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Hello everyone, I am Litho.

I am in my mid 40's and still don't understand Christianity. It is not for a lack of trying. I studied the Bible so much that I can recite large parts word for word from memory, but still the spirit escapes me.

I grew up in a Christian cult, then did apologetics for years when I left, then became atheist for some more years, and now I'm back. But the truth and spirit still escapes me and this leaves me restless.

I have simplified my life in an attempt to draw close to God. I live alone, unmarried and no kids. I don't need to work, so I have plenty of time for faith, but I fail to find God. I don't even know what finding Him would look like.

I hope joining this forum will help me find my way, since in isolation I have fallen down rabbit holes and travelled down wayward roads in my thoughts. Hopefully my psyche is not damaged beyond repair.

I wish my eyes can see, and that my ears can hear the spirit of God, but I am lost, and everything seems meaningless without Him.

See you around!
Litho
 

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Hello everyone, I am Litho.

I am in my mid 40's and still don't understand Christianity. It is not for a lack of trying. I studied the Bible so much that I can recite large parts word for word from memory, but still the spirit escapes me.

I grew up in a Christian cult, then did apologetics for years when I left, then became atheist for some more years, and now I'm back. But the truth and spirit still escapes me and this leaves me restless.

I have simplified my life in an attempt to draw close to God. I live alone, unmarried and no kids. I don't need to work, so I have plenty of time for faith, but I fail to find God. I don't even know what finding Him would look like.

I hope joining this forum will help me find my way, since in isolation I have fallen down rabbit holes and travelled down wayward roads in my thoughts. Hopefully my psyche is not damaged beyond repair.

I wish my eyes can see, and that my ears can hear the spirit of God, but I am lost, and everything seems meaningless without Him.

See you around!
Litho

Hello, Litho! Everyone needs encouragement to continue heading toward Christ. Welcome to CF!
 
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Hello everyone, I am Litho.

I am in my mid 40's and still don't understand Christianity. It is not for a lack of trying. I studied the Bible so much that I can recite large parts word for word from memory, but still the spirit escapes me.

I grew up in a Christian cult, then did apologetics for years when I left, then became atheist for some more years, and now I'm back. But the truth and spirit still escapes me and this leaves me restless.

I have simplified my life in an attempt to draw close to God. I live alone, unmarried and no kids. I don't need to work, so I have plenty of time for faith, but I fail to find God. I don't even know what finding Him would look like.

I hope joining this forum will help me find my way, since in isolation I have fallen down rabbit holes and travelled down wayward roads in my thoughts. Hopefully my psyche is not damaged beyond repair.

I wish my eyes can see, and that my ears can hear the spirit of God, but I am lost, and everything seems meaningless without Him.

See you around!
Litho
If you want to understand Christianity, here it is in nut-shell.
Love like you want to be loved !

As you have lots of free time, how about starting to volunteer at a food bank or hospital or orphanage ?
Spread the love you have received for God .

Welcome to the site.
 
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If you want to understand Christianity, here it is in nut-shell.
Love like you want to be loved !

As you have lots of free time, how about starting to volunteer at a food bank or hospital or orphanage ?
Spread the love you have received for God .

Welcome to the site.
Thanks, that's good advice.

I already volunteer, and it is rewarding for sure.

The main problem for my faith and love is self interest, and it is a difficult challenge. Self interest seems to corrupt love, even when it appears wholesome from outside it can be hollow, conditional and self serving, and I'm trying to avoid that.
 
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Hello everyone, I am Litho.

I am in my mid 40's and still don't understand Christianity. It is not for a lack of trying. I studied the Bible so much that I can recite large parts word for word from memory, but still the spirit escapes me.

I grew up in a Christian cult, then did apologetics for years when I left, then became atheist for some more years, and now I'm back. But the truth and spirit still escapes me and this leaves me restless.

I have simplified my life in an attempt to draw close to God. I live alone, unmarried and no kids. I don't need to work, so I have plenty of time for faith, but I fail to find God. I don't even know what finding Him would look like.

I hope joining this forum will help me find my way, since in isolation I have fallen down rabbit holes and travelled down wayward roads in my thoughts. Hopefully my psyche is not damaged beyond repair.

I wish my eyes can see, and that my ears can hear the spirit of God, but I am lost, and everything seems meaningless without Him.

See you around!
Litho
Welcome to the forums, and welcome back to Christianity. This forum has plenty of folks that can help you in your Christian faith journey. We may all have slightly different doctrines, but all of the Christians here including myself believe in the Gospel.
 
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Hello everyone, I am Litho.

I am in my mid 40's and still don't understand Christianity. It is not for a lack of trying. I studied the Bible so much that I can recite large parts word for word from memory, but still the spirit escapes me.

I grew up in a Christian cult, then did apologetics for years when I left, then became atheist for some more years, and now I'm back. But the truth and spirit still escapes me and this leaves me restless.

I have simplified my life in an attempt to draw close to God. I live alone, unmarried and no kids. I don't need to work, so I have plenty of time for faith, but I fail to find God. I don't even know what finding Him would look like.

I hope joining this forum will help me find my way, since in isolation I have fallen down rabbit holes and travelled down wayward roads in my thoughts. Hopefully my psyche is not damaged beyond repair.

I wish my eyes can see, and that my ears can hear the spirit of God, but I am lost, and everything seems meaningless without Him.

See you around!
Litho
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Well since you came from a cult. You may have to do as Jesus stated
Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”

Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”


So you may have to weed out all the incorrect teaching you received in the cult. Then fill your mind with the correct teaching that focuses on Jesus.

To start you off, becoming a permanent born again child of God a person must believe in Jesus.

What is believing in Jesus, it is believing Jesus is who He says He is, which is The Son of God/The promised Messiah, the resurrection and the life.

What it is not, is just believing Jesus lived or exist or believing Jesus died on the cross. A person must believe in the person Jesus for Eternal Life.

When the person believes in Jesus they immediately cross over from death to life and become a permanent born again child of God
 
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Hello everyone, I am Litho.

I am in my mid 40's and still don't understand Christianity. It is not for a lack of trying. I studied the Bible so much that I can recite large parts word for word from memory, but still the spirit escapes me.

I grew up in a Christian cult, then did apologetics for years when I left, then became atheist for some more years, and now I'm back. But the truth and spirit still escapes me and this leaves me restless.

I have simplified my life in an attempt to draw close to God. I live alone, unmarried and no kids. I don't need to work, so I have plenty of time for faith, but I fail to find God. I don't even know what finding Him would look like.

I hope joining this forum will help me find my way, since in isolation I have fallen down rabbit holes and travelled down wayward roads in my thoughts. Hopefully my psyche is not damaged beyond repair.

I wish my eyes can see, and that my ears can hear the spirit of God, but I am lost, and everything seems meaningless without Him.

See you around!
Litho
Welcome!
 
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Thanks, that's good advice.

I already volunteer, and it is rewarding for sure.

The main problem for my faith and love is self interest, and it is a difficult challenge. Self interest seems to corrupt love, even when it appears wholesome from outside it can be hollow, conditional and self serving, and I'm trying to avoid that.
Isn't loving God, Jesus, and others, self-serving ?
Doing good for others always makes the self feel good.
If your self-serving is hurting others, quit it !
If it is the result of helping others, ramp it up !
 
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Hello everyone, I am Litho.

I am in my mid 40's and still don't understand Christianity. It is not for a lack of trying. I studied the Bible so much that I can recite large parts word for word from memory, but still the spirit escapes me.

I grew up in a Christian cult, then did apologetics for years when I left, then became atheist for some more years, and now I'm back. But the truth and spirit still escapes me and this leaves me restless.

I have simplified my life in an attempt to draw close to God. I live alone, unmarried and no kids. I don't need to work, so I have plenty of time for faith, but I fail to find God. I don't even know what finding Him would look like.

I hope joining this forum will help me find my way, since in isolation I have fallen down rabbit holes and travelled down wayward roads in my thoughts. Hopefully my psyche is not damaged beyond repair.

I wish my eyes can see, and that my ears can hear the spirit of God, but I am lost, and everything seems meaningless without Him.

See you around!
Litho
God bless you and welcome to CF! I hope you find it helpful and edifying. :wave:
 
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Continue reading His Word, daily. Walk with Him, live in a posture of prayer. Take notes while watching sermons from a good pastor (Dr. Charles Stanley is a favorite of mine).

Since you say the Spirit escapes you, understand it's important to accept Jesus not only as your Savior, but also as the Lord of your life. Seek to obey Him, make Him the final say in your life. You'll often fail at this-we all do, for we cannot live a holy life on our own power. As long as you're genuinely trying to follow Him you will please Him and He will send His Spirit to empower and enable you to live a more righteous life.

God Bless you!
 
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Continue reading His Word, daily. Walk with Him, live in a posture of prayer. Take notes while watching sermons from a good pastor (Dr. Charles Stanley is a favorite of mine).

Since you say the Spirit escapes you, understand it's important to accept Jesus not only as your Savior, but also as the Lord of your life. Seek to obey Him, make Him the final say in your life. You'll often fail at this-we all do, for we cannot live a holy life on our own power. As long as you're genuinely trying to follow Him you will please Him and He will send His Spirit to empower and enable you to live a more righteous life.

God Bless you!
I think I have a lot of guilt for things I did while away from faith. I wrote extensively about the reasons why I thought God does not exist and about the lack of evidence for His existence. If it wasn't for a series of inexplicably specific dreams that gave me confidence in the Bible again, I would still be lost. But I feel I may have gone too far, and now heaven is closed.

I pray every day for God to please make me clean, to give me work to do so my life can have meaning, but every day I get lost in worldly things again. I just feel like a failiure.

It's like a dark night of the soul.
 
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Heaven is only closed to you if you die in your sins, without repenting. If you believe in Christ and accept Him as your Savior then nothing you've done is unforgivable.

You can't go by how you "feel". Nowhere in the Bible does it say to trust your feelings. Rather, trust in His Word, His Promises and the Cross.
 
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I wish my eyes can see, and that my ears can hear the spirit of God, but I am lost, and everything seems meaningless without Him.
Welcome, beloved of the Lord. It seems to me that you do have eyes to see and ears to hear because of what you yourself said. Here is what you said: “everything seems meaningless without Him.” It’s evident that Jesus is calling you and drawing you to Himself. Just keep on studying. Study your heavenly Father’s promises to you. Every promise that He has made He will faithfully keep. He loves you; get to know Him. Jesus did it all; just rest in Him.

"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. "For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."

- Matthew 11:28-30 (NKJV)


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Welcome, beloved of the Lord. It seems to me that you do have eyes to see and ears to hear because of what you yourself said. Here is what you said: “everything seems meaningless without Him.” It’s evident that Jesus is calling you and drawing you to Himself. Just keep on studying. Study your heavenly Father’s promises to you. Every promise that He has made He will faithfully keep. He loves you; get to know Him. Jesus did it all; just rest in Him.

"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. "For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."

- Matthew 11:28-30 (NKJV)


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Amen, Selah!

Litho, here is more confirmation for ya, identifying Who is drawing you, and insight into the challenge Jesus lays before us all...

John 6:25-71 NIV

Jesus the Bread of Life​

25 When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, “Rabbi, when did you get here?”

26 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”

28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

30 So they asked him, “What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? 31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’[c]”

32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

34 “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”

“Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”

35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

41 At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” 42 They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’?”

43 “Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus answered. 44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’[d] Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me. 46 No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. 47 Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”

52 Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.” 59 He said this while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum.

Many Disciples Desert Jesus​

60 On hearing it, many of his disciples said, “This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?”

61 Aware that his disciples were grumbling about this, Jesus said to them, “Does this offend you? 62 Then what if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before! 63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit[e] and life. 64 Yet there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him. 65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”

66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.

67 “You do not want to leave too, do you?” Jesus asked the Twelve.

68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.”

70 Then Jesus replied, “Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!” 71 (He meant Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, who, though one of the Twelve, was later to betray him.)"

God bless!

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I just want to thank everyone for their kind words and support, I wish I could explain how much it means to me.

I have come to realise that despite myself, God has never forgotten me like I do Him. What a wonderful undeserved kindness. My flesh complains daily about the road I'm on, but my spirit struggles on. It feels like God's word cuts me to my core, dividing my light and dark. I pray God does not leave me to my own will of comforts and pleasures which come easy, but that he always draws my spirit upward, even though it's a difficult thing for 'me'.

I wanted to spend time today in prayer, and not asking for things like usual, but to present a lowly poem or word of thanks, but once again I was caught in the current of media and entertainment. Now It's time to go to bed and I feel guilty about getting lost in myself again.

It makes me depressed, but I have hope and faith in my Lord, that he will make me better, and that one day I will not be so much ashamed.
 
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I have come to realise that despite myself, God has never forgotten me like I do Him. What a wonderful undeserved kindness. My flesh complains daily about the road I'm on, but my spirit struggles on. It feels like God's word cuts me to my core, dividing my light and dark. I pray God does not leave me to my own will of comforts and pleasures which come easy, but that he always draws my spirit upward, even though it's a difficult thing for 'me'.


I wanted to spend time today in prayer, and not asking for things like usual, but to present a lowly poem or word of thanks, but once again I was caught in the current of media and entertainment. Now It's time to go to bed and I feel guilty about getting lost in myself again.

It makes me depressed, but I have hope and faith in my Lord, that he will make me better, and that one day I will not be so much ashamed.
You’re doing fine! :oldthumbsup: … just tell Jesus you love Him every time you think of Him.:love2:

We love Him because He first loved us.

- 1 John 4:19 (NKJV)


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I just want to thank everyone for their kind words and support, I wish I could explain how much it means to me.
There's your word of thanks you desire to express further down.

Kindness comes directly from Him, so you are indirectly thanking Him, blessing us in the process.
I have come to realise that despite myself, God has never forgotten me like I do Him.
Isaiah 45:4

"For the sake of Jacob my servant, of Israel my chosen, I summon you by name and bestow on you a title of honor, though you do not acknowledge me."

Maybe our time in the wilderness seems unprofitable from our point of view, but I'm convinced that God doesn't waste a single day of our lives - even before we acknowledge Him and when we occasionally fail to do so throughout our lives. Hey, we're His children, we stumble, He picks us back up until we've grown enough to walk steady.

I predict that one day He'll turn you around to review that period, and you'll be stunned at what He was accomplishing without your knowledge. And at that moment you'll realize that He is really capable of keeping yet another promise:

Joel 2:25-26 NIV

"I will repay you for the years the locusts have eaten—
the great locust and the young locust,
the other locusts and the locust swarm --
my great army that I sent among you. You will have plenty to eat, until you are full,
and you will praise the name of the Lord your God,
who has worked wonders for you;
never again will my people be shamed."

One way He restores those years - is to use them to minister to those still in the wilderness behind us.

And check out His promise about shame. Hmmm...?

What a wonderful undeserved kindness. My flesh complains daily about the road I'm on, but my spirit struggles on. It feels like God's word cuts me to my core, dividing my light and dark. I pray God does not leave me to my own will of comforts and pleasures which come easy, but that he always draws my spirit upward, even though it's a difficult thing for 'me'.
All this attainable when you follow what you say is difficult but not impossible - dying to self. Allowing Him to thusly live through us is what conquers our will.

Our highest aspiration in life should be to be empty vessels. A discipline not so hard to achieve with practice.
I wanted to spend time today in prayer, and not asking for things like usual, but to present a lowly poem or word of thanks, but once again I was caught in the current of media and entertainment. Now It's time to go to bed and I feel guilty about getting lost in myself again.
When you wake up and thank Him for another day, ask Him to write that lowly poem through you. Upon re-reading one day, you will recognize how profound the wisdom is contained therein, validated by Scripture you may have not even known yet when you wrote it. What joy it is to recognize the Spirit's voice speaking to our spirits!

It makes me depressed, but I have hope and faith in my Lord, that he will make me better, and that one day I will not be so much ashamed.

How about today?

What did Jesus feel about our shame that He bore for us? Did it threaten His confidence in His own identity? Did the weight of that shame prevent the joy set before Him that He kept His focus on?

Hebrews 12:1-3 NIV

"Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith."

"For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Consider him who endured such opposition from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart."

We pick up our crosses and follow Him, so why shouldn't we, through the power of His grace, mercy, and compassion - likewise despise the shame along with Him?

Carrying shame is not possible when one walks in sensitivity to the conviction of the Holy Spirit. We hear Him, we agree and ask for forgiveness and help in doing better next time, we walk on without breaking confidence that our consciences are clear.

His mercies are new every morning. That conviction is like Jesus washing our feet to keep us clean daily. The rest of our body is already clean by His Word.

Oh, Litho, what a beautiful response!

You may not realize it, but I perceive that God is building a potent testimony in you and establishing a ministry that will bring you much joy! Struggles are common to all of us, but humility in the midst of them reveals the heart of Christ to others. You're gonna beat whatever God identifies as idols in His time, I predict, which God will turn to empathy for those with similiar challenges.

What gives me that confidence for you? I'm a man delivered from 17 years of isolation. Your b/w world is about to blossom into full color my friend, because God's built the courage in you to keep walking despite shaky legs, ha!

Already you've struck a serious blow to the enemy, in that you have this desire to please God:

Micah 6:8 NIV

"He has shown you, O mortal, what is good.
And what does the Lord require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy
and to walk humbly with your God."

Focus on this desire, and the breaking of strongholds will be an automatic result of a strengthened reliance on His Spirit.

This is my prayer for you, that God will do for you, if not already, what He has done for me - once fully emerged from the wilderness.

Psalm 90:17 NIV

"May the favor of the Lord our God rest on us;
establish the work of our hands for us—
yes, establish the work of our hands."

And when you are going great guns in the joy of the work you were created for, that He will again turn you around and show you how He has used all you've been through to prepare you for such a day as this!

And hey, how about sharing that lowly poem with us too after applying His finishing touch?

God bless!
 
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You’re doing fine! :oldthumbsup: … just tell Jesus you love Him every time you think of Him.:love2:

We love Him because He first loved us.

- 1 John 4:19 (NKJV)


:loveletter:Selah
Ok now, how did you say in a few words what I was trying to say in a mountain of them?
 
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