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So, I often hear about parishes or congregations in various churches or denominations that replace the Nicene or Apostles creed in their liturgy with some sort of modern language or progressive creed that they've come up with or gotten from somewhere. In practice, I've never seen anyone actually recite one of those modern creeds in a liturgical setting. I went to an Episcopalian Eucharist for Christmas Eve once or twice that skipped the Nicene Creed after the sermon and went directly to the sign of peace (That's where they have the sign of peace in the liturgy- which interestingly is where Pope Benedict wrote that he'd like to put it in the Roman Catholic mass when he was just Cardinal Ratzinger, but didn't wind up implementing as Pope for whatever reason. I agree with Pope Benedict on that one. I didn't like some of the actual liturgical changes to the ordinary form of the mass that were implemented in the English speaking world when he was Pope, but I did like his idea about the sign of peace near the offertory that he didn't implement.) and the offertory, but they didn't replace it with anything (That's not normal for the Episcopal Church, by the way- the Nicene Creed is there in their Book of Common Prayer, the parish just decided to skip it).
Anyway, I probably have read one or two of these new more modern or progressive creeds somewhere along the way over the years, but I can't remember them.
That leads to my question:
Does anyone have one they can post or link to? I'd like to see what people are actually reciting or talking about reciting. It can be a creed that someone has proposed but that no one uses or one that's actually used- both are fine. If you know the source for the creed, please mention it, but if you aren't sure, go ahead and post it anyway and just say you don't know. If you can't find it written out, it's fine to type it from memory, but just make a little notation that it's from memory so we'll know not to hold it against the original source where it came from if something seems off, since it might have been misremembered.
If you want to make your own, I guess you can do that, too, just make sure to tell us that you made it up and that no one is actually using it.
I say modern or progressive just because in theory someone could have a modern creed that isn't particularly progressive. I've always heard of the newer creeds being progressive, and of course in the Liberal Catholic form, our interest is probably primarily in progressive, but if you know of one that's new and isn't progressive, you can post that, too.
Anyway, I probably have read one or two of these new more modern or progressive creeds somewhere along the way over the years, but I can't remember them.
That leads to my question:
Does anyone have one they can post or link to? I'd like to see what people are actually reciting or talking about reciting. It can be a creed that someone has proposed but that no one uses or one that's actually used- both are fine. If you know the source for the creed, please mention it, but if you aren't sure, go ahead and post it anyway and just say you don't know. If you can't find it written out, it's fine to type it from memory, but just make a little notation that it's from memory so we'll know not to hold it against the original source where it came from if something seems off, since it might have been misremembered.
If you want to make your own, I guess you can do that, too, just make sure to tell us that you made it up and that no one is actually using it.
I say modern or progressive just because in theory someone could have a modern creed that isn't particularly progressive. I've always heard of the newer creeds being progressive, and of course in the Liberal Catholic form, our interest is probably primarily in progressive, but if you know of one that's new and isn't progressive, you can post that, too.
