Catholic Forum: Pope Leo X's excommunication of Martin Luther

[LivingWordUnity]

"He [Martin Luther] has now been declared a heretic; and so also others, whatever their authority and rank, who have cared nought of their own salvation but publicly and in all men's eyes become followers of Martin's pernicious and heretical sect, and given him openly and publicly their help, counsel and favour, encouraging him in their midst in his disobedience and obstinacy, or hindering the publication of our said missive: such men have incurred the punishments set out in that missive, and are to be treated rightfully as heretics and avoided by all faithful Christians, as the Apostle says (Titus iii. 10-11)." - Pope Leo X

Source:
Decet Romanum Pontificem
Papal Bull on the Condemnation and Excommunication of Martin Luther, the Heretic, and his Followers, January 3, 1521.

 

[chevyontheriver]

"He [Martin Luther] has now been declared a heretic; and so also others, whatever their authority and rank, who have cared nought of their own salvation but publicly and in all men's eyes become followers of Martin's pernicious and heretical sect, and given him openly and publicly their help, counsel and favour, encouraging him in their midst in his disobedience and obstinacy, or hindering the publication of our said missive: such men have incurred the punishments set out in that missive, and are to be treated rightfully as heretics and avoided by all faithful Christians, as the Apostle says (Titus iii. 10-11)." - Pope Leo X

Source:
Decet Romanum Pontificem
Papal Bull on the Condemnation and Excommunication of Martin Luther, the Heretic, and his Followers, January 3, 1521.

Just a reminder that an excommunication becomes moot when the person dies. An excommunication does not follow a person into the grave. And since this is the case, the idea of 'lifting' this excommunication is frivolous. His excommunication is instructive, but does not actually apply to any living person.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Just a reminder that an excommunication becomes moot when the person dies. An excommunication does not follow a person into the grave. And since this is the case, the idea of 'lifting' this excommunication is frivolous. His excommunication is instructive, but does not actually apply to any living person.

But it is useful for us to know why Martin Luther was excommunicated.

Luther's errors remain errors.

 

[chevyontheriver]

But it is useful for us to know why Martin Luther was excommunicated.

Luther's errors remain errors.

Yes indeed. The recent lovefest for Luther seemed to ignore that.

 

[Tomm]

"He [Martin Luther] has now been declared a heretic; and so also others, whatever their authority and rank, who have cared nought of their own salvation but publicly and in all men's eyes become followers of Martin's pernicious and heretical sect, and given him openly and publicly their help, counsel and favour, encouraging him in their midst in his disobedience and obstinacy, or hindering the publication of our said missive: such men have incurred the punishments set out in that missive, and are to be treated rightfully as heretics and avoided by all faithful Christians, as the Apostle says (Titus iii. 10-11)." - Pope Leo X

I came across a statement from Padre Pio:
"Martin Lutero esta en el infierno... ¿No sabes que el protestantismo tambien tiene un fundador sobrenatural? Tienes que saber ahora que se trata de un angel, y su nombre es Lucifer."

When translated into English:
"Martin Luther is in hell ... Do not you know that Protestantism also has a supernatural founder?
You have to know now that he is an angel, and his name is Lucifer."

 

[Meowzltov]

I think Luther's excommunication had AT LEAST as much to do with his persistent disrespect of the Pope (Luther had a quite a mouth on him) as his heresy.

 

[Meowzltov]

I came across a statement from Padre Pio:
"Martin Lutero esta en el infierno... ¿No sabes que el protestantismo tambien tiene un fundador sobrenatural? Tienes que saber ahora que se trata de un angel, y su nombre es Lucifer."

When translated into English:
"Martin Luther is in hell ... Do not you know that Protestantism also has a supernatural founder?
You have to know now that he is an angel, and his name is Lucifer."

I don't think it's a good idea to pronounce that anyone is in hell.

 

[SaNcTaMaRiA]

Salvation is God's alone to distribute. Not man's.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

I think Luther's excommunication had AT LEAST as much to do with his persistent disrespect of the Pope (Luther had a quite a mouth on him) as his heresy.

The heresy Martin Luther was promoting was the reason for his excommunication. That he disrespected the pope was like throwing gasoline on the fire. And Luther wasn't just disrespecting one pope but was attacking all of them and the institutional Church by rejecting the papacy itself. Luther's heresy rejected divine Tradition, parts of the holy Bible, and some of the sacraments.