I've learned about a second decree of [Sultan Suleiman](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleiman_the_Magnificent) to rebuild Jerusalem, which was engraved in stone in 1537-1542 AD.
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I found this information in the book “Witnessing the end” by Dr. Christian Widener.
So I began to consider what Dr. Widener put forth.
He said that Daniel 9:24-27 prophesy *does not call for an unfulfilled 70th week* that still needs to be fulfilled, as is commonly held, but that these verses have a double application to two separate decrees, and while the first 70 weeks set has been fulfilled, — the second set of 70 weeks has not, and, as I understand, we are now currently in the final week of the second set, or we soon will be.
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With the information of this new decree as an anchor point. The nuance seems to accurately align with relevant biblical themes, and with historical, and current geopolitical events.
I would like some feedback, suggestions, or comments, concerning my translation, if there are any apparent grammar violations, or any issues with my conclusion and over all approach to this interpretation?
King James: Dan.9.24.
> Seventy weeks are **determined** upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Gesenius' Lexicon suggests, that the meaning of **H2852** is '*to cut, to divide*', while in translation we see the word '***determined***' being used.
In light of the definition given above; below is my translation, using the exact ordering of the Masoretic Text (as given on the Bible tool app).
Dan.9.24:
> there are H5921 עַל־ split H2852 נֶחְתַּךְ seventy H7657 שִׁבְעִים weeks H7620 שָׁבֻעִים; for the holy H6944 קָדְשֶׁךָ city H5892 עִיר (old Jerusalem); and your peoples H5971 עַמְּךָ rebellion הַפֶּשַׁע 6588; by restraining H3607 נֶחְתַּךְ the sin H2304 חַטָּאת ( 2 Thes. 2.6-7); and are marked out H2856 for the coming h935 punishment H5771, which is for purging H3722 cp. Dan.12.10).
And here is **my first question**: is it grammatically right to read that verse as such?
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Here we have a seeming intended thought play, between a “separate” set of 70 weeks (70/70). Which is slightly veiled within the text (as will be shown below); and with a divided 70 weeks, which is what one would naturally conclude, in simply reading the “62” in the preceding passages (7+62+1).
The vision H2377, and its sealing up H2856 (Dan.12.4) are concerned with the age H5769 of righteousness H6664; and is when the holy H6944 of holies, H6944 will be anointed H4886 (Ez. 43-48).
This prophecy H530 (Dan.9.25) to some H4480 will be made understood H7919, and known H3045; that from **the building** H7919, **and restoration** H7725 from the word H1697, that went forth,
H4161 a ruler H5057, who is to be anointed H4899 for Jerusalem H3389; there shall be the weeks H7620:
Here we are giving the two starting points, of the beginning of the two sets of the weeks (i.e the 70). The first 70 starts from the building in 459 B.C., and the second from the restoration of the wall, 1542.B.C.
“the ruler, anointed” is Cyrus whom God calls His anointed (Isa.45.1); and also applies to Suleman.
Seventy H7651 (cp. Gen.4.24), seven H7620 (cp.Ez.45.21), then they shall build H1129;
seventy Seven years from the decree of Cyrus 536 B.C., ends at 459 B.C., and is when the building of the city began.
The “sealing up” of the vision corresponds with the “ the this prophecy” that will be made understood and known, cp. Dan. 12.9-10; and
should be read in verse 25;
And it shall be returned at H7725 the second H8147 (H8147 is rendered “second “ in Dan.2.1), sixty H8346; and anguished H6695, and diligence H2742 will be in their streets H7339 in those times H6296.
From the completion of Suleiman’s building of the wall, in 1542 A.D (+ 490 = 2032 A.D); unto “the second 60th week”, is 1962-69; and is when Jerusalem, the old city; the original Jerusalem, referred today as “east” Jerusalem; was returned under Jewish control, after the 6 day war 1967, giving confirmation that Suleiman’s restoration, is the starting point, and what is meant by the meaning of a divide between the building starting point of the first 70 weeks, and the restoration as a starting point of the second 70 weeks. **Also note that in 2011 the Egyptain Civil War began in reference to the Lords quote of Isa 19.2, in Mt. 24.7. Which began 3 weeks from 2032, and is a link to Dan.10.2 and the three weeks mentioned**.
Dan. 9.26: Two H8147 and sixty H8346 weeks H7620 after H310; none לוֹ ( not numbered in the Heb.), but not being for H369 Messiah H4899, will be cut off H3722 (Acts.3.23).
Here the 62 weeks, after the building of the city is implying the time arrival of the Messiah.
For there will be corruption/ destruction H7843 for the holy H6924 city H5892 (the destruction of the Roman siege, Lk.21.20-24; A.D., 69-70 A.D.). (And a double application to the Dome of the rock, which says “God has no Son”.
And shall come H935 of the ruler H5057 the people H5971 with a flood H7858;
(i.e., Oct.7, 2023; Al-Aqsa “Flood” fullfilment, or first aspect of fullfilment; the Hamas-led attack; “the people” of Saladin, i.e., the ottoman kingdom, i.e., Islamic jihad).
[![enter image description here][1]][1]
Three weeks later, on Oct.7th; when child comes out, Isarel is attacked.
[![enter image description here][2]][2]
(Seen on stellarium, on Oct.7th, astroid named "child" comes out of Virgo, possible partial, or full fulfillment of Rev.12.1-13; cp. Isa.26.17-21).
Rev.12:2-5 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Isaiah 26:17 Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD.
Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
And at the end H7093, desolation H8074 is determined H2782, for the battle H4421 at the end 7093 of the week. 7620
Dan.9.27: And the many of the H7727 covenant H1285 He shall cause to prevail H1396 (cp. Rev.12.11) for the week H7620; and a half H2677 of one H259 (Zech.10.6,12); and upon H5921 an offering H4503 of sacrifice H2077, He shall bring to an end H7673 abominations H8251; even upon wings H3671, intill H5704 the one who shall make desolate H8074, pours out that H5413 which is decreed H2782 for the consummation H3617 on it HH5921
The prevailing of the “week and a half of the following one" speaks of the prevailing of the people of Israel angaist their enemies (2018-2028); and is implying when Israel will lose their power (Dan.12.7). This is when the persuction will begin. Immediately After it begins, where the elect will be saved out of the time of the time of tribulation; Dan.12.1-3; Mt.24. 29-31; 2 Thes. 4. 15-17 ). Which will be around the middle period of the final week (2024-2031).
When the sufferings of Christ are filled up by His body (cp. Col.1.25); it is by this sacrificial service that God will cause the abominations end. This implies that it is by their sufferings, which must be fulfilled, before God’s wrath comes upon the world:
Rev 6:10 “And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? v11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
“Upon an offering of sacrifice”, is when the body is caught up to God, soon after the tribulation begins; their sacrificial service, will result in God bringing to a end abomination, by the coming wrath of the day of the LORD (cp. Rev 12.10).
They will be saved out of the tribulation unto God, as an offering of sacrifice, unto Himself for the reconciliation of the cosmos, back under the dominion of His image corporate Col.1.15-22, 24; Dan12.1-3; Mt.24.21-22, 29-30; Eph.1.4; 18; 2.6-10; 5. 26-27; Rev.14.7).
At this time the woman (i.e. the persevered of Israel) will be persevered, being brought on “wings” to the wilderness, intill the full return of Christ, when he will bring full desolation upon the abomination.
When we turn to related passages in Daniel, we find the word "sacrifice" is not in the original; it only takes place in 9.27; and in all these other scriptures (Daniel 8:11-13; 11:31; 12:11); it was attempted by the translators to alline these verses, with Antiochus Epiphanies, by injecting the word "sacrifice" to the English translation. (Which in my opinion really throws us of from the authors intended meaning).
Here is an example: Dan.12.11 "And shall understand the wise continually H8548; that shall be removed H5493 (cp. Gen. 8.13) from the time H6265 of the desolation H8074 of abomination H825, that shall be given over H5414 1290 days (Cp. Rev.12.1-15).
So the wise will be removed; but the unwise are not, but they will be preserved in the wilderness, being carried on wings (Rev.12. 3-7, 14; Dan.12.10; Mt. 25.2).Then at the end of this final week, the battle of Armageddon will take place.
In summary, (which diferers from Dr. Widener); the first set of 70 weeks begin from the building of city in BC 459 (which was 77 yrs after the decreed of Cyrus, who was God’s anointed (Isa.45.1); and culminate with the first coming of the Messiah, His ministry to Israel, and ending the final week at His crucifixion; which resulted in the cutting off of the people, that are against Him, and the destruction of the holy city (Acts. 3.23; Rom. 11). Being that, they did not recognize the time of visitation (AD 70, Lk.19.42-44).
The second set of 70 weeks concern the return of old Jerusalem back under Jewish control; and a prevailing of the people of the covenant (that do not rebel, ie the departure); who during the time of anguish (i.e. the tribulation); are purified, and will turn to God in righteousness (Dan.12. 1, 10).
The vision and the prophecy culminate with the final return of Christ Jesus; who will destroy the beast kingdom, and establish His Kingdom upon the earth; bringing desolation to the abomination (Dan.2.44-45; 7:13-14, 27; cp. Acts.1.6)
So what yall think? There are a lot of links, that make me believe this is how the N.T. writers read these verses.
[1]: https://i.sstatic.net/26qlJ0ZM.jpg
[2]: https://i.sstatic.net/f5VTAI6t.jpg
Old City of Jerusalem - Wikipedia
I found this information in the book “Witnessing the end” by Dr. Christian Widener.
So I began to consider what Dr. Widener put forth.
He said that Daniel 9:24-27 prophesy *does not call for an unfulfilled 70th week* that still needs to be fulfilled, as is commonly held, but that these verses have a double application to two separate decrees, and while the first 70 weeks set has been fulfilled, — the second set of 70 weeks has not, and, as I understand, we are now currently in the final week of the second set, or we soon will be.
----------
With the information of this new decree as an anchor point. The nuance seems to accurately align with relevant biblical themes, and with historical, and current geopolitical events.
I would like some feedback, suggestions, or comments, concerning my translation, if there are any apparent grammar violations, or any issues with my conclusion and over all approach to this interpretation?
King James: Dan.9.24.
> Seventy weeks are **determined** upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Gesenius' Lexicon suggests, that the meaning of **H2852** is '*to cut, to divide*', while in translation we see the word '***determined***' being used.
In light of the definition given above; below is my translation, using the exact ordering of the Masoretic Text (as given on the Bible tool app).
Dan.9.24:
> there are H5921 עַל־ split H2852 נֶחְתַּךְ seventy H7657 שִׁבְעִים weeks H7620 שָׁבֻעִים; for the holy H6944 קָדְשֶׁךָ city H5892 עִיר (old Jerusalem); and your peoples H5971 עַמְּךָ rebellion הַפֶּשַׁע 6588; by restraining H3607 נֶחְתַּךְ the sin H2304 חַטָּאת ( 2 Thes. 2.6-7); and are marked out H2856 for the coming h935 punishment H5771, which is for purging H3722 cp. Dan.12.10).
And here is **my first question**: is it grammatically right to read that verse as such?
----------
Here we have a seeming intended thought play, between a “separate” set of 70 weeks (70/70). Which is slightly veiled within the text (as will be shown below); and with a divided 70 weeks, which is what one would naturally conclude, in simply reading the “62” in the preceding passages (7+62+1).
The vision H2377, and its sealing up H2856 (Dan.12.4) are concerned with the age H5769 of righteousness H6664; and is when the holy H6944 of holies, H6944 will be anointed H4886 (Ez. 43-48).
This prophecy H530 (Dan.9.25) to some H4480 will be made understood H7919, and known H3045; that from **the building** H7919, **and restoration** H7725 from the word H1697, that went forth,
H4161 a ruler H5057, who is to be anointed H4899 for Jerusalem H3389; there shall be the weeks H7620:
Here we are giving the two starting points, of the beginning of the two sets of the weeks (i.e the 70). The first 70 starts from the building in 459 B.C., and the second from the restoration of the wall, 1542.B.C.
“the ruler, anointed” is Cyrus whom God calls His anointed (Isa.45.1); and also applies to Suleman.
Seventy H7651 (cp. Gen.4.24), seven H7620 (cp.Ez.45.21), then they shall build H1129;
seventy Seven years from the decree of Cyrus 536 B.C., ends at 459 B.C., and is when the building of the city began.
The “sealing up” of the vision corresponds with the “ the this prophecy” that will be made understood and known, cp. Dan. 12.9-10; and
should be read in verse 25;
And it shall be returned at H7725 the second H8147 (H8147 is rendered “second “ in Dan.2.1), sixty H8346; and anguished H6695, and diligence H2742 will be in their streets H7339 in those times H6296.
From the completion of Suleiman’s building of the wall, in 1542 A.D (+ 490 = 2032 A.D); unto “the second 60th week”, is 1962-69; and is when Jerusalem, the old city; the original Jerusalem, referred today as “east” Jerusalem; was returned under Jewish control, after the 6 day war 1967, giving confirmation that Suleiman’s restoration, is the starting point, and what is meant by the meaning of a divide between the building starting point of the first 70 weeks, and the restoration as a starting point of the second 70 weeks. **Also note that in 2011 the Egyptain Civil War began in reference to the Lords quote of Isa 19.2, in Mt. 24.7. Which began 3 weeks from 2032, and is a link to Dan.10.2 and the three weeks mentioned**.
Dan. 9.26: Two H8147 and sixty H8346 weeks H7620 after H310; none לוֹ ( not numbered in the Heb.), but not being for H369 Messiah H4899, will be cut off H3722 (Acts.3.23).
Here the 62 weeks, after the building of the city is implying the time arrival of the Messiah.
For there will be corruption/ destruction H7843 for the holy H6924 city H5892 (the destruction of the Roman siege, Lk.21.20-24; A.D., 69-70 A.D.). (And a double application to the Dome of the rock, which says “God has no Son”.
And shall come H935 of the ruler H5057 the people H5971 with a flood H7858;
(i.e., Oct.7, 2023; Al-Aqsa “Flood” fullfilment, or first aspect of fullfilment; the Hamas-led attack; “the people” of Saladin, i.e., the ottoman kingdom, i.e., Islamic jihad).
[![enter image description here][1]][1]
Three weeks later, on Oct.7th; when child comes out, Isarel is attacked.
[![enter image description here][2]][2]
(Seen on stellarium, on Oct.7th, astroid named "child" comes out of Virgo, possible partial, or full fulfillment of Rev.12.1-13; cp. Isa.26.17-21).
Rev.12:2-5 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Isaiah 26:17 Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD.
Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
And at the end H7093, desolation H8074 is determined H2782, for the battle H4421 at the end 7093 of the week. 7620
Dan.9.27: And the many of the H7727 covenant H1285 He shall cause to prevail H1396 (cp. Rev.12.11) for the week H7620; and a half H2677 of one H259 (Zech.10.6,12); and upon H5921 an offering H4503 of sacrifice H2077, He shall bring to an end H7673 abominations H8251; even upon wings H3671, intill H5704 the one who shall make desolate H8074, pours out that H5413 which is decreed H2782 for the consummation H3617 on it HH5921
The prevailing of the “week and a half of the following one" speaks of the prevailing of the people of Israel angaist their enemies (2018-2028); and is implying when Israel will lose their power (Dan.12.7). This is when the persuction will begin. Immediately After it begins, where the elect will be saved out of the time of the time of tribulation; Dan.12.1-3; Mt.24. 29-31; 2 Thes. 4. 15-17 ). Which will be around the middle period of the final week (2024-2031).
When the sufferings of Christ are filled up by His body (cp. Col.1.25); it is by this sacrificial service that God will cause the abominations end. This implies that it is by their sufferings, which must be fulfilled, before God’s wrath comes upon the world:
Rev 6:10 “And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? v11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
“Upon an offering of sacrifice”, is when the body is caught up to God, soon after the tribulation begins; their sacrificial service, will result in God bringing to a end abomination, by the coming wrath of the day of the LORD (cp. Rev 12.10).
They will be saved out of the tribulation unto God, as an offering of sacrifice, unto Himself for the reconciliation of the cosmos, back under the dominion of His image corporate Col.1.15-22, 24; Dan12.1-3; Mt.24.21-22, 29-30; Eph.1.4; 18; 2.6-10; 5. 26-27; Rev.14.7).
At this time the woman (i.e. the persevered of Israel) will be persevered, being brought on “wings” to the wilderness, intill the full return of Christ, when he will bring full desolation upon the abomination.
When we turn to related passages in Daniel, we find the word "sacrifice" is not in the original; it only takes place in 9.27; and in all these other scriptures (Daniel 8:11-13; 11:31; 12:11); it was attempted by the translators to alline these verses, with Antiochus Epiphanies, by injecting the word "sacrifice" to the English translation. (Which in my opinion really throws us of from the authors intended meaning).
Here is an example: Dan.12.11 "And shall understand the wise continually H8548; that shall be removed H5493 (cp. Gen. 8.13) from the time H6265 of the desolation H8074 of abomination H825, that shall be given over H5414 1290 days (Cp. Rev.12.1-15).
So the wise will be removed; but the unwise are not, but they will be preserved in the wilderness, being carried on wings (Rev.12. 3-7, 14; Dan.12.10; Mt. 25.2).Then at the end of this final week, the battle of Armageddon will take place.
In summary, (which diferers from Dr. Widener); the first set of 70 weeks begin from the building of city in BC 459 (which was 77 yrs after the decreed of Cyrus, who was God’s anointed (Isa.45.1); and culminate with the first coming of the Messiah, His ministry to Israel, and ending the final week at His crucifixion; which resulted in the cutting off of the people, that are against Him, and the destruction of the holy city (Acts. 3.23; Rom. 11). Being that, they did not recognize the time of visitation (AD 70, Lk.19.42-44).
The second set of 70 weeks concern the return of old Jerusalem back under Jewish control; and a prevailing of the people of the covenant (that do not rebel, ie the departure); who during the time of anguish (i.e. the tribulation); are purified, and will turn to God in righteousness (Dan.12. 1, 10).
The vision and the prophecy culminate with the final return of Christ Jesus; who will destroy the beast kingdom, and establish His Kingdom upon the earth; bringing desolation to the abomination (Dan.2.44-45; 7:13-14, 27; cp. Acts.1.6)
So what yall think? There are a lot of links, that make me believe this is how the N.T. writers read these verses.
[1]: https://i.sstatic.net/26qlJ0ZM.jpg
[2]: https://i.sstatic.net/f5VTAI6t.jpg
