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Abolishing Dept. of Education Will Be ‘Tremendous for our States’: State Education Official

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Some officials wait in trepidation to find out if President-elect Donald Trump will follow through with his campaign promise to abolish the Department of Education. Some wait with glee.

In an online video posted last July, then-candidate Trump promised that, if elected, “very early in the administration” he would begin “closing up the Department of Education in Washington, D.C., and sending all education and education work and needs back to the states. We want them to run the education of our children, because they’ll do a much better job of it. You can’t do worse.”

The promise echoes back to 1980, when Ronald Reagan promised to close the department, which President Jimmy Carter opened that May. Bob Dole made the same promise in 1996. But Trump’s allies believe the 47th president will be the man to follow through. “In his first term, President Trump moved the U.S. embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, as so many Republican candidates had promised before him. I am hopeful that closing the Department of Education will be President Trump’s second term version of that long-term promise keeping,” Meg Kilgannon, senior fellow for Education Studies at Family Research Council and a former Trump administration education official, told The Washington Stand. “Nearly every Republican candidate for president has campaigned on this. It’s time to make good on that promise.”

Officials at the state level are already planning ways they can improve the quality of education once the federal government no longer dictates the curriculum, standards, and conduct.

“When he eliminates the federal Department of Education, it is going to be tremendous for our states,” Oklahoma Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters told “Washington Watch with Tony Perkins” on Tuesday. “Literally every educational statistic has gotten worse since Jimmy Carter created the Department of Education.”

The most recent “Nation’s Report Card” — the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)’s long-term trends exam (LTT) — found that the average 13-year-old student’s math scores ranked the lowest in more than three decades. The number of high school seniors who did not read a single book for pleasure in the last year nearly quadrupled between 1976 and 2021-2022.

The United States is losing ground compared to other nations. “In 2022, there were 5 education systems with higher average reading literacy scores for 15-year-olds than the United States, 25 with higher mathematics literacy scores, and 9 with higher science literacy scores,” reported the National Center for Education Statistics, analyzing data from the Program for International Student Assessment (PISA), coordinated by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). In the first year of PISA, 2000, only three nations had higher average reading literacy scores than the U.S., eight outperformed the U.S. in mathematics, and seven countries did better in science literacy.

The Department of Education “was formed to close the achievement gaps, and they have not budged one little bit,” former Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos told Newsmax on Tuesday. American taxpayers “spent over $1 trillion … trying to do it, and we’ve gotten nothing but worse results. It’s time to do something different.”

Education results declined as per-pupil government education spending rose from $11,221 in 1979 to $17,700 in 2023 in inflation-adjusted dollars. The Biden-Harris administration boasted of the “largest annual spike in public school spending in over 20 years,” when per pupil spending increased 8.9% between 2021 and 2022. President Joe Biden — a longtime labor union ally who boasts that his wife, Jill, belongs to a teacher’s union — requested $90 billion in discretionary spending in his most recent budget, an increase of $10.8 billion or 13.6%. Congress appropriated $79.1 billion in fiscal year 2024.
 

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Some officials wait in trepidation to find out if President-elect Donald Trump will follow through with his campaign promise to abolish the Department of Education. Some wait with glee.

In an online video posted last July, then-candidate Trump promised that, if elected, “very early in the administration” he would begin “closing up the Department of Education in Washington, D.C., and sending all education and education work and needs back to the states. We want them to run the education of our children, because they’ll do a much better job of it. You can’t do worse.”

The promise echoes back to 1980, when Ronald Reagan promised to close the department, which President Jimmy Carter opened that May. Bob Dole made the same promise in 1996. But Trump’s allies believe the 47th president will be the man to follow through. “In his first term, President Trump moved the U.S. embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, as so many Republican candidates had promised before him. I am hopeful that closing the Department of Education will be President Trump’s second term version of that long-term promise keeping,” Meg Kilgannon, senior fellow for Education Studies at Family Research Council and a former Trump administration education official, told The Washington Stand. “Nearly every Republican candidate for president has campaigned on this. It’s time to make good on that promise.”

Officials at the state level are already planning ways they can improve the quality of education once the federal government no longer dictates the curriculum, standards, and conduct.

“When he eliminates the federal Department of Education, it is going to be tremendous for our states,” Oklahoma Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters told “Washington Watch with Tony Perkins” on Tuesday. “Literally every educational statistic has gotten worse since Jimmy Carter created the Department of Education.”

The most recent “Nation’s Report Card” — the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)’s long-term trends exam (LTT) — found that the average 13-year-old student’s math scores ranked the lowest in more than three decades. The number of high school seniors who did not read a single book for pleasure in the last year nearly quadrupled between 1976 and 2021-2022.

The United States is losing ground compared to other nations. “In 2022, there were 5 education systems with higher average reading literacy scores for 15-year-olds than the United States, 25 with higher mathematics literacy scores, and 9 with higher science literacy scores,” reported the National Center for Education Statistics, analyzing data from the Program for International Student Assessment (PISA), coordinated by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). In the first year of PISA, 2000, only three nations had higher average reading literacy scores than the U.S., eight outperformed the U.S. in mathematics, and seven countries did better in science literacy.

The Department of Education “was formed to close the achievement gaps, and they have not budged one little bit,” former Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos told Newsmax on Tuesday. American taxpayers “spent over $1 trillion … trying to do it, and we’ve gotten nothing but worse results. It’s time to do something different.”

Education results declined as per-pupil government education spending rose from $11,221 in 1979 to $17,700 in 2023 in inflation-adjusted dollars. The Biden-Harris administration boasted of the “largest annual spike in public school spending in over 20 years,” when per pupil spending increased 8.9% between 2021 and 2022. President Joe Biden — a longtime labor union ally who boasts that his wife, Jill, belongs to a teacher’s union — requested $90 billion in discretionary spending in his most recent budget, an increase of $10.8 billion or 13.6%. Congress appropriated $79.1 billion in fiscal year 2024.
I suspect the funds alocated to the ED by congress for grants and loans will disappear as well. Unfortunate for 55% of students seeking higher education. Be careful what you wish for. These funds will no longer be available and states will have to backfill. Disparity will worsen.
 
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I suspect the funds alocated to the ED by congress for grants and loans will disappear as well. Unfortunate for 55% of students seeking higher education. Be careful what you wish for. These funds will no longer be available and states will have to backfill. Disparity will worsen.
That will be seen as a feature, not a bug.
 
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I suspect the funds alocated to the ED by congress for grants and loans will disappear as well. Unfortunate for 55% of students seeking higher education. Be careful what you wish for. These funds will no longer be available and states will have to backfill. Disparity will worsen.
Why couldn't banks fill in the gap? It would be a great opportunity for lending institutions to get directly involved - the only difference is that the students and parents would have to be the guarantors. No free bail outs, which would be a direct benefit to tax payers.

Federal Grants could come under budgeting in Congress.
 
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Why couldn't banks fill in the gap? It would be a great opportunity for lending institutions to get directly involved - the only difference is that the students and parents would have to be the guarantors. No free bail outs, which would be a direct benefit to tax payers.

Federal Grants could come under budgeting in Congress.
Banks are already involved taking advantage of students and their parents. Did you miss all the fuss about crippling student loans that take decades to pay off?
 
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Banks are already involved taking advantage of students and their parents. Did you miss all the fuss about crippling student loans that take decades to pay off?
Funny thing is - when dealing with a bank the terms - interest rate - length of loan - payments per month for how many months are all in writing. You have to read it and then sign the form saying you agree to the terms - you know ahead of time what you are agreeing to.

Banks are not responsible for your poor judgement. When a student loan is 'forgiven' - it is still paid - by all of us.
 
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Funny thing is - when dealing with a bank the terms - interest rate - length of loan - payments per month for how many months are all in writing. You have to read it and then sign the form saying you agree to the terms - you know ahead of time what you are agreeing to.

Banks are not responsible for your poor judgement. When a student loan is 'forgiven' - it is still paid - by all of us.
My point is that relying on high interest loans to fund the higher education of successive generations and the resulting personal debt does us all an economic disfavor. Rather we should investing in the education of our future to keep the costs reasonable.
 
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Some officials wait in trepidation to find out if President-elect Donald Trump will follow through with his campaign promise to abolish the Department of Education. Some wait with glee.

In an online video posted last July, then-candidate Trump promised that, if elected, “very early in the administration” he would begin “closing up the Department of Education in Washington, D.C., and sending all education and education work and needs back to the states. We want them to run the education of our children, because they’ll do a much better job of it. You can’t do worse.”

The promise echoes back to 1980, when Ronald Reagan promised to close the department, which President Jimmy Carter opened that May. Bob Dole made the same promise in 1996. But Trump’s allies believe the 47th president will be the man to follow through. “In his first term, President Trump moved the U.S. embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, as so many Republican candidates had promised before him. I am hopeful that closing the Department of Education will be President Trump’s second term version of that long-term promise keeping,” Meg Kilgannon, senior fellow for Education Studies at Family Research Council and a former Trump administration education official, told The Washington Stand. “Nearly every Republican candidate for president has campaigned on this. It’s time to make good on that promise.”

Officials at the state level are already planning ways they can improve the quality of education once the federal government no longer dictates the curriculum, standards, and conduct.

“When he eliminates the federal Department of Education, it is going to be tremendous for our states,” Oklahoma Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters told “Washington Watch with Tony Perkins” on Tuesday. “Literally every educational statistic has gotten worse since Jimmy Carter created the Department of Education.”

The most recent “Nation’s Report Card” — the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)’s long-term trends exam (LTT) — found that the average 13-year-old student’s math scores ranked the lowest in more than three decades. The number of high school seniors who did not read a single book for pleasure in the last year nearly quadrupled between 1976 and 2021-2022.

The United States is losing ground compared to other nations. “In 2022, there were 5 education systems with higher average reading literacy scores for 15-year-olds than the United States, 25 with higher mathematics literacy scores, and 9 with higher science literacy scores,” reported the National Center for Education Statistics, analyzing data from the Program for International Student Assessment (PISA), coordinated by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). In the first year of PISA, 2000, only three nations had higher average reading literacy scores than the U.S., eight outperformed the U.S. in mathematics, and seven countries did better in science literacy.

The Department of Education “was formed to close the achievement gaps, and they have not budged one little bit,” former Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos told Newsmax on Tuesday. American taxpayers “spent over $1 trillion … trying to do it, and we’ve gotten nothing but worse results. It’s time to do something different.”

Education results declined as per-pupil government education spending rose from $11,221 in 1979 to $17,700 in 2023 in inflation-adjusted dollars. The Biden-Harris administration boasted of the “largest annual spike in public school spending in over 20 years,” when per pupil spending increased 8.9% between 2021 and 2022. President Joe Biden — a longtime labor union ally who boasts that his wife, Jill, belongs to a teacher’s union — requested $90 billion in discretionary spending in his most recent budget, an increase of $10.8 billion or 13.6%. Congress appropriated $79.1 billion in fiscal year 2024.
As much governing as possible should be returned to the states ... government that is closer to the people is better. It was the original vision of our founding fathers for it to be that way. By doing it this way it gives people a certain amount of choice of where they might rather live ... without it people choices are limited and that is not a good thing. Big government is less inefficient in most cases.
 
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My point is that relying on high interest loans to fund the higher education of successive generations and the resulting personal debt does us all an economic disfavor. Rather we should investing in the education of our future to keep the costs reasonable.
I agree - when banks compete for business the loan interest goes down.

Currently the average student loan is between 3.85% and 6.5% which is far lower than a car loan or mortgage.
 
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We could give each state a billion dollars..

Just think what each state could do for their schools with a billion dollars.
I can't speak for every state but
in the case of Tennessee we don't have to imagine. That would mean having to cut the education budget or the state would have to figure out how to fund an 800 million dollar shortfall.

"GOP lawmakers are talking about cutting off nearly $1.8 billion in federal education dollars.."

 
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Can you imagine how things might be if we saved 79 billion? We could give each state a billion dollars for education and still save 29 billion. Just think what each state could do for their schools with a billion dollars.
Or we could use it to reduce the budget deficit...

Naw, that would be silly.
 
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I can't speak for every state but
in the case of Tennessee we don't have to imagine. That would mean having to cut the education budget or the state would have to figure out how to fund an 800 million dollar shortfall.

"GOP lawmakers are talking about cutting off nearly $1.8 billion in federal education dollars.."

Rhe Dept of education budget is 230 billion. They give out about 100 billion to the states. Which also co.es with strings attached like what you have to teach as shown in rhe article. So let's keep the money for the states. 2 billion a state. That frees up 130 billion a year we don't have to spend and the states remain in charge of how they spend their education money.

We could use that 130 billion to help the rest of Americans. We have what 350 million people in the US? How much could we all get if each of us got a cut of that 130 billion? Think how much good that would do in our bank accounts.
 
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My point is that relying on high interest loans to fund the higher education of successive generations and the resulting personal debt does us all an economic disfavor. Rather we should investing in the education of our future to keep the costs reasonable.

The government doesn't have a good credit rating right now. (Excess debt).

Most states can get loans at lower rates.
 
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It's not money it's home culture. Most Asian parents expect their kids to be successful and the kids know it, the honor/ dishonor mentality. We are behind many countries with the money we spend on education.
 
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