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Hi! I’m a mother of 3 and I have a 16 (turning 17 in a few weeks time) year old daughter. I’ve always taught my kids and brought them up with strong Christian values: teaching them between wrong and right and important lessons from the Bible. My husband, two kids, I go to church every day but my daughter hasn’t been going neither has she been going to youth group (I found out she had been lying to me about youth group). I recently found out she’s been seeing a boy, a Muslim Algerian Arab boy for that matter. She’s been sneaking off to be with him and lying about being at sleepovers and after school activities to spend time with him. I found out from certain people that they’ve been seeing each other of a while and they’ve even been having a sexual relationship. This made me furious since we taught all my kids about remaining chaste, the dangers of temptation, and basic Sex Ed. After find this out I did a sweep of her room and found birth control pills hidden and a condom wrapper shoved in her period case!!!! I’m fuming even writing this, I don’t think I can look at my little girl the same way. I’m worried she’s frequenting a Muslim in an intimate and emotional way. I’m worried she’ll lose what’s left of her Christian faith, what if she converts to Islam or even gets pregnant with a child who would grow up in a non-Christian environment. I’m scared this Muslim boy is going to give her ideas that throw her fathers and I’s values out of the window. What should I do? I can’t believe this is happening, I feel so lost, my husband thinks we should send her away so she be far from that boy but there’s always communication through social media. What should I do, I’m worried for my daughter.
 

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Hi! I’m a mother of 3 and I have a 16 (turning 17 in a few weeks time) year old daughter. I’ve always taught my kids and brought them up with strong Christian values: teaching them between wrong and right and important lessons from the Bible. My husband, two kids, I go to church every day but my daughter hasn’t been going neither has she been going to youth group (I found out she had been lying to me about youth group). I recently found out she’s been seeing a boy, a Muslim Algerian Arab boy for that matter. She’s been sneaking off to be with him and lying about being at sleepovers and after school activities to spend time with him. I found out from certain people that they’ve been seeing each other of a while and they’ve even been having a sexual relationship. This made me furious since we taught all my kids about remaining chaste, the dangers of temptation, and basic Sex Ed. After find this out I did a sweep of her room and found birth control pills hidden and a condom wrapper shoved in her period case!!!! I’m fuming even writing this, I don’t think I can look at my little girl the same way. I’m worried she’s frequenting a Muslim in an intimate and emotional way. I’m worried she’ll lose what’s left of her Christian faith, what if she converts to Islam or even gets pregnant with a child who would grow up in a non-Christian environment. I’m scared this Muslim boy is going to give her ideas that throw her fathers and I’s values out of the window. What should I do? I can’t believe this is happening, I feel so lost, my husband thinks we should send her away so she be far from that boy but there’s always communication through social media. What should I do, I’m worried for my daughter.

Welcome to CF.

The first mistake parents make is to assume their child will follow in their steps in fact, they are more likely not to follow suit. Yes it is disappointing but it is their decision and God knows their heart, something you absolutely can not control.
I know my comment may not be the least bit helpful nevertheless, before you whisk your daughter away to some far away land understand you will not change her heart with such an act. Only God can do that.
On a side note, your daughter may be teaching him about Jesus Christ of Nazareth who teaches us to love one another , so dont be so quick to judge and cast her away.

Blessings.
 
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I'm also a mother of 3. Mine are a little older than yours (they're in their 20s), but are similarly at that stage of life where they're deciding who they're going to be as adults, so I can sympathize with your situation.

Your daughter is almost an adult. She'll probably be moving out on her own in a year or so. With that in mind, solutions like forbidding her to leave the house unsupervised or sending her away from her friends and family may give you control of her behavior for the next year, but those solutions are temporary. Once she turns 18 and moves out, she'll be back in charge of her own decisions.

This might be a time when you could open a conversation about romantic relationships in adult life. She'll have times in her life when she's met a wonderful guy, or when she's just had her heart broken, or when something is going wrong with a boyfriend and she needs to figure out what to do. You could be a safe person that she could talk to.

I think it's positive that she's using birth control methods that protect against both pregnancy and STDs. It shows that she's thought this through, and she's being responsible about some of the risks. You could say "You know that I think it's too soon for you to be having sex, but I'm glad you're using protection responsibly."

As to the interfaith/intercultural question: Could you invite the boyfriend over for dinner, or to accompany you on some family outing, and get to know him? Is he a kind and caring person? Maybe, as Maria said, he might be wrestling with his own religious questions. If he's a first-generation immigrant from Algeria, then he might also be wrestling with the cultural differences between Algeria and the US. You might have interesting conversations about his favorite foods or music or holidays.

The lying and the sneaking around are bad. Probably she's afraid of getting in trouble with you. If the two of you can come to a place where you can have open conversations and she can tell you about her dating relationships, then even if you still disagree with some of her choices, you might still be a person she can talk to for advice, or when she needs a shoulder to cry on.
 
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Cooler heads must prevail ….the last thing you want to do is send her away …that is an outta sight outta mind action that will have horrible consequences for years to come…

Unfortunately, this is part of parenting…. Not everything goes as we plan …. And as bad as it is…. you will make it through this….

What has happened, has happened …so despite your feelings about it, and how you raised her…you have a new starting point from which you need to proceed. I understand the whole sex thing is very disturbing, unsettling and goes against what you have taught her…On the other hand, she did procure birth control, or you could be dealing with a very different situation.

To me the lying and sneaking around is the bigger matter that you have to deal with right now, because trust is everything and right now that is in jeopardy. Whatever you do or say ….you have to be able to trust her …or it’s irrelevant.. You need to be able to bridge that gap or it will continue.

Penalizing her or controlling her is not going to be an answer ….I know it’s what you want to do, but it won’t work…it will only drive a wedge between you and her.. If you try to restrict the relationship it will only make it worse and be an incubator for more lies…

You have done your best to raise her right …Trust God to work in her heart.

Pro 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
 
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Hi! I’m a mother of 3 and I have a 16 (turning 17 in a few weeks time) year old daughter. I’ve always taught my kids and brought them up with strong Christian values: teaching them between wrong and right and important lessons from the Bible. My husband, two kids, I go to church every day but my daughter hasn’t been going neither has she been going to youth group (I found out she had been lying to me about youth group). I recently found out she’s been seeing a boy, a Muslim Algerian Arab boy for that matter. She’s been sneaking off to be with him and lying about being at sleepovers and after school activities to spend time with him. I found out from certain people that they’ve been seeing each other of a while and they’ve even been having a sexual relationship. This made me furious since we taught all my kids about remaining chaste, the dangers of temptation, and basic Sex Ed. After find this out I did a sweep of her room and found birth control pills hidden and a condom wrapper shoved in her period case!!!! I’m fuming even writing this, I don’t think I can look at my little girl the same way. I’m worried she’s frequenting a Muslim in an intimate and emotional way. I’m worried she’ll lose what’s left of her Christian faith, what if she converts to Islam or even gets pregnant with a child who would grow up in a non-Christian environment. I’m scared this Muslim boy is going to give her ideas that throw her fathers and I’s values out of the window. What should I do? I can’t believe this is happening, I feel so lost, my husband thinks we should send her away so she be far from that boy but there’s always communication through social media. What should I do, I’m worried for my daughter.

There is not really any good advice that I can offer. Really all that can be done is to lift her up in prayer. If you feel up to it confront her on the issue of this guy's religion. For it is really very barbaric. Islam teaches that disobedient wives can even be beaten. As we see here from the Quran:

Sahih International (Quran 4:34): Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

Pickthall (Quran 4:34): Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

Does she really want such a thing?
 
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Welcome to CF.

I can relate to your dilemma.

This may sound controversial but, prayer wise, I would remember the Passover Lamb.

Now to stand on this - (you have to know it for yourself and to have heard it from Him to be in faith.)

One Lamb Per. Family.

Not one lamb per. individual family member.

While I cant make a strong theological case for this, you might seek Him for the personal revelation.

So I would claim the blood of Jesus over her as part of your household and stand in prayer from this perspective.

Resist the darkness in His blood covering and death will pass over.

If she was dedicated as a child the case speaks louder in prayer.
 
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Hello, I don't have any advice because my kids are still small, not even teenagers yet. All I can think of is pray. It seems anything you do will just draw her even closer to that boy because love is a very strong emotion and at that age I think kids believe they know more than adults do. Who knows what all the muslim kid has been telling her. But it's not your fault. You can raise them the best you know how, but they will still be influenced by the outside world to some degree. It's like if you raise your kid in your home to only speak German, they are still going to learn to speak English growing up in America because they will hear it everywhere else. The outside world does have some influence on children no matter how well you teach them right in your home. Just pray that your child finds her way back to God as soon as possible.
 
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Hi! I’m a mother of 3 and I have a 16 (turning 17 in a few weeks time) year old daughter. I’ve always taught my kids and brought them up with strong Christian values: teaching them between wrong and right and important lessons from the Bible. My husband, two kids, I go to church every day but my daughter hasn’t been going neither has she been going to youth group (I found out she had been lying to me about youth group).

Until we left our parents' home, we followed their rules. Period. No skipping church, no avoiding Youth Group, no tucking into a meal without first giving thanks to God, no swearing, no contravention of any of the rules our parents instituted. When we were fully independent, fully responsible for ourselves, then we could set our own rules. This still seems entirely reasonable to me.

I've seen children test the boundaries their parents have set, marking how serious their parents are about the various rules of the household. Their testing was as much - or more - about discovering what was really important to their parents and what was not. By caving on a rule when the pressure was on, parents revealed to their kids that the rule was not important. Convenient, maybe; useful practically, perhaps; but not really important. And so, they pressed even harder against it, often finally dissolving it entirely, eager to see what other rules might be dissolved.

We raised a big stink about some things, as kids. My Dad endured a great deal of resistance to his rules. But only to a point. There was a line we all understood clearly we could not cross without serious repercussions. I remember coming home late one night to find the place entirely shut and locked. I didn't dare rouse the house trying to get in, so I spent the night (a summer night) outside in the yard, sleeping. Once, coming home late, I tried to sneak in a bedroom window only to find my Dad waiting and very angry. I didn't do that again. Anyway, fuss as we did about the rules, as adults we look back and admire and appreciate the determination of our parents to maintain them, seeing in their iron resolve what was really important to them - and important to us, too, as their children.

I recently found out she’s been seeing a boy, a Muslim Algerian Arab boy for that matter. She’s been sneaking off to be with him and lying about being at sleepovers and after school activities to spend time with him. I found out from certain people that they’ve been seeing each other of a while and they’ve even been having a sexual relationship. This made me furious since we taught all my kids about remaining chaste, the dangers of temptation, and basic Sex Ed.

Anger seems appropriate - providing it comes out of a concern for honoring God and in recognition of the danger of sin.

I’m fuming even writing this, I don’t think I can look at my little girl the same way.


Nope. She's a little girl no longer - at least, sexually. Her decision to be sexual outside of marriage clearly demonstrates her spiritual and psychological immaturity, though. She probably doesn't understand the Muslim attitude toward non-Muslims that permits her to be used purely as a sexual object by her Muslim boyfriend, thrown aside when she is no longer useful or interesting sexually. Infidels are dogs in the Muslim view, as she may soon find out.

I’m worried she’ll lose what’s left of her Christian faith, what if she converts to Islam or even gets pregnant with a child who would grow up in a non-Christian environment. I’m scared this Muslim boy is going to give her ideas that throw her fathers and I’s values out of the window. What should I do?

The problem isn't that she's throwing off your values but that her sin cuts her off from knowing and enjoying God. Her sin will also, God promises, produce corruption and death of various kinds. Death of fellowship with God, first of all, which means the loss of the joy, peace, grace, love and so on that He is, and death of relationships, of inner stability, of purity, and so on. This is the terrible cost of following the line she has with her rebellion and sin and why you ought to do all that you can to prevent her from following it further.

Romans 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death...


Romans 8:6
6 For to be carnally minded is death...


James 1:14-15
14 But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust.
15 Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.


Galatians 6:7-8
7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.
8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption...

1 Peter 3:10-12
10 For “Whoever desires to love life and see good days, let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit;
11 let him turn away from evil and do good; let him seek peace and pursue it.
12 For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous, and his ears are open to their prayer. But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.”


I’m scared this Muslim boy is going to give her ideas that throw her fathers and I’s values out of the window. What should I do?

Lay down the law. Ultimatum time: She knocks off the sin and yields to your authority, or she takes up fully the responsibility for her life and lives on her own. If she's old enough to mess around sexually, she's old enough to attend to the other aspects of her life, too. She won't be nearly as keen, I think, to fornicate with her boyfriend when she has to get a job, pay for rent, get her own groceries, do her own laundry, pay for utilities, clothe herself, and so on.

What should I do? I can’t believe this is happening, I feel so lost, my husband thinks we should send her away so she be far from that boy but there’s always communication through social media. What should I do, I’m worried for my daughter.

Before anything else, pray. And pray some more. She needs a meeting with God, who alone has the power to deal with her right at the heart of who she is, convicting and changing her. Examine yourselves, as well. It does little good to plead with God about your daughter when your own lives are not being lived in daily submission to His will and way.

James 4:8-10
8 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
9 Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom.
10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you.


1 John 1:9
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Romans 12:1
1 I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.

Your daughter needs to know she's crossed a very serious line but not because you've got mad, but because you will not give a fraction of an inch to her rebellion and sin. Because you love her and want to protect her from death, you would not yield in the slightest to her taking poison. So, too, with the poison of sin. You must not yield to her living one more minute in sin, not because you resent her rejection of your authority, but because her sin will bring her to death and you want to protect her from that death.
 
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Think about how God saw his "children", Adam and Eve. It broke his heart that they rebelled. He knew how much harder life was going to be for them.

Your daughter may be just used and discarded (with or without a child). She might be married and convert to Islam. She might be married and convert her husband.

There are many possibilities in the future. In spite of the pain and heartache she gave you, you may be the best hope she has in the future.

She has given your other two children an important lesson in how one's actions can cause others pain.
 
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First, I am so sorry and can relate.
As a parent, you have the right to take the actions you see fit. Whether it is talking to the parents of the Muslim boy, I am sure they would not be happy either. You can't turn a blind eye. Take your daughter to a clinic and have her tested for an STD and of course keep her from any activities. Have her go to church with you even if she falls asleep in service. Talk to that one person at the church and tell them everything with her that they may speak with her on this. Bring to light what she is doing and maybe she will see that God will reveal all that we do in darkness.

Prayers for you and your husband. Holy Spirit guide them on how to proceed. May they show their daughter grace and mercy even in their discipline. Lord you are showing us how to love even in the anger, the betrayal, the pain. You Lord God are able to forgive, may this trial bring them closer to You.
 
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Thank you all so much for the overwhelming response, I've been gone for a while. I took into account all of these advices and comments. I had a talk with my daughter and I won't lie, it was hard a first we fought a lot and right now I think we're onto a good path of getting back on good terms. She admitted to me not only did she have sex, she also did things like drink alcohol and smoke weed. I was immensely disappointed and that's what made our fights more frequent. I lost a lot of trust in her. She and the muslim boy are still together, I tried to get her to break up with him but she didn't want too. My husband and I are trying to be more understanding for their relationship. I don't know if it's a good idea but we met the boy and had dinner with him just to get to know him. He seems like a nice and polite boy, but I just can't shake the fact that he's from a religion that advocates for violence and abuse. I have also met his mother, she wears a hijab which just made me feel weird, we met during a school gala night. I didn't chat with her for long. My daughter still hasn't come back to church on a regular basis. She came once because I had to beg her to. Right now, we're slowly getting back on good terms, she's listening to me more, I've began to let her boyfriend come over but only if they stay in the living room and when I'm home. I know they're still intimate with each other but I'm trying to be more understanding, it's just hard...
 
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She admitted to me not only did she have sex, she also did things like drink alcohol and smoke weed. I was immensely disappointed and that's what made our fights more frequent. I lost a lot of trust in her. She and the muslim boy are still together, I tried to get her to break up with him but she didn't want too. My husband and I are trying to be more understanding for their relationship. I don't know if it's a good idea but we met the boy and had dinner with him just to get to know him. He seems like a nice and polite boy, but I just can't shake the fact that he's from a religion that advocates for violence and abuse.
Does he drink and smoke weed too?
 
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Thank you all so much for the overwhelming response, I've been gone for a while. I took into account all of these advices and comments. I had a talk with my daughter and I won't lie, it was hard a first we fought a lot and right now I think we're onto a good path of getting back on good terms. She admitted to me not only did she have sex, she also did things like drink alcohol and smoke weed. I was immensely disappointed and that's what made our fights more frequent. I lost a lot of trust in her. She and the muslim boy are still together, I tried to get her to break up with him but she didn't want too. My husband and I are trying to be more understanding for their relationship. I don't know if it's a good idea but we met the boy and had dinner with him just to get to know him. He seems like a nice and polite boy, but I just can't shake the fact that he's from a religion that advocates for violence and abuse. I have also met his mother, she wears a hijab which just made me feel weird, we met during a school gala night. I didn't chat with her for long. My daughter still hasn't come back to church on a regular basis. She came once because I had to beg her to. Right now, we're slowly getting back on good terms, she's listening to me more, I've began to let her boyfriend come over but only if they stay in the living room and when I'm home. I know they're still intimate with each other but I'm trying to be more understanding, it's just hard...

Forget what anyone else say. What does the Lord tell you to do? I know you are praying and I hope you are listening and being obedient. Not only will she have to answer to God for her decisions so will you.
 
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Well, they're bad Muslims at least.
Actually, I had dinner with his family yesterday, I asked my daughter to give me her boyfriends mothers number and they accepted to come over for dinner. My husband and I told them how we felt about their relationship. We didn't mention religion as one of the problems, but we said she was too young and we wanted her to focus on school and church and we didn't feel comfortable with her dating and having sex yet. Their response was quite surprising to me. First of all, they knew about the two dating from the moment it started. Apparently, he liked her and then asked her out. We got mad at them for not informing us about it and the parents apologized to us and explained they were worried and thought it would be better if our daughter was the one to tell us. They then told us, they didn't have a problem with the relationship and they weren't strict parents and are and I quote: 'we prefer to let out children experience things for themselves without us helicopter parenting them'. They told us they lived in Geneva and Paris (I thought only the dad was born in France but his mother grew up there as well) before moving to the US and they let their kids drink responsibly upon turning 16 and allow weed, but smoking cigs to them is haram. To me, they just seem crazy Muslims who were have western European views on adolescence.
 
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