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Andy Ogles (R-TN) Introduces Articles of Impeachment for VP Harris for non-existent crime in her non-existent role as "border czar"

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Having seen how successful the impeachment of DHS Secretary Mayorkas was over border issues, Andy Ogles has gone back to the well.

'Never heard anything so ridiculous': Rep. mocked over effort to impeach Harris

Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN) introduced articles of impeachment against Vice President Kamala Harris on Tuesday, following a House GOP caucus meeting in which members frantically strategized over how to stop momentum for Harris' newly kicked-off presidential campaign.

The impeachment articles proclaim that Harris has committed high crimes and misdemeanors through "incompetence" in her role as "border czar" (a position she has never actually had) and then proceeded to cite several anecdotes of women killed by unauthorized migrants

Nowhere in the resolution does it list a purported act of misconduct or abuse of power by Harris — something that was noticed by commenters on social media who roundly ridiculed the measure.

"Ogles claims in this resolution that Harris is the 'designated border czar,' a nonexistent position that Biden did not name her to," wroteimmigration law expert Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, providing a link to the White House announcement on the subject. "Here is the primary source. Biden is clear that Harris agreed to lead the admin's diplomatic 'root causes' strategy only."
 
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I can smell the desperation.
Ogles is just being a good soldier for the cause. You can criticize his choice of leaders, but you have to be impressed by that kind of selfless fanaticism.
 
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Having seen how successful the impeachment of DHS Secretary Mayorkas was over border issues, Andy Ogles has gone back to the well.

'Never heard anything so ridiculous': Rep. mocked over effort to impeach Harris

Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN) introduced articles of impeachment against Vice President Kamala Harris on Tuesday, following a House GOP caucus meeting in which members frantically strategized over how to stop momentum for Harris' newly kicked-off presidential campaign.

The impeachment articles proclaim that Harris has committed high crimes and misdemeanors through "incompetence" in her role as "border czar" (a position she has never actually had) and then proceeded to cite several anecdotes of women killed by unauthorized migrants

Nowhere in the resolution does it list a purported act of misconduct or abuse of power by Harris — something that was noticed by commenters on social media who roundly ridiculed the measure.

"Ogles claims in this resolution that Harris is the 'designated border czar,' a nonexistent position that Biden did not name her to," wroteimmigration law expert Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, providing a link to the White House announcement on the subject. "Here is the primary source. Biden is clear that Harris agreed to lead the admin's diplomatic 'root causes' strategy only."

It's a pretty lame impeachment.

If being bad at your job was an impeachable offense....most of the executive branch and Biden would be gone.
 
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If being bad at your job was an impeachable offense...
Or in this case, being blamed for a job she actually didn't have.

But Trump's handlers are doing the best they can with what they have, I suppose.
 
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She wasn't border czar?
Nope. Did you honestly fall for that story?

First, Harris was never given the portfolio of border czar, said Alan Bersin, who embraced the label as a special representative for border affairs under Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. "This was not the job assigned to VP Harris," he said.

Instead, Biden asked Harris to lead diplomatic efforts to reduce poverty, violence and corruption in Central America's Northern Triangle countries of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, as well as engage with Mexico on the issue.


Trump's handlers think people are stupid and won't check their claims. Don't encourage them.

I understand it's an informal delegation but it was laid out pretty clearly when it happened.
Nope. See above. She was tasked with trying to address the causes of illegal immigration in Central America. Nothing to do with the border.

Biden himself submitted a request to Congress to put more border patrol officers on the border, which would have actually worked. Trump told republicans to kill it in the House, and so they did.

That's the story. When people fall for the hoax, they'll try it again. Be more skeptical. Assuming you were fooled...
 
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Nope. Did you honestly fall for that story?

Yeah...AP news leans liberal but it's typically facts.


First, Harris was never given the portfolio of border czar, said Alan Bersin, who embraced the label as a special representative for border affairs under Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. "This was not the job assigned to VP Harris," he said.

Oh...some other guy said she wasn't.



Instead, Biden asked Harris to lead diplomatic efforts to reduce poverty, violence and corruption in Central America's Northern Triangle countries of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, as well as engage with Mexico on the issue.

In the article it sounds as if that's exactly what the border czar does.





Wait...this is published in an election year. You didn't believe this, did you?


Nope. See above. She was tasked with trying to address the causes of illegal immigration in Central America.

How did she do lol?
 
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Having seen how successful the impeachment of DHS Secretary Mayorkas was over border issues, Andy Ogles has gone back to the well.

'Never heard anything so ridiculous': Rep. mocked over effort to impeach Harris

Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN) introduced articles of impeachment against Vice President Kamala Harris on Tuesday, following a House GOP caucus meeting in which members frantically strategized over how to stop momentum for Harris' newly kicked-off presidential campaign.

The impeachment articles proclaim that Harris has committed high crimes and misdemeanors through "incompetence" in her role as "border czar" (a position she has never actually had) and then proceeded to cite several anecdotes of women killed by unauthorized migrants

Nowhere in the resolution does it list a purported act of misconduct or abuse of power by Harris — something that was noticed by commenters on social media who roundly ridiculed the measure.

"Ogles claims in this resolution that Harris is the 'designated border czar,' a nonexistent position that Biden did not name her to," wroteimmigration law expert Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, providing a link to the White House announcement on the subject. "Here is the primary source. Biden is clear that Harris agreed to lead the admin's diplomatic 'root causes' strategy only."
This spaghetti is done, no need to throw it on the wall.
 
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Finally, an accounting of "weaponizing the government" without evidence for political reasons.
This is the first incident I've seen that accurately deserves the term.
Picture these minions plotting their next Big Move, this Representative wunderkind puts me in mind of Bugs Bunny asking himself, “what other deviltry can I do?”

It’s amateur night and has been for seven long years!
 
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Instead, Biden asked Harris to lead diplomatic efforts to reduce poverty, violence and corruption in Central America's Northern Triangle countries of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, as well as engage with Mexico on the issue.

In the article it sounds as if that's exactly what the border czar does.
I would have thought that it would deal with how to secure the border.


You didn't believe this, did you?
Reuters has a very good record for accuracy. I'm kinda biased that way.

Nope. See above. She was tasked with trying to address the causes of illegal immigration in Central America.

How did she do lol?
Pretty well.

Mexico is stopping nearly three times as many migrants who have crossed its southern border as it was a year ago, a trend that U.S. officials say has helped blunt the surge in crossings of the U.S. border usually seen at this time of year.

Biden administration officials also point to the increased help from Mexico in slowing migration as proof that their relationship with their southern neighbors is more effective than the Trump administration’s.


The Biden administration is opening “processing centers” in Central and South American countries that will let migrants apply to come to the U.S. legally as part of an effort to drive down illegal migration across the U.S.-Mexico border, three senior administration officials told reporters Thursday.

The first processing centers will be operated by international organizations partnering with the U.S. and opened in Guatemala and Colombia in the coming weeks, the officials said.

“Individuals will speak to specialists to be screened and if eligible … they’ll be referred for refugee resettlement or other lawful pathways, such as parole programs, family reunification or existing labor pathways,” a senior administration official said. The centers may also provide migrants with social services or pathways to resettle in Canada, Spain or countries in their region.


The last was sort of an end run around Trump and the House republicans, who opposed increasing the number of Border Patrol agents and the number of courts processing asylum applications, which would have sped up removal of those unqualified. Now, much of it's being done in-country. Probably infuriating to Trump's people, who tried so hard to stop any limitation of illegal immigration.


I know... "Pravda didn't carry that story."
 
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She wasn't border czar?


I understand it's an informal delegation but it was laid out pretty clearly when it happened.
Right. "...work with Central American nations to address root causes of the problem." Apparently she saw some success with it.
 
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Right. "...work with Central American nations to address root causes of the problem." Apparently she saw some success with it.
And with Mexico, which is taking action to reduce the number of people reaching the border. When the republicans blocked Biden's attempt to add more Border Patrol Officers, Harris negotiated with Mexico and other nations to reduce the number coming to the border.
 
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Instead, Biden asked Harris to lead diplomatic efforts to reduce poverty, violence and corruption in Central America's Northern Triangle countries of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, as well as engage with Mexico on the issue.

From the AP story where Biden named Harris border czar....

Harris is tasked with overseeing diplomatic efforts to deal with issues spurring migration in the Northern Triangle countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, as well as pressing them to strengthen enforcement on their own borders, administration officials said. She’s also tasked with developing and implementing a long-term strategy that gets at the root causes of migration from those countries.

See? We don't even disagree. That's what a border czar is...that's what a border czar does.



I would have thought that it would deal with how to secure the border.

Democrats don't secure borders....they offer countries money for promises they send their poor.


Pretty well.

Pretty well....



10 million.

This administration quite literally has the worst border record of anyone's lifetime and you said "pretty well".

Look...I understand you're out stumping for Harris...for some reason...but you're not an idiot. You know she was named border czar....right? It should have stuck out as one of the only tasks she was given. They kept asking her back in 2021 if she had visited the border....if she intended to visit the border.....



Regardless....worst record on illegal immigration in modern history. Most criminals, most terrorists, most children trafficked, etc.


You understand that the fake spin on Harris not being border czar is 100% false, right? Whether or not you participate in spreading misinformation....you still understand it's misinformation, right?
 
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Right. "...work with Central American nations to address root causes of the problem." Apparently she saw some success with it.

Saw some success?

10 million people crossed under her term. That's a record. That's more than everyone who crossed under Trump....and Obama combined!

It's abject failure.
 
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Saw some success?

10 million people crossed under her term. That's a record. That's more than everyone who crossed under Trump....and Obama combined!

It's abject failure.
And fewer of them came from the countries she visited. But how many of those ten million are asylum seekers?
 
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