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Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit Question

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Is saying holy crap or the word holy affixed to a curse word blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and unforgivable?

I don't think so.
The only way you can insult the Holy Spirit is to discard your faith and curse it. It is not a very likely situation to a Christian.
 
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There is no way that I can see to casually or "accidentally" blaspheme the Holy Spirit. You would need to renounce your own faith deliberately, and (probably) publicly claim that every good thing you experienced as a Christian, and the entire experience of all Christians everywhere throughout history, was nothing but a lie, a massive deception, and the work of Satan masquerading as God, convincing men of a way of salvation that was not the true one.
 
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No, it's forgivable. Crap isn't holy and therefore the two words should not be put into the same sentence, which is considered a sin, but it is desecration of the word holy, not the holy spirit. If you mized words like crap with the the spirit, that would be more like blasphemy of the Holy ghost.
 
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It's a trick by the dark side to bring fear onto man. This threat, most likely was added
to the scriptures by the Roman Powers that be. This dilutes the Act of the Father in Heaven and His Son. All sins are forgiven, but.

No, in some ways fear can sometimes be very healthy in terms of obedience, for at times fear may help us better obey God and avoid the consequences of our foolish actions. For instance, a young man may avoid using or selling drugs in fear of being incarcerated. Although I do know that fear can also be a way of suppressing someone. It all deopends on what kind of fear it is and what is causing you to fear. Both forces of light and darkness sometimes use fear for different reasons. The main difference between the two however is that the force of light allows us to have free will to choose either bad or good, only bad will lead to a consquence.

But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him. -Luke 12:5

Do not claim that this threat came from the Romans, for every Word of God is expedient. Not all sins are forgiven, for blasphemy of the holy Ghost surely cannot be forgiven, however, the sin that flowerforever7 is describing is not considered blasphemy of the Holy Ghost, for it is not directed against him, but holiness.

Before everyone gets paranoid of blaspheming the Holy Ghost, as I once was, let me go into detail about what blasphemy of the Holy Ghost really is. When Christ said that blasphemy of the Holy Ghost cannot be forgiven, he was talking to the Pharisees who upon seeing that he was heeling people and driving out demons, claimed that he did so with Beelzebub, the prince of the devils. Christ's reply to them was that a kingdom divided against ityself cannot stand, and that Satan cannot be against Satan. We all know that one of Satan's objectives is to bind people with demons, therefore how would it be possible for Satan, if Satan was in Jesus, to cast out demons if it is one of his goals to bind people with demons in the first place? Therefore those who claimed Christ was using the powers of the devil to cast out devils should have known better, because it would make no sense that Satan would cast out a demon out of someone when he put the demon in the man in the frist place, and they probably did know better because usually when people such as this say such things, they do so to blind other people from the truth. Like there are times when people will come out to reveal the truth and expose the lies of another, like the government, and in the other person's defense, they might tell everyone that that person comes in contact with that they shouldn't listen to him because they may be crazy, psychotic, and/or a liar, and they do this not because they truly believe that they are, but only because they don't want anyone listening to them and they don't want the truth to come out, they don't want the light to expose what is in the darkness, because they are ashamed of what they are hiding in the darkness because what is in the darkness could surely ruin their reputation if it were to be exposed. They know the person knows the truth, and they don't doubt it within themselves, but they don't want anyone to know what they know, because then others will know the truth too and it could ruin their reputation. I've had experiences with this, it's happened to me. People have hospitalized me and even attempted to put me to death in attempts of shutting me up and keeping others from listening to anything I have to say. Now, all anyone has to do when I go to expose the truth about things is say, "Oh, he's schizophenic or he's just psychotic, he doesn't know wht he's talking about." And I'm not saying this because I'm paranoid, like some people seem to think, but only because it's the truth. And the US govenment has done this with quite a few people, yes, they put some people to death who attempted to reveal their secrets. I truly think that this was the case in the case of the Pharisees and Christ. They probably knew that he truly was the Son of God and that he truly had the Spirit of God, but knowing this, they deliberately spoke evil against the Spirit within him that others around him might not believe in him or the things he had to say in fear of their reputation and/or to hinder the work of God, therefore Christ told them that they could not be forgiven for such a sin. They probably knew he had the Spirit of God, it's hard to deny it when someone is doing work that is contary if to work of Satan, but at the same time, it may be safe to say that if the sin is in ignorance and/or is unintentional, it may be forgiven, for did not Paul act in ingorance when he blasphemed Christ and persecuted his followers? He was truly convinced that Jesus was not the Messaiah, but a blasphemer, and therefore persecuted his followers. He did this in ignorance, therefore God showed him mercy and forgave him. Those who crucified Christ, such as the Roman soldiers, also acted in ignorance, which is why he cried out to the Father, "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do." They did not truly know that who they were crucifying was truly the Son of God himself, therefore it was forgivable. They were even surprised and marveled upon seeing the natural disasters that took place after Christ had passed, because it indicated that he truly was the Son of God. And is it not possible that these people were not truly convinced that the Spirit of God was truly within him? Otherwise, would they not have believed in him? Therefore, I must conclude that I am convinced that it may be possible to be forgiven if you are acting in ignorance when "blaspheming the Holy Ghost" if you do not see the work of God being done through someone who truly has the Holy Spirit, which may not even be considered blasphemy of the Holy Ghost, because blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is just that, it is speaking evil against what you know to be the Holy Spirit of God, and I am fully convinced that you surely can and will be forgiven if you slip in thought and think something negative against the Holy Ghost unintentionally, because based on experience, I know that the devil can and surely does like to tempt some people, esp true followers of God to commit a sin that cannot be forgiven that they may be forever condemned, which is why he tempts the followers of God in the first place, because he wants to see us condemned. If, upon being tempted in spirit and/or mind, we think about the occasion of possibly blaspheming the Holy Ghost unintentionally, we need not be paranoid, God won't count it against us, but we surely ought to be somewhat careful about such a thing. We ought to never let it slip from our mouths if being tempted to do so, for that would be giving into temptation. But again, let's not be overly paranoid to the point of being dangerously careful in our minds not to even think about it, for if you do so unintentionally within your mind, God can and will forgive you. The heart has to be behind such a sin, it must be deliberate. So be careful, but not too careful. This is a lesson I learned, because I tormented myself about not even thinking about it when being tempted, I realized I was tempted and I started getting really paranoid about not even thinking about it, which caused me to think about it even more till the point where I kept on thinking it, which taught me to trust and have more faith in the truth and the Holy Spirit in itself.

But, no, it cannot be forgiven, for such a sin is what truly "dilutes the act of God" in that it is an attempt to hinder God's truth and disgrace the Holy Spirit who is perfect and is the glue that unites God's followers as one and perfects us in holiness. He is the one who leads us closer to God. Nothing evil ever ought to be spoken of him.
 
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who was the father to joseph(jesus father) please help me

Um, that's kind irrelevant to the posted topic, but according to the records i've found, his father's name was Jacob.

If you wanna ask such a question, you can always post another thread on the forum to ask it. Please stay on topic.
 
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Is saying holy crap or the word holy affixed to a curse word blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and unforgivable?
Many people wonder what the “unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit” is. In the original Greek the word sin here is “blasphemos”, which in Greek means a “profanation”, an exposure of special knowledge.
It is obvious that in the universe everything is trying to run down to undifferentiate into nothingness, or some are being built up by that which is running down. Our person is a closed circuit in the arising reticular formation of the medulla oblongata of the brain.
Whatever undifferentiates this circuit causes pleasure. Ultimately it can undifferentiate into nothingness. There is a veil in the brain which veils the great satisfaction of deep sleep and other common causes of unconsciousness. Pleasures override this veil.
There is a secret sound, called the “lost word” which gives you moments of near nonexistence. If the nonexistence was total you would remain permanently nonexistent. This sound is the cylindrical sound. It induces other closed circuits which, by the attraction of confluency, causes the personal closed circuit some undifferentiation, which is that euphoria called “nirvana”. The “lost word” bypasses that veil, and shows that nonexistence will be the total satisfaction of all desires.
There is a Hebrew word, which is called “onomatopoeic”, which means that it sounds like that which is described. It is the “lost word”, which means a “well”, a hollow cylinder, spelled “aleph yod nun”, translated, “ain”, but pronounced “eyennn…, like the German word for one, “ein”.
Ain also means nothingness, that which is sampled by paying attention to this sound; and an eye, and a ring. When meditating upon this sound you will also see inside your closed eyelids concentric rings, like an eye, with black in the middle, then around that, rings of violet, blue, green, yellow, orange, red, and outside that, brown.
Knowing that the satisfaction from undifferentiation into nonexistence is infinitely greater than any possible joy of a billionaire, is the special secret of the Holy Spirit. In the one substance, energy, motion can only be in closed circuitry, that there be something to move out of the way and fill in behind. Everything is ultimately composed of closed circuits.
The true opposite polarities are the direction of this circuitry: counterclockwise (male) on one side, and, clockwise (female) on the other side. The iron in the cytochromes of every cell are magnetically polarized, facing out, counterclockwise in males, and, clockwise in females.
Undifferentiation of circuits by the undifferentiation provided by confluency (counterclockwise and clockwise are confluent when face to face) is polarity cancellation. A very fast polarity cancellation rate is fire. A fast polarity cancellation rate is identical with a fast entropy production rate, which is an analogue of velocity in mechanics, and likewise, but without the gravitational component, accesses globally bent timespace. The Underworld is in globally bent timespace.
So, those who “know where it’s at”, know the secret of the Holy Spirit, don’t want immortality. They are “unforgivable” for they don’t want to be saved. They want to delve into the Lake of Fire for the orgy into permanent nonexistence, the eternal satisfaction of all desires.
 
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Is saying holy crap or the word holy affixed to a curse word blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and unforgivable?

Curse word is not unforgivable , christian can't have unforgivable sin after he accept Christ aswell so don't be bothered about it , but it does not make you free to curse , humble yourself or you will lose your rewards .
 
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