What Jesus Said About Adam and Eve

Dale · Mar 25, 2025

I hear Christians talking about Adam and Eve.
What did Jesus say about Adam and Eve?
“Adam” is not mentioned in the Gospels.
“Eve” is not mentioned in the Gospels.
The “Garden of Eden” is not mentioned in the Gospels.

Doesn’t this suggest that the Adam and Eve story is less important than many Christians think it is?

Michie · Mar 25, 2025

Not Gospels but Adam is found in Rom 5:12–21 , 1Cor 15:21–22 , 1Cor 15:45–49 , and 1Tim 2:13–14 , Eve is mentioned by name only twice: in 2Cor 11:3 and 1Tim 2:13 .

Jesus made a single, indirect reference to Adam and Eve, alluding to them as "the man" and "the woman" when discussing the creation story and the institution of marriage in Mark 10:6-7 and Matthew 19:4-5 which are part of the Gospels.

Michie · Mar 25, 2025

Luke 3:38

In one of the two New Testament genealogies of Jesus, Luke identifies Jesus as “the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli” (Luke 3:23). Luke proceeds to trace Jesus’s descent back to “Adam, the son of God”:

Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Jannai, the son of Joseph. . . . the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, . . . the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalaleel, the son of Cainan, the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God. (Luke 3:23–38)

8 New Testament Passages That Support a Historical Adam and Eve

One is not free to maintain that Adam is a mythical or semihistorical figure while Jesus Christ is a fully historical figure.

www.crossway.org

Vambram · Mar 25, 2025

Michie said:
Luke 3:38
In one of the two New Testament genealogies of Jesus, Luke identifies Jesus as “the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli” (Luke 3:23). Luke proceeds to trace Jesus’s descent back to “Adam, the son of God”:

8 New Testament Passages That Support a Historical Adam and Eve

One is not free to maintain that Adam is a mythical or semihistorical figure while Jesus Christ is a fully historical figure.

www.crossway.org

Amen!!

Dale · Mar 25, 2025

Michie said:
Not Gospels but Adam is found in Rom 5:12–21 , 1Cor 15:21–22 , 1Cor 15:45–49 , and 1Tim 2:13–14 , Eve is mentioned by name only twice: in 2Cor 11:3 and 1Tim 2:13 .

Jesus made a single, indirect reference to Adam and Eve, alluding to them as "the man" and "the woman" when discussing the creation story and the institution of marriage in Mark 10:6-7 and Matthew 19:4-5 which are part of the Gospels.

Michie said:
Luke 3:38
In one of the two New Testament genealogies of Jesus, Luke identifies Jesus as “the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli” (Luke 3:23). Luke proceeds to trace Jesus’s descent back to “Adam, the son of God”:

8 New Testament Passages That Support a Historical Adam and Eve

One is not free to maintain that Adam is a mythical or semihistorical figure while Jesus Christ is a fully historical figure.

www.crossway.org

You are correct that I should have said “except for the genealogy in Luke.” My point is that Jesus did not mention Adam and Eve, or the Garden of Eden, in His teaching.

Your quote on “the man” and “the woman” is a bit off. Genesis says that “a man” will leave his parents, not “the man,” which would be Adam. Jesus also said “a man,” not “the man.” If Genesis had said that “the man” should be “united to his wife,” meaning Adam, that would mean that only Adam and Eve should be married. Clearly the meaning is that all men and women who are not celibate should be united in marriage. So Jesus did not refer to Adam or Eve in connection with marriage.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
Genesis 1:27 NIV

For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be
united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
Genesis 2:24 NIV

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator `made them male and female’, [Gen. 1:27]
and said, `For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? [Gen. 2:24]
So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”
Matthew 19:4-6 NIV

Michie · Mar 25, 2025

Dale said:
You are correct that I should have said “except for the genealogy in Luke.” My point is that Jesus did not mention Adam and Eve, or the Garden of Eden, in His teaching.

Your quote on “the man” and “the woman” is a bit off. Genesis says that “a man” will leave his parents, not “the man,” which would be Adam. Jesus also said “a man,” not “the man.” If Genesis had said that “the man” should be “united to his wife,” meaning Adam, that would mean that only Adam and Eve should be married. Clearly the meaning is that all men and women who are not celibate should be united in marriage. So Jesus did not refer to Adam or Eve in connection with marriage.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
Genesis 1:27 NIV

For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be
united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
Genesis 2:24 NIV

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator `made them male and female’, [Gen. 1:27]
and said, `For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? [Gen. 2:24]
So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”
Matthew 19:4-6 NIV

No I’m not off. Adam and Eve play a large role in our salvation history. So we’ll have to agree to disagree.

BobRyan · Mar 25, 2025

Dale said:
I hear Christians talking about Adam and Eve.
What did Jesus say about Adam and Eve?
“Adam” is not mentioned in the Gospels.
“Eve” is not mentioned in the Gospels.
The “Garden of Eden” is not mentioned in the Gospels.

Doesn’t this suggest that the Adam and Eve story is less important than many Christians think it is?

They are all mentioned in Genesis and Jesus claims "The Word of God" is in the form "Moses said" in Mark 7:7-13.

Jesus quotes from Gen 2 - the marriage of Adam and Eve.

Gen 19:24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

Matt 19: 4 And He answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh.

Then the entire 7 day creation week - inserted into the 10 Commandments.

See Ex 20:11

stevevw · Mar 26, 2025

Dale said:
I hear Christians talking about Adam and Eve.
What did Jesus say about Adam and Eve?
“Adam” is not mentioned in the Gospels.
“Eve” is not mentioned in the Gospels.
The “Garden of Eden” is not mentioned in the Gospels.

Doesn’t this suggest that the Adam and Eve story is less important than many Christians think it is?

Well technically Jesus sis. He taught the diciples including Paul. Paul learn from the disciplesand the Holy Spirit. He says that himself.

He refers back to Genesis and Adam and Eve.
1 Timothy 2: 11-15
11A womanb must learn in quietness and full submissiveness. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man;c she is to remain quiet. 13For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. 14And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman who was deceived and fell into transgression. 15Women, however, will be savedd through childbearing, if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.

Jesus also refers back to Genesis and the creation of man and women.

Matthew 19:4–5
4 He answered, t“Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, u‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and vthe two shall become one flesh’?

davetaff · Mar 27, 2025

Hi what Jesus did say he was the last Adam so if he was the last there must have been a first

Love and Peace
Dave

Dale · Mar 27, 2025

Michie said:
No I’m not off. Adam and Eve play a large role in our salvation history. So we’ll have to agree to disagree.

In Acts, Deacon Stephen, or St. Stephen, is dragged before the Sanhedrin, accused of blasphemy. Stephen explains how Judaism led to the Jesus movement, going back to Abraham. Stephen’s speech is given in Acts Chapter 7. In Stephen’s speech:

“Abraham” appears 7 times.
“Isaac” appears 3 times.
“Jacob” appears 7 times.
“Joseph” appears 6 times.
“Moses” appears 13 times. Mt. Sinai is mentioned twice.
David and Solomon are mentioned.
There is no mention of Adam, Eve, the Garden of Eden, or Noah.
Maybe Adam and Eve are not as important as many Christians think.

Michie · Mar 27, 2025

Dale said:
In Acts, Deacon Stephen, or St. Stephen, is dragged before the Sanhedrin, accused of blasphemy. Stephen explains how Judaism led to the Jesus movement, going back to Abraham. Stephen’s speech is given in Acts Chapter 7. In Stephen’s speech:

“Abraham” appears 7 times.
“Isaac” appears 3 times.
“Jacob” appears 7 times.
“Joseph” appears 6 times.
“Moses” appears 13 times. Mt. Sinai is mentioned twice.
David and Solomon are mentioned.
There is no mention of Adam, Eve, the Garden of Eden, or Noah.
Maybe Adam and Eve are not as important as many Christians think.

How many times someone is mentioned in Scripture is not important. Scripture begins with the original Adam and Eve which is a running theme throughout Scripture and fallen humanity. It ends with a new Adam and Eve.

So I disagree. Not going to debate it for entertainment. I made up my mind. It’s your issue to grapple with. May the Lord help you discern. God bless!

David Lamb · Mar 28, 2025

Dale said:
In Acts, Deacon Stephen, or St. Stephen, is dragged before the Sanhedrin, accused of blasphemy. Stephen explains how Judaism led to the Jesus movement, going back to Abraham. Stephen’s speech is given in Acts Chapter 7. In Stephen’s speech:

“Abraham” appears 7 times.
“Isaac” appears 3 times.
“Jacob” appears 7 times.
“Joseph” appears 6 times.
“Moses” appears 13 times. Mt. Sinai is mentioned twice.
David and Solomon are mentioned.
There is no mention of Adam, Eve, the Garden of Eden, or Noah.
Maybe Adam and Eve are not as important as many Christians think.

But what was the context of Stephen's preaching? To whom was he preaching? He was addressing his fellow Jews, descendants of Abraham. So it is fitting that he should mention Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and others of their ancestors to show how the Lord Jesus Christ fitted with them.

davetaff · Mar 28, 2025

Hi
So why did God have to flood the world if it was only Adam he wanted to destroy was the first Adam the same as the last Adam a great multitude was he created in the same way as the last Adam Jesus Christ who is the head of a great body of believers was the first Adam the same thats why God had to flood the world to destroy Adams body.

Love and Peace
Dave

Dale · Mar 28, 2025

stevevw said:
Well technically Jesus sis. He taught the diciples including Paul. Paul learn from the disciplesand the Holy Spirit. He says that himself.

He refers back to Genesis and Adam and Eve.
1 Timothy 2: 11-15
11A womanb must learn in quietness and full submissiveness. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man;c she is to remain quiet. 13For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. 14And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman who was deceived and fell into transgression. 15Women, however, will be savedd through childbearing, if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.

Jesus also refers back to Genesis and the creation of man and women.

Matthew 19:4–5
4 He answered, t“Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, u‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and vthe two shall become one flesh’?

Steve, you seem to assume that Paul saying something is the same as Jesus saying it. I don’t see how this is so. Throughout the Gospels, the understanding of the disciples falls short.

On Matthew 19:4-5, I’m not sure why you bother to quote a verse that I already quoted in post #4. I never denied that Jesus referred to Genesis. I pointed out that he never mentioned Adam, Eve or the Garden of Eden.

There are two distinct creation stories in the first chapters of Genesis. We could call them the Six Days of Creation and the Garden of Eden.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. Genesis 1:27 NIV

In the first creation story, God creates an indeterminate number of men and women. This establishes God as the creator of the world, of all living things, and of humans. There is no mention of Adam and Eve. In Matthew 19, Jesus quotes the statement in Genesis 1:27 that God created men and women, then jumps to the moral of the story in the second creation story. The moral of the story in Genesis 2:24 upholds the necessity and sanctity of marriage. Jesus skips over Adam and Eve, and I can only assume that He did this deliberately.

Dale · Mar 28, 2025

stevevw said:
Well technically Jesus sis. He taught the diciples including Paul. Paul learn from the disciplesand the Holy Spirit. He says that himself.

He refers back to Genesis and Adam and Eve.
1 Timothy 2: 11-15
11A womanb must learn in quietness and full submissiveness. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man;c she is to remain quiet. 13For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. 14And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman who was deceived and fell into transgression. 15Women, however, will be savedd through childbearing, if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.

Jesus also refers back to Genesis and the creation of man and women.

Matthew 19:4–5
4 He answered, t“Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, u‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and vthe two shall become one flesh’?

I notice that you quote I Timothy 2:11-15, leaving us with a rather negative view of women. Not one of the parables of Jesus puts women in a negative light. Jesus never says that women must bear children.

Some of the Gospel stories put women in a very positive light. The story of the woman who poured perfume on the head of Jesus is told in Matthew 26:6-13 and in Mark 14:3-9. It is told in a different form in Luke 7:37-38 and 7:47-50. The woman is not weak in this story. It is the woman who leads and the disciples who are show to catch on. Jesus certainly doesn’t tell this woman that she must bear children to be useful.

stevevw · Mar 28, 2025

Dale said:
I notice that you quote I Timothy 2:11-15, leaving us with a rather negative view of women. Not one of the parables of Jesus puts women in a negative light. Jesus never says that women must bear children.

Some of the Gospel stories put women in a very positive light. The story of the woman who poured perfume on the head of Jesus is told in Matthew 26:6-13 and in Mark 14:3-9. It is told in a different form in Luke 7:37-38 and 7:47-50. The woman is not weak in this story. It is the woman who leads and the disciples who are show to catch on. Jesus certainly doesn’t tell this woman that she must bear children to be useful.

Sorry I did not intend to cast women in a negative light. I was more interested in the specific verse where Paul refers to Adam and Eve as a text in the New Testiment mentioning Adam and Eve. But the verse on its own had no context and I did not want to link it without context.

But it seems that even these 2 verses need context. Anyway it was not about anything to do with the meaning of the verse but rather only that it mentions Adam and Eve.

As a side note I don't think the verse or section Paul is mentioning paints women in a negative light anyway. We know that we all have the same worth and dignity being made in Gods image. I don't think Paul would be demeaning women by those words. Its something beyond our understanding and more to do with Gods way. Which is always good intentioned.

stevevw · Mar 28, 2025

This is to Dale. For some reason your post did not link. This was for your post number 14.

Ok so I may have misunderstood your point.

I used Pauls reference to Adam and Eve because it is used as a reference to his teachings for the church. Paul qualifies these teachings as from Christ in the form of the Holy Spirit.

1 Timothy 2
5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave Himself as a ransom for all—the testimony that was given at just the right time.

7For this reason I was appointed as a preacher, an apostle, and a faithful and true teacher of the Gentiles. I am telling the truth; I am not lying about anything.

Then Paul goes into the teachings for the church. I assume that by declaring he is telling the truth and is teaching that when he refers back to Adam and Eve as a basis for the teaching that this is a teaching from Christ through the Holy Spirit and not Pauls personal view.

Especially considering his other teachings and how important they are for individuals and the church. He is more or less the main teacher after Penticost that teaches the church along with Peter.

I don't necessarily think Adam and Eve themselves were especially important.

But there is a relationship, a disposition and order that is within Gods way that represents Adam and Eve or man and women that I think Paul is referencing. Something that is behind the teachings and about Gods law and order. His way of doing things to ensure stability and order so that the gospel can be preached without chaos. Not just for man and women but for nature and reality itself.

I think Jesus refers to this as well in regards to marriage. That only a man and women as created can become one flesh. This is Gods order and when it is defied there is disorder. As with adultery ot other forms of marriage.

Dale · Mar 28, 2025

Michie said:
How many times someone is mentioned in Scripture is not important. Scripture begins with the original Adam and Eve which is a running theme throughout Scripture and fallen humanity. It ends with a new Adam and Eve.

So I disagree. Not going to debate it for entertainment. I made up my mind. It’s your issue to grapple with. May the Lord help you discern. God bless!

Michie,
Who is the new Eve? Or the second Eve? I see no need for a second Eve.

David Lamb · Mar 29, 2025

Dale said:
Michie,
Who is the new Eve? Or the second Eve? I see no need for a second Eve.

Agreed. The bible mentions a Last Adam (referring to Jesus Christ) but nothing about a second Eve.

davetaff · Mar 29, 2025

Hi
I think Christs Eve is those chosen the 12 apostles may also include those chosen in the OT the 12 apostles most definitely through these the gospel has been preached to the world and children have been born to God only women can have children and the church is female

Love and Peace
Dave

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