3]

First lets define religion and Christianity.

Religion is based on a set of beliefs obtained by works.

Christainity is a relationship with God based on grace accessed by faith through Jesus.

A religious spirit manifested through a person displays pride in their works and assurance in them accompanied by an elitist attitude.

The demon that influnces them is also named a religious spirit.

Entire churches can demonstrate the presence of religious spirits.

In the missions work I have done in various countries, I have dealt with a number of different types of "religious spirits". I have been in countries where Hinduism and Islam were the primary religions. I have also dealt with those involved in voodoo/anamism and witchcraft. Each of these different religions were motivated by different demonic spirits-- and each one is different.

If by "religious spirits" you mean other religions, I don't think that's what the OP was referring to; bstow said it best IMO.

See above

Yet there were some similarities. Each tends to put the emphasis on the person's spiritual ability/strength (If you pray enough, sacrifice enough, believe enough, etc. then you will make it happen). Ultimately, each encourages worship of something/someone other than God. Sometimes that worship is of an external thing--such as an idol. Sometimes that worship is actually of oneself/one's own spirituality. They tend to create in people either pride (look how spiritual I am) or fear/despair (I'm just not spiritual enough).

Hopefully this helps.

 

[psalms 91]

Religious spirit is anything that turns us and our focus primarily from God to something else such as works, it will contain many truths and just enough lie to decieve, it will say that things have to be rigidly observed and done so that God ends up in a box and cant work as He chooses

 

[Father Rick]

If by "religious spirits" you mean other religions, I don't think that's what the OP was referring to;

I was just saying there are a variety of religious spirits. Some define anyone who disagrees with them as having a "religious spirit". Others define those who are legalistic as having a "religious spirit". In reality, scripture really doesn't give a definition-- although it does specifically talk about demons/evil spirits motivating different religions.

 

[God_Owned]

I always consider doctrines of men, like Catholicism, to be a product of religious spirits, but that may just be my take on the subject.

 

[JTM3]

I was just saying there are a variety of religious spirits. Some define anyone who disagrees with them as having a "religious spirit". Others define those who are legalistic as having a "religious spirit". In reality, scripture really doesn't give a definition-- although it does specifically talk about demons/evil spirits motivating different religions.

OH I see.

 

[Christina M]

Just to unclear my "confusion".... I thought the rule defined in the link below states that only people wearing WOF icons can discuss, debate, answer, etc. All others can only post things pertaining to "fellowshipping".

Does this rule not apply to mods? Can mods not wearing WOF icons come in and not have to abide by the rule?

http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=30123010&postcount=1

 

[pdudgeon]

ummm yep that still does apply.
the reason that it does was because it was written by someone from the Executive branch of CF, so it has the same validity as the CF rules.

 

[flaglady]

Just to unclear my "confusion".... I thought the rule defined in the link below states that only people wearing WOF icons can discuss, debate, answer, etc. All others can only post things pertaining to "fellowshipping".

Does this rule not apply to mods? Can mods not wearing WOF icons come in and not have to abide by the rule?

http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=30123010&postcount=1

Are you referring to Father Rick? Because he does have a WoF icon.

 

[God_Owned]

Are you referring to Father Rick? Because he does have a WoF icon.

Where is Rick's WOF ICON. I don't see it. The rule is only one ICON per customer. So where is his WOF ICON? Is it an invisable ICON? I see his Old Catholic priest ICON, but no WOF ICON. The rule is he can't debate here if he has no WOF ICON.

 

[DefendingWordOfFaith]

Religious spirit: My denominations beliefs and practices are the ONLY beliefs and practices that are absolutely Biblically correct, there are no faults in any of my denominations beliefs, and practices.....That to me is the correct definition of a religious spirit.Sad to say there are millions of folks sitting in churches with millions of religious spirits floating around their sanctuaries.....

 

[J4Jesus]

Sad to say there are millions of folks sitting in churches with millions of religious spirits floating around their sanctuaries.....

You got THAT right !

 

[JTM3]

Not too mention they're all over the forum!!

It's alive!!!!

 

[Father Rick]

Religious spirit: My denominations beliefs and practices are the ONLY beliefs and practices that are absolutely Biblically correct, there are no faults in any of my denominations beliefs, and practices.....That to me is the correct definition of a religious spirit.Sad to say there are millions of folks sitting in churches with millions of religious spirits floating around their sanctuaries.....

I actually was thinking this very thing this morning. It's amazing how some, who claim to have "freedom in Christ", are so insistent that everyone who isn't exactly like them is automatically wrong. They are in bondage to "their way of doing things" and don't even know it.

The way I would word it is: Religious spirits work to get the emphasis on the external (form/style) rather than on the internal (people). Christ died for people, not for a style of doing things. In different cultures/peoples there are many differnt styles/trapping in the way they worship. We have to look beyond those things to see the heart of the person.

 

[God_Owned]

I actually was thinking this very thing this morning. It's amazing how some, who claim to have "freedom in Christ", are so insistent that everyone who isn't exactly like them is automatically wrong. They are in bondage to "their way of doing things" and don't even know it.

I expect that some of us just recognize deception and are willing to call it just that.

The way I would word it is: Religious spirits work to get the emphasis on the external (form/style) rather than on the internal (people). Christ died for people, not for a style of doing things. In different cultures/peoples there are many different styles/trapping in the way they worship. We have to look beyond those things to see the heart of the person.

It's no mystery why you're here. Don't you find it amazing that there have been no threads closed since you left and within two day of you return there have been two thread closed and the Godly peace of this board has been disrupted. Yes, we know why your and your friends are here. Rick, no one here is anti-Catholic. We are just not Catholic. If we were we world be posting on the Catholic board. We congregate here because we want to congregate with our own and to win people to WOF.

 

[Optimax]

This may or may not be off topic. You decide.

When I go fishing, the only fish that gets removed from the lake are the ones that take the bait.