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Actually they severely underestimate it. God hears their prayers and answers. God takes care of them and is coming to rescue them and take over the world one day and allow them to help rule here forever. He came down Himself to die a horrible death for us. Their destiny here is total rule and control and there will be no one else on the planet BUT believers.
Also nations rise and fall according to how they treat Him and us. Period.
Huh. Interesting personal take cloaked as a religious one, but ok.
 
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I've just watched the Opening Ceremony on BBC iPlayer, and fast forwarded a lot of it. I didn't like the beheaded Marie Antoinette - I thought it was sick. I found much of it weird and didn't like the drag stuff. However I could see no connection to anything Biblical and no comparison between the rather unpleasant fashion show on the bridge and the Last Supper (either the real event or the Da Vinci painting). The commentators referred to it as a fashion show, there were far more than 13 people there and they were seated on both sides of the catwalk (not a table). When the guy in blue turned up he was supposed to represent Dionysus. Also the horse and rider, coming down the Seine, was referenced to something in the first century BC, so a 100+ years before Revelation.

I'm a Christian and would have been extremely upset at any disrespect to the Lord or His Word, but I just didn't see it. What I saw was a lot of unusual things, some of which were not compatible with Christianity and most of which I disliked. The only things I liked was the quality of the singing of the more classical songs, and I thought it was a nice idea to put a bit of the Eiffel Tower in the medals.

It was a worldly event, by the world, and although I love international events and think it's good to bring countries together in peaceful ways I find the opening ceremonies getting too extreme, but I couldn't see a specific attack on Christianity. God was left out of it, which in itself makes it Lifeless, but then it wasn't a Christian event.
 
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On the matter of the pursuit of happiness:

Another possible source for the phrase is in the Commentaries on the Laws of England published by Sir William Blackstone, from 1765 to 1769, which are often cited in the laws of the United States.

Blackstone argues that God 'has so intimately connected, so inseparably interwoven the laws of eternal justice with the happiness of each individual, that the latter cannot be attained but by observing the former; and, if the former be punctually obeyed, it cannot but induce the latter. In consequence of which mutual connection of justice and human felicity, he has not perplexed the law of nature with a multitude of abstracted rules and precepts, referring merely to the fitness or unfitness of things, as some have vainly surmised; but has graciously reduced the rule of obedience to this one paternal precept, “that man should pursue his own true and substantial happiness.” This is the foundation of what we call ethics, or natural law . . .

I don't think the path to 'true and substantial happiness' of humans means treading the stony road of denying one's nature. But that is not a matter for anybody but yourself.
Old 1700s stuff
 
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One video on youtube said that the leader of France (Macron) congratulated the guy for a job well done. It would not be the Satanist oriented folks going to jail. In the end of the world era we are told that all the world worships Satan and the leader of that day. THAT is where the world is headed.
Yep. Macron, Putin, Trump, Biden, Xi and other extremists are all driven by Satan. Almost every world leader bows down to the prince of the air in 2024.
 
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Considering it’s a worldwide event, it’s doubt they will miss a few hardline Christians in the US.
A few hardline Christians in the U.S.? Baloney! There were Christian sectors and leaders of nations around the world which didn't appreciate it. And you might be surprised to know that even Non Christians many,, many of them thought it was inappropriate.
I don’t care if they come home with a medal. If they went, if they almost went, good for them.
On that I can agree with you.
 
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A few hardline Christians in the U.S.? Baloney! There were Christian sectors and leaders of nations around the world which didn't appreciate it.
Not any significant or important number of them.
And you might be surprised to know that even Non Christians many,, many of them thought it was inappropriate.
There wasn’t really, though.
 
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John 3:16, dude
I love that verse. And yes, if these folks believe in Jesus, yes, they will be saved. We should pray that these performers believe in Christ, and ideally grow closer to God. :)
 
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I thought you were giving up demonizing people.
True, but after hearing what Trump and Macron has been doing, it seems like there is some spiritual warfare going on, as both folks seem to not be operating under normal circumstances. But, I am not sure, cos I am not a theologian. If it is not spiritual warfare, then Trump might have NPD (narcissistic personality disorder), while Macron might just be following the trends of the 2020s. Xi and Putin might be sociopaths.

But hey, God told us to pray for our leaders, so I pray that these leaders can overcome their struggles whether these may be purely spiritual, purely mental or a mixture of the two.

1 Timothy 2:1-4 (NIV): "I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth."

Trump may or may not have NPD:
 
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You know I honestly don't think we Christians should be offended by this. I think this was an I tended slap in the face of Christians, however, the one they really slapped was Christ not me.

I'm not the one they will answer to. I'm not the one who can save them or condemn them. They are already condemned. Here's the thing. Jesus died for them too. He would forgive them with no questions asked. His words echo across time. "Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing."

They are lost people. Their lives show it. They are the thief on the cross who mocked Jesus. Who did not recognize him for who he is and mocked him to his death.

I understand that I am not the one who has a right to be offended for I am not the one who can save them.
 
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You know I honestly don't think we Christians should be offended by this. I think this was an I tended slap in the face of Christians, however, the one they really slapped was Christ not me.

I'm not the one they will answer to. I'm not the one who can save them or condemn them. They are already condemned. Here's the thing. Jesus died for them too. He would forgive them with no questions asked. His words echo across time. "Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing."

They are lost people. Their lives show it. They are the thief on the cross who mocked Jesus. Who did not recognize him for who he is and mocked him to his death.

I understand that I am not the one who has a right to be offended for I am not the one who can save them.
Amen, brother. All we can do is pray for these people, and pray that these folks repent of their sins and turn to Christ.
 
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@Whyayeman , it might take months, or years for me to become less judgemental of others, so I will ask my fellow Christians here to pray for me. As a guy closer to the center, it seems like both the conservatives and liberals are veering off into oblivion, but there is nothing we can do about it, besides boycotting the far-right and the far-left. I thought that calling stuff "demonic" would help, but it only makes things worse. Maybe in two years, I might be a changed man, one who is softer spoken, and slow to judge, cos the brain is fully developed at 26 or 30. I might have to go to confession again this Saturday (well, after confessing my sins to Jesus at home), when the weather calls for it. The preacher can give some life-pro-tips for me.
 
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Yep. Macron, Putin, Trump, Biden, Xi and other extremists are all driven by Satan. Almost every world leader bows down to the prince of the air in 2024.
I think Trump's wife is Christian. I think he also makes some sort of claim to be a believer as well.
 
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I think Trump's wife is Christian. I think he also makes some sort of claim to be a believer as well.
Donald (along with Elon Musk) remind me of the wicked man from Psalm 10:2-7, while the far-left remind me of 2 Timothy 3:1-5. Both are unpleasant, and not holy.

Psalm 10:2-7 (NIV): In his arrogance the wicked man hunts down the weak, who are caught in the schemes he devises. He boasts about the cravings of his heart; he blesses the greedy and reviles the Lord. In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God. His ways are always prosperous; your laws are rejected by him; he sneers at all his enemies. He says to himself, “Nothing will ever shake me.” He swears, “No one will ever do me harm.” His mouth is full of lies and threats; trouble and evil are under his tongue.

2 Timothy 3:1-5 (NIV): "But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people."
 
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Donald (along with Elon Musk) remind me of the wicked man from Psalm 10:2-7, while the far-left remind me of 2 Timothy 3:1-5. Both are unpleasant, and not holy.

Psalm 10:2-7 (NIV): In his arrogance the wicked man hunts down the weak, who are caught in the schemes he devises. He boasts about the cravings of his heart; he blesses the greedy and reviles the Lord. In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God. His ways are always prosperous; your laws are rejected by him; he sneers at all his enemies. He says to himself, “Nothing will ever shake me.” He swears, “No one will ever do me harm.” His mouth is full of lies and threats; trouble and evil are under his tongue.

2 Timothy 3:1-5 (NIV): "But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people."
I don't recall Trump 'reviling the Lord'? I do recall the Biden regime being child sacrifice advocates and demonic perverts that push demented things.
 
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I don't recall Trump 'reviling the Lord'? I do recall the Biden regime being child sacrifice advocates and demonic perverts that push demented things.
For myself, as a centrist, I have seen both parties revile the Lord over the past few years. Seems like Biden and Trump are not good picks for our country.

Trump had a golden statue made of him (reminds me of the Golden calf or idolatry as stated in Exodus 32 or Exodus 20:3-5)
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While Biden mocked the Catholic faith by making the sign of the cross at an abortion rally:
 
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I don't recall Trump 'reviling the Lord'? I do recall the Biden regime being child sacrifice advocates and demonic perverts that push demented things.
I'm glad I'm not Trumps judge. Because I would say many of his actions are not godly or pleasing to the Lord in the least. He's done many things that are blatantly sinful and unrighteous and continues to do so. Whether he is truly saved is not up to me. But I can sure recognize his sinful actions. Just like people can recognize mine or yours.

I just know he is no savior of America. I believe most of his policies.if enacted will be good for America and us. Some may not be. But he's a dead sight better than Harris.
 
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