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  1. Job 33:6

    FEMA missed major flood risk at Christian Camp Mystic, analysis claims to show

    I was reading that the flooding was actually greater in elevation than the flooding of the early 1900s: https://frousa.org/2025/07/07/historic-flood-data-confirms-record-breaking-rise-in-guadalupe-river/ What data were you referencing?
  2. Job 33:6

    FEMA missed major flood risk at Christian Camp Mystic, analysis claims to show

    I think the real issue here is that, in the past 50 or 100+ years, no one has seen flash flooding like that along that particular river. But simultaneously, it's not clear why a kids camp would even be built literally in the middle of multiple meandering streams to begin with. There is...
  3. Job 33:6

    FEMA missed major flood risk at Christian Camp Mystic, analysis claims to show

    Wait, you mean the real floodplains were 20 feet further inland than what the maps depicted?!?
  4. Job 33:6

    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    "These practical features offered ready metaphors for overflowing water, cascading grain, or descending birds." I would say, the point here is that literalists cherry pick and pick and choose when they want to take passages literally, and when they do not. Rather than grounding their...
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    This video is helpful on the topic, it gives a list of parallels early in the video (54 seconds in), then continues on to Genesis 9. You can find a lot of commentaries noting this as well. Such as the Genesis commentary by Claus Westermann. Genesis 9:6 NET [6] “Whoever sheds human blood, by...
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    Noah was the second Adam of course. Delivered through the waters much like Moses. Genesis chapter 1 paralleled chapter 9 as well, and several motifs of the flood narrative follow those of the creation story.
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    I'll have to check out these resources. Thanks.
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    My definition, which aligns with 99% of Biblical scholarship today, is perfectly fine. Thanks. And you're welcome to cope all day on the topic. But the Bible says what it says. There is nothing scientific about the sky being a solid dome or windows of the sky opening and closing to let water...
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    You're misunderstanding what ancient Israelite cosmology is. It has nothing to do with science. https://www.logos.com/grow/ancients-guide-galaxy-israelites-viewed-god-universe/ Cosmology in ancient context is how people in the past understood and described the world and the heavens based on...
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    Did I say something about Moses using science to discover things? Also, the Mt DNA eve additionally doesn't make sense in that there have been many Mt DNA eves, not just one.
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    The Bible is not a science textbook. All of your counterpoints avoid addressing the Bible on its own terms. The Bible is not communicating in a modern scientific genre. I don't think that the Bible is communicating any modern scientific information because that's not what the Bible is about.
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    Moses lived over 2,000 years ago. And he wouldn't have known about evolution when writing Genesis. For that reason, I wouldn't expect the Bible to talk about it. Aside from living things being nephesh, the term for souls. I'm not sure that the old testament offers a description of when...
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    And yet every biologist on planet earth has mysteriously missed that all people originated from one woman? Oh that's right: From wiki on mitochondrial Eve: "In terms of mitochondrial haplogroups, the mt-MRCA is situated at the divergence of macro-haplogroup L into L0 and L1–6. As of 2013...
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    You need to learn about the Bible:
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    For the literalists, behold, the Bible as it truly is: Those who try to turn it into modern science, are the true denialists of God's Word.
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    Geneologies in the ancient world are not like geneologies of 21st century DNA tests. Even in the Bible, you have geneologies that are leaving people out. Some contradict one another. Mathew organizes his geneologies, omitting certain people, so that they match in number 14s as well. In the...
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    Michael Heiser understands that Genesis describes an ancient Israelite cosmology, not modern science. He takes the Bible literally, but he also doesn't confuse it with modern science and biology.
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    Strong wasn't an ancient Israelite. This is a false argument. I view Adam as the first man to be chosen by God. Not biologically the first man. Just as with the fish, birds, and other animals of Genesis, God need not begin with just 1 man and 1 woman. Yup. And in Genesis 1, it's not talking...
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    And this doesn't contradict verse 28 that they were given dominion over animals as well. You then proceeded to ignore the entire dietary law syntax outlined in my prior post. If you are going to ignore me, then I'll just ignore you. The rest of your post is just a strawman. I never said that...
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    Exploring the Relationship Between Adam's Initial Immortality and the Age of the Earth

    And in verse 28, God gave mankind dominion over the animals. This verse doesn't contradict verse 28. This is fine. But this doesn't exclude consumption of meat. The ground is cursed, and people are going to have to work for their food. Obviously Adam didn't just live off of bread after the...
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