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Trump to nominate RFK Jr. as Health and Human Services secretary

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As a senior citizen, I was advised to get a whooping cough (pertussis) vaccine because the thought-to-be-eradicated disease had resurfaced due to parents not vaccinating their children.
Haven't gotten it yet. I got the new COVID vaccine and a flu shot. Will probably get RSV and pertussis soon.
I have no doubt that when I get my annual checkup next year they'll tell me there are more "eradicated" diseases that have resurfaced due to parental neglect.
 
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What happens when all of a sudden a million people are unemployed?
They provide less of a drain on the taxpayer. We start paying down the debt. The value of the dollar increases. Its' buying power increases. They get productive jobs, as business flourishes.

I'm so glad that we will have businessmen like Trump, Musk, Bessent, Ramaswamy running our country.
 
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They provide less of a drain on the taxpayer. We start paying down the debt. The value of the dollar increases. Its' buying power increases. They get productive jobs, as business flourishes.

I'm so glad that we will have businessmen like Trump, Musk, Bessent, Ramaswamy running our country.
The experience of Great Britain and other countries who tried austerity was that when spending went down, tax revenue plunged--all those unemployed and failed businesses.

Their deficit increased.

But why look at facts when guesswork is so much more inspiring to that 1/2 percentage mandate (?) SMH.
 
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PREDICTION
In 4 years, the incidences of polio, mumps, measles and probably malaria will increase by 50% in the US. Hundreds of school districts will no longer require that children be vaccinated to attend. Parents will be more free!
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OBVIOUSLY
Hundreds (if not thousands) of career health professionals will be fired. By any measure accepted by the WHO, the health of US citizens will decline.
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BUT LET'S BE CLEAR
Elections have consequences. Trump has every right to appoint Kennedy to head HHS and to appoint those who will lead the deportation effort.
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AS AN ASIDE
This appointment is nowhere near as dangerous as having someone with no intelligence experience being the one to assess intelligence data and make recommendations to the President. This assessment has ZERO to do with politics. There are literally thousands of intelligence professionals who could perform the job in a somewhat adequate manner.

But hey! His voters are likely to be the ones refusing vaccines and getting sick. It could even cut into his tiny .4% bare majority (50.2%.)

Trump may act in haste and repent at leisure...retired at Mar a Lago...as those who listen to RFK may endanger their lives.

To all of you: you can be Republican and still stay hogwash to RFK Jr's advice. Please consider it.
 
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They provide less of a drain on the taxpayer. We start paying down the debt. The value of the dollar increases. Its' buying power increases. They get productive jobs, as business flourishes.

I'm so glad that we will have businessmen like Trump, Musk, Bessent, Ramaswamy running our country.
It takes a special kind of analysis to believe that increase the employment rate by a million will help the economy and the taxpayer.

Basically, you are saying that a severe recession would be good for the economy and the taxpayer.
 
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The experience of Great Britain and other countries who tried austerity was that when spending went down, tax revenue plunged--all those unemployed and failed businesses.

Their deficit increased.
Did you miss the part of Trump's plan to bring industry back to America, you know, real jobs that actually produce something that the rest of the world is interested in purchasing?


Oh, and let's not forget "drill baby drill."


Energy runs this world. Hyperinflated fiat currency takes more energy to create than it yields when burning it for heat.

The Keynesian ponzi scheme is coming to an end. The house of cards is near collapse. The BRICS nations are working on a currency backed by tangible assets. They are dumping the dollar. China has been selling off its' US bonds. They don't want to sell them off too quickly; because their economy is largely dependent on US purchases. They are working hard to expand trad with more and more nations.

When those bonds come home; inflation rises. The only thing propping the dollar up right now is that other nations, whose currency is approaching hyperinflation, are buying into America for a false sense of financial security.

We are generating a trillion dollars of added debt every quarter right now, and the tax revenue that the Feds are collecting doesn't pay down any of the debt. In fact it doesn't even fully cover the interest on the debt.

The crash is inevitable; and it would be wise to get our industry up and running while we still have time.

The rest of the world doesn't want to pay for our Government's employees anymore; and lost faith in our monopoly when we weaponized it.

It's time to get back to work building something that the rest of the world is willing to pay for.
 
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It takes a special kind of analysis to believe that increase the employment rate by a million will help the economy and the taxpayer.
I'm not special. This is basic economics.
 
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It's surprising to me that some social conservatives are praising the idea of a pro-choicer being in charge of Health and Human Services.
I thought that desiring safe food and safe medicine was pro life.
 
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They provide less of a drain on the taxpayer. We start paying down the debt. The value of the dollar increases. Its' buying power increases. They get productive jobs, as business flourishes.

I'm so glad that we will have businessmen like Trump, Musk, Bessent, Ramaswamy running our country.
Bessent hasn't been nominated yet. He is not favored by those who want to cripple the country with high tariffs across the board. Of course, he favors high tariffs against China (and probably Iran). He does favor serious federal actions to reduce government spending.
 
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Did you miss the part of Trump's plan to bring industry back to America, you know, real jobs that actually produce something that the rest of the world is interested in purchasing?


Oh, and let's not forget "drill baby drill."


Energy runs this world. Hyperinflated fiat currency takes more energy to create than it yields when burning it for heat.

The Keynesian ponzi scheme is coming to an end. The house of cards is near collapse. The BRICS nations are working on a currency backed by tangible assets. They are dumping the dollar. China has been selling off its' US bonds. They don't want to sell them off too quickly; because their economy is largely dependent on US purchases. They are working hard to expand trad with more and more nations.

When those bonds come home; inflation rises. The only thing propping the dollar up right now is that other nations, whose currency is approaching hyperinflation, are buying into America for a false sense of financial security.

We are generating a trillion dollars of added debt every quarter right now, and the tax revenue that the Feds are collecting doesn't pay down any of the debt. In fact it doesn't even fully cover the interest on the debt.

The crash is inevitable; and it would be wise to get our industry up and running while we still have time.

The rest of the world doesn't want to pay for our Government's employees anymore; and lost faith in our monopoly when we weaponized it.

It's time to get back to work building something that the rest of the world is willing to pay for.
The CEO of Steve Madden said he was moving factories out of China...to Vietnam and Central America.
China's tariff will be much higher than other countries.
Never even considered the US.
 
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I'm not special. This is basic economics.
Bissent and Musk understand that increasing unemployment by a million is NOT a good idea. BTW, I'm sure you understand that Musk and Ramaswamy have no power to fire anyone. They can only make recommendations to Congress or to those with the power to fire. Musk is in this for the power. He wants China tariffs very, very badly. This will help his companies greatly. He also want to continue to be the top man in the world with regard to space. This requires his continued almost monopoly on feral contracts.
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My teachers, including a member of the Fed, laugh along with me.
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But we have gotten to the point where one can say and support almost anything, almost any policy.
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Trump won the election and his every right to cause greatly increased inflation and a recession by having massive government firing in his first 6 months, massive across the board tariffs, and by deporting millions of our workers at a time when we need workers. [no, the fired folks for the FBI, DOJ, FDA, CDC and the military will not be taking the jobs being vacated by the deportees]
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I am NOT saying that the end result in a year will be a failure in the eyes of Wall Street. Ultimately, the economy will indeed flourish as long as Trump finds a way to INCREASE immigration among the technical workers that we need to tale those more productive jobs. But make no mistake, the majority will suffer mightily for a couple of years at least. I suppose the good news is that Trump will convince them (as Biden couldn't) that everything is better.

Sure, Trump will promote more production of oil and gas (and coal probably), but that doesn't mean that there will great increases beyond where we are now: the world's leader in energy production. In the end, the market will determine the price of oil. Trump can indeed reduce that price. But that method is by ending the conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East.
 
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The CEO of Steve Madden said he was moving factories out of China...to Vietnam and Central America.
China's tariff will be much higher than other countries.
Never even considered the US.
I do believe that severe tariffs on China will indeed bring jobs to the US, primarily auto, energy and tech jobs. Musk is cheering, his companies will thrive. Of course, we will need to promote legal immigration of tech workers.

The production of low-priced products will, as you say, simply move to other countries with low wage rates and minimal regulation.
 
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Did you miss the part of Trump's plan to bring industry back to America, you know, real jobs that actually produce something that the rest of the world is interested in purchasing?
What do you think Trump's plan is to bring industry back to America?
 
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What do you think Trump's plan is to bring industry back to America?
I suspect that he'll offer incentives to repatriate funds from overseas, offer incentives to build more cars in America, thru tariffs (Americans spend most of their money on 1, homes 2. cars) ; and that he might promote rebuilding our chip industry here at home, by offering tax incentives. These are just a few ideas on how we can get Americans working real jobs again, not stocking shelves during the graveyard shift at Walmart.
 
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Sure, Trump will promote more production of oil and gas (and coal probably), but that doesn't mean that there will great increases beyond where we are now: the world's leader in energy production. In the end, the market will determine the price of oil. Trump can indeed reduce that price. But that method is by ending the conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East.
I thought that our biggest export was bombs; but I haven't looked at the numbers. Nevertheless we don't get much of a return on them after they devastate villages of women and children. It might be profitable to diversify from selling off our natural resources, and delivering products to other nations other than death and destruction.
 
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This article gives an informative overview of what we can expect from RFK Jr along with his promises about transparency of information for Americans. He promises to NOT take away vaccines.

 
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