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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    See post #259.
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    Perhaps you could present an example of your (false) allegation. . . Threatening now?
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    Yes, Matthew is retelling Hosea, he's not retelling Isaiah, and is applying it to Jesus. See post #259.
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    See post #259.
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    You also need to look up "red herring." It has to do with the context of the immediate argument.
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    Yes, the quotation originally referred to God's calling the nation out of Israel in the time of Moses. Do you not realize that by inspiration Matthew applies it to Jesus also? That he sees the history of Israel (God's children) briefly restated in the life of Jesus (God's unique Son). That just...
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    Really? . . .are you sure about that? Really? . . . That both Ps 68:18 and Hos apply to Eph 4 and Mt, respectively, negates their meaning/application in their own context? Explains a lot. . .
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    Red herring. . . The immedite point is not the historicity of Adam. . .it's about Paul's view of Adam, as actual or only figurative. Paul presents Adam as actual (e.g., Ro 5:12-17,1 Co 15:45) and, therefore, figurative. And having received his revelation from Jesus Christ, personally (2 Co...
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    Genesis is plain to see. Paul demonstrates the meaning of that plainness.
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    None of which negates Paul's usage of Adam as actual. . . Meant to write "your reading Paul out of context" in post #244. The gospel of Luke (Paul) makes that context clear (Lk 3:23-33).
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    Red herring. . .
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    And if your baseline assumption is that Paul did not view Adam as actual, then you're reading Paul out of context. The gospel of Paul (Luke) makes that clear in Lk 3:23-33.
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    None of which negates Paul's usage of Adam as actual. . . Who woulda' tho't it?
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    None of which negates Paul's usage of Adam as actual. . .
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    It's not about what is required, its about what Paul actually meant.
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    Gleaning up the excess billions.

    Keeping in mind that those laws were given to the people of God, for the governance of the people of God. They were not given to the world.
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    That explains a lot. . .
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    Smug? . .not a good look. . .among other important things. Please present modern science's proof of the origin of man which contradicts the Genesis account.
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    AND WHAT IS 1 THESS 4:13-17 SAYINF FOR TODAY /

    That would be three mentions of the same resurrection at the end of time.
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    Why believing in a literal Adam and Eve matters

    Paul's point is the reality of the origin of sin in humanity and the reality of its remedy. Still not understanding the need to understand Genesis any differently. Which modern science has no proof of the origin of man which contradicts the Genesis account.
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