Kamala Harris supported defunding the police in 2020

Merrill · Jul 26, 2024

Before this gets memory-holed, and Democrats start engaging in revisionist history. And this is from CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/kfile-kamala-harris-praised-defund-the-police-movement-in-june-2020/index.html

iluvatar5150 · Jul 26, 2024

Merrill said:
Before this gets memory-holed, and Democrats start engaging in revisionist history. And this is from CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/kfile-kamala-harris-praised-defund-the-police-movement-in-june-2020/index.html

There's nothing wrong with what she's quoted as saying in that article. Re-evaluating spending to see if it matches priorities is a good thing. Heck, one could even argue that it's a conservative thing, since it's in service of optimizing efficiency.

"Defund the Police" had a number of different meaning, or was "semantically overloaded" as one poster here likes to put it. Some just meant cutting police budgets willy nilly. Other, more intelligent, uses of it meant re-evaluating budgets and policies to see if some of the tasks and situations currently assigned to police would be better addressed by other agencies staffed by people with other skillsets. That latter approach is (or at least appears to be from the article) what Harris is describing.

Merrill · Jul 26, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
There's nothing wrong with what she's quoted as saying in that article. Re-evaluating spending to see if it matches priorities is a good thing. Heck, one could even argue that it's a conservative thing, since it's in service of optimizing efficiency.

"Defund the Police" had a number of different meaning, or was "semantically overloaded" as one poster here likes to put it. Some just meant cutting police budgets willy nilly. Other, more intelligent, uses of it meant re-evaluating budgets and policies to see if some of the tasks and situations currently assigned to police would be better addressed by other agencies staffed by people with other skillsets. That latter approach is (or at least appears to be from the article) what Harris is describing.

I don't disagree with everything she said --I do worry about militarized police departments with giant budgets

but she did cheer on the cutting of police budgets, and she pandered to the "defund the police" crowd

the is going to be an election issue, and believe me, Trump is going to remind everyone of this if they have a debate

eleos1954 · Jul 26, 2024

Merrill said:
I don't disagree with everything she said --I do worry about militarized police departments with giant budgets

but she did cheer on the cutting of police budgets, and she pandered to the "defund the police" crowd

the is going to be an election issue, and believe me, Trump is going to remind everyone of this if they have a debate

There's a lot of policies within this administration that has had effect on America's "norms" ... have they been positive or negative. A few being ...

Defunding the police?
Mass migration?
Wars?

Simple question ... was our country more stable under the Trump administration (of which the 3 listed was not going on) of the Biden administration .... of which Harris of course supported 100%

The democratic party are for these things .... and I don't see anything positive coming out of it.

RileyG · Jul 26, 2024

No surprises here.

RileyG · Jul 26, 2024

eleos1954 said:
There's a lot of policies within this administration that has had effect on America's "norms" ... have they been positive or negative. A few being ...

Defunding the police?
Mass migration?
Wars?

Simple question ... was our country more stable under the Trump administration (of which the 3 listed was not going on) of the Biden administration .... of which Harris of course supported 100%

The democratic party are for these things .... and I don't see anything positive coming out of it.

I agree completely, which is why it is so crucial I’m going to vote to keep Harris out of the White House.

Merrill · Jul 26, 2024

and she wants to abolish the filibuster in order to push through the "Green New Deal"

will sign a slavery reparations bill

and supported Biden's plan to prosecute SCOTUS justices, impose term limits on them, and even pack the court

woman is completely nuts

Pommer · Jul 26, 2024

Merrill said:
and she wants to abolish the filibuster in order to push through the "Green New Deal"

and this is “bad”?

Merrill said:
will sign a slavery reparations bill

my solution, no taxes of any kind will be paid by descendants of slaves for 200 years, I haven’t heard of her “plan” (if it exists)

Merrill said:
and supported Biden's plan to prosecute SCOTUS justices, impose term limits on them, and even pack the court

Whatever happened to these plans?

Merrill said:
woman is completely nuts

If she agreed with you politically would she be “sane”?

iluvatar5150 · Jul 26, 2024

Merrill said:
and she wants to abolish the filibuster in order to push through the "Green New Deal"

It's nuts to want to abolish a procedural rule that developed by accident, was mostly used at first to block civil rights advancements, and has stymied everything that can't make it through the budget reconciliation workaround? When was the last time the filibuster worked as advertised by encouraging bipartisanship?

durangodawood · Jul 26, 2024

Meh. Shes been a tough on crime DA and AG generally - to the point that its been a liability for her with the extreme left.

Bradskii · Jul 26, 2024

Merrill said:
and she wants to abolish the filibuster in order to push through the "Green New Deal"

will sign a slavery reparations bill

and supported Biden's plan to prosecute SCOTUS justices, impose term limits on them, and even pack the court

woman is completely nuts

Don't forget the links! C'mon, do some homework. Tell us where you get your talking points so we can see the context and have an adult conversation.

Bradskii · Jul 26, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
It's nuts to want to abolish a procedural rule that developed by accident, was mostly used at first to block civil rights advancements, and has stymied everything that can't make it through the budget reconciliation workaround? When was the last time the filibuster worked as advertised by encouraging bipartisanship?

'I've got this great idea. To stop legislation going through, you get the floor and hold it by reading through all of Doctor Seuss, War and Peace, and the lyrics of all the Eagles songs'.

'Brilliant. No-one could possible think that it's a remarkably stupid, undemocratic, lunatic suggestion. Let's do it!'

Tropical Wilds · Jul 26, 2024

Merrill said:
and she wants to abolish the filibuster in order to push through the "Green New Deal"

will sign a slavery reparations bill

and supported Biden's plan to prosecute SCOTUS justices, impose term limits on them, and even pack the court

woman is completely nuts

The things people attribute to her without any shred of evidence is nuts.

RileyG · Jul 26, 2024

Merrill said:
and she wants to abolish the filibuster in order to push through the "Green New Deal"

will sign a slavery reparations bill

and supported Biden's plan to prosecute SCOTUS justices, impose term limits on them, and even pack the court

woman is completely nuts

No one alive owned slaves. People are not entitled to special privileges just because of the abuse of their ancestors. Period.

They’re dead.

BPPLEE · Jul 26, 2024

Tropical Wilds said:
The things people attribute to her without any shred of evidence is nuts.

She said she would abolish the filibuster to pass the green new deal. And I have heard her speak about free mental health care and free health care for stress related illnesses as a form of reparations. These are things that she herself has said.

iluvatar5150 · Jul 26, 2024

BPPLEE said:
She said she would abolish the filibuster to pass the green new deal.

How did she say that she would accomplish this? Because AFAIK, the filibuster is a senate rule, not a law, and can only be rescinded by the senate itself.

BPPLEE · Jul 26, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
How did she say that she would accomplish this? Because AFAIK, the filibuster is a senate rule, not a law, and can only be rescinded by the senate itself.

I’ve heard the sound bite a dozen times today. She was a senator wasn’t she?

iluvatar5150 · Jul 26, 2024

BPPLEE said:
I’ve heard the sound bite a dozen times today. She was a senator wasn’t she?

Four years ago. Is that the concern - that she would’ve done something differently at her last job if she’d had the chance?

BPPLEE · Jul 26, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
Four years ago. Is that the concern - that she would’ve done something differently at her last job if she’d had the chance?

It’s one of the many radical things she’s advocated

iluvatar5150 · Jul 26, 2024

BPPLEE said:
It’s one of the many radical things she’s advocated

How is that radical? The practice only gained frequent use in the 20th century and the rules governing its employment have been changed several times.

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