WHAT DOES IT , MEAN TO BE BORN OF GOD OR TO BE BORN AGAIN ?

Dan Perez · Saturday at 6:49 PM

I have seen that one poster said he was BORN of God or was it BORN AGAIN ?

Just what verse did that come FROM ??

dan p

d taylor · Saturday at 8:30 PM

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Born again happens when a person believes in Jesus for Eternal Life. They were born physically alive by water birth from their mother. When they believe in Jesus they are born a second time of God, which is a spiritual birth. The birth of The permanent Life of God in the person who has believed in Jesus.

For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

Dan Perez · Saturday at 9:23 PM

d taylor said:
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Born again happens when a person believes in Jesus for Eternal Life. They were born physically alive by water birth from their mother. When they believe in Jesus they are born a second time of God, which is a spiritual birth. The birth of The permanent Life of God in the person who has believed in Jesus.

For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

And I sure would like to see a verse , if you write a verse where that is found that explains what it means , please !!

dan p

d taylor · Saturday at 9:54 PM

Dan Perez said:
And I sure would like to see a verse , if you write a verse where that is found that explains what it means , please !!

dan p

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What do you think the bold type is

fhansen · Saturday at 10:40 PM

1 John 5 and John 3. It means to turn away from the world with its false values and enter union/relationship with the true and living God as we come to know and embrace Him by faith, via His Son who came to reveal and reconcile us with Him. And while this is certainly a "game-changer" for humans, some wish to make it into some kind of permanently dramatic change in both status and being-as if they could never turn back away, as if they could not compromise and reject that relationship, that sonship. And while God certainly changes a believer, that change also gradually increases, growing by virtue of our remaining in Him, picking up our cross and following, "investing our talents". Or not. It's all both a gift, and our choice, our daily choice born out by how we live now, how we love to put it best. That what His famly does.

d taylor · Saturday at 11:10 PM

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Read John Chapter 3

Dan Perez · Saturday at 11:46 PM

d taylor said:
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What do you think the bold type is

# 1 and here is the first verse that INTRIGUES me and no one has explained what it means , in John 3:5 and said

Except a man be BORN of WATER and of the SPIRIT , he can enter the kingdom of God !

Just wonder if this for today "

What kingdom is it talking about ??

And does it mean that you are saved ?

AND here is and other verse that really should INTRIGUE you in 1 John 5:18 and says , WE know that whosoever

is BORN OF GOD , sinneth NOT // OU , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICIPLE NEGATIVE , and means no one will EVER sin AGAIN ?

Also is it speaking to the BODY of CHRIST ?

Or is it SPEAKING to Israel ?

And what period of TIME ??

Need your thoughts ??

dan p

d taylor · 2025-04-27T00:56:14-0500

Dan Perez said:
# 1 and here is the first verse that INTRIGUES me and no one has explained what it means , in John 3:5 and said

Except a man be BORN of WATER and of the SPIRIT , he can enter the kingdom of God !

Just wonder if this for today "

What kingdom is it talking about ??

And does it mean that you are saved ?

AND here is and other verse that really should INTRIGUE you in 1 John 5:18 and says , WE know that whosoever

is BORN OF GOD , sinneth NOT // OU , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICIPLE NEGATIVE , and means no one will EVER sin AGAIN ?

Also is it speaking to the BODY of CHRIST ?

Or is it SPEAKING to Israel ?

And what period of TIME ??

Need your thoughts ??

dan p

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My post #2 gives my thoughts

Ivan Hlavanda · 2025-04-27T02:51:50-0500

Dan Perez said:
I have seen that one poster said he was BORN of God or was it BORN AGAIN ?

Just what verse did that come FROM ??

dan p

1. John 5:1, “Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well.”

The term born of God closely mirrors Jesus’ words in John 3:3 when He told Nicodemus that he must be “born again” or, in some translations, “born from above.” Nicodemus responded the way anyone would. He asked, “How can someone be born when they are old?” Jesus said, “The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit”

The Greek word for “wind” is pneuma, the same word used for “spirit.” When wind blows, we cannot see it, but we see where it has been. Tree leaves move, plants bend, and we feel the wind touch our faces. Yet no one can catch it or restrain it. When wind blows, it changes everything it touches. So it is with the Spirit. Spiritual birth is an act of the Holy Spirit. He is invisible, yet whenever He moves, there are definite changes. Neither persuasive words nor intellectual agreements have the power to make someone “born of God.” Only the Holy Spirit can perform that transformation in a repentant heart.

So how does one become born again, or born of God? Jesus used an earthly metaphor to explain a spiritual idea. When a baby is born, a new life emerges that did not previously exist. The baby is a brand-new being who begins to grow to look like the parents. A puppy grows up to look like a dog. A calf grows to look like a cow. An infant grows to look like an adult human. So it is with those born of God.

2 Cor 5:17 says that, if anyone is in Christ, he is a “new creature.”
In John 3, Jesus explains how to become born of God: “Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but shall have everlasting life” . When we are born into the family of God, we grow to look more like our Father. When we are born of God, we have a new heart, one that wants to please God.

BobRyan · 2025-04-27T06:17:56-0500

Dan Perez said:
I have seen that one poster said he was BORN of God or was it BORN AGAIN ?

Just what verse did that come FROM ??

dan p

John 3 - has them both

Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews; 2 this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.” 3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

4 Nicodemus *said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born, can he?” 5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

God causes the new birth -- it is a direct miracle of God
Rev 3 "I stand at the door and knock - if anyone hears and opens the door --- I WILL COME IN"

God will do the miracle if we will listen and open the door.

Danthemailman · 2025-04-27T07:05:31-0500

1 Peter 1:23 - having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever.
Ephesians 5:26 - that He might sanctify and cleanse her (the church) with the washing of water by the word.
John 15:3 - You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.

Maria Billingsley · 2025-04-27T08:14:56-0500

Dan Perez said:
I have seen that one poster said he was BORN of God or was it BORN AGAIN ?

Just what verse did that come FROM ??

dan p

Born again is receiving His Holy Spirit. He makes His Home in the believer. This is His promise for regeneration . The first step is to repent from unbelief to belief.
Blessings

d taylor · 2025-04-27T08:56:20-0500

Maria Billingsley said:
Born again is receiving His Holy Spirit. He makes His Home in the believer. This is His promise for regeneration . The first step is to repent from unbelief to belief.
Blessings

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What about believers before the Holy Spirit was given, all believers in The Old Testament. I consider them being born again.

Maria Billingsley · 2025-04-27T09:38:20-0500

d taylor said:
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What about believers before the Holy Spirit was given, all believers in The Old Testament. I consider them being born again.

My understanding:

His Holy Spirit did not permanently dwell in anyone after the fall. His Holy Spirit often "came upon" the prophets to deliver a message etc. but no one was baptized with His Holy Spirit. Then Jesus Christ of Nazareth came for the loss, died for them , rose again and released His Holy Spirit upon anyone who receives Him.

" for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.”

"I baptize you with water for repentance, (John the Baptist) but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire."

th1bill · 2025-04-27T13:29:03-0500

It means you have submitted your will to Yehovah and have a new lifestyle due to the indwelling of the Ruah/Holy Spirit. For reference, prayerfully read the Book of John a few times and Yehovah will reveal the answer as you begin to fully grasp the Gospel.

Dan Perez · 2025-04-27T17:25:35-0500

d taylor said:
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Born again happens when a person believes in Jesus for Eternal Life. They were born physically alive by water birth from their mother. When they believe in Jesus they are born a second time of God, which is a spiritual birth. The birth of The permanent Life of God in the person who has believed in Jesus.

For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

And is not ROMANS 10:9 the real way to be sved , That if you should CONFESS with your MOUTH the LORD

Jesus , and should believe in your heart that God raised HIM fom the DEAD you will be SAVED .

For with the HEART he believes to RIGHTEOUSNESS and with the MOUTH HE CONFESSES TO SALVATION .

And here is another one in 1 John 5:18 , WE know that whosoever is BORN OF GOD , SINNETH

NOT // OU is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICILE NEGATIVE , which means you NEVER SIN !!

Is that true , that anyone BORN OF GOD , cannot SIN ?

dan p

d taylor · 2025-04-27T19:53:28-0500

Dan Perez said:
And is not ROMANS 10:9 the real way to be sved , That if you should CONFESS with your MOUTH the LORD

Jesus , and should believe in your heart that God raised HIM fom the DEAD you will be SAVED .

For with the HEART he believes to RIGHTEOUSNESS and with the MOUTH HE CONFESSES TO SALVATION .

And here is another one in 1 John 5:18 , WE know that whosoever is BORN OF GOD , SINNETH

NOT // OU is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICILE NEGATIVE , which means you NEVER SIN !!

Is that true , that anyone BORN OF GOD , cannot SIN ?

dan p

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No not for an unbeliever to become a born again child of God. Romans 10:9 is for believers to call on Jesus when they are in trouble from enemies of Jesus. For Jesus to save them when they face attacks from people who hate people who believe in Jesus.

Dan Perez · 2025-04-27T21:48:50-0500

d taylor said:
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My post #2 gives my thoughts

Aad no repy on John 3:5 or 1 John 5:18 ??

dan p

d taylor · 2025-04-28T00:09:35-0500

Dan Perez said:
Aad no repy on John 3:5 or 1 John 5:18 ??

dan p

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Do Born Again People Sin? – 1 John 3:9 – Grace Evangelical Society

Does God Guarantee That Believers Won’t Sin Much? (1 John 3:9; 5:18) – Grace Evangelical Society

d taylor · 2025-04-28T00:13:32-0500

Dan Perez said:
Aad no repy on John 3:5 or 1 John 5:18 ??

dan p

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What is the Meaning of “Born of Water” in John 3:5? Also, Is the Cross Enough? – Grace Evangelical Society

What Did the Lord Jesus Mean When He Spoke of Entering the Kingdom? – Grace Evangelical Society

Regeneration in the Old Testament? – Grace Evangelical Society

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