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Im afraid of death.

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First off I'd like to mention, I'm not afraid of hell or a horrifying afterlife. If I had ever went to hell I know that I would deserve to be there and that I would get the just punishment that I deserve. I'm not worried about that, I have solid confidence that I will enter glory when my final second on this world is up and God finally calls me home. I am afraid of the process. I like Sproul was for a while am afraid of the process of death. How will I die? Will I suffer? Will I die alone or will I have my wife by my side?

Two years ago I thought my final moments were up when I needed emergency surgery or the massive blood clot in my heart would go to my brain and would very likely kill me pretty instantly. I had almost tasted death and I have to tell you, I was terrified the entire time until they put me under. I was terrified when they told me that on top of having blood clots literally everywhere else there also was one in my heart. I was terrified on the ambulence ride from New York to New Jersey because New Jersey was the closest hospital I could go to that could do the surgery and had room to take me. I was terrified during the two day long wait before my surgery. I was terrified that the clot would go to my brain before they got to operate on me. I was terrified all the way and I was especially terrified when I was in the Surgery room and they were prepping me for surgery. I've told this story countless times on here because it's a great story so I won't bore you with the details. Just basically need to know that, I survived and God saved my life. (Duh or I wouldn't be talking to you today lol)


I have known nothing but suffering in my life so, i guess i should not be surprised that I will probably suffer when my final moments are up. This just terrifies me. I don't know what God has planned for me i can only take my life one day at a time. But I'm at the point in my life where I am just terrified of the entire process.

I want to be like Sproul was on his deathbed. He knew he was going to die and he knew that he would meet Jesus and according to what I've heard, he wasn't afraid anymore of death. I want to be like that. I want my last words to be meaningful like his were and give my wife some closure because odds are, I don't have much more time left in this world. I don't take care of myself, I weigh over 400 pounds, and I'm definitely at high risk of getting deadly blood clots again and I don't think God would save my life every single time. From the very moment I was born into this world God has saved my life. I was born blue (not breathing) for several minutes. Back in the 80s they didn't have the technology they do today to save a baby not breathing. They thought i wouldn't survive but they luckily got me breathing again. I suffered brain damage but, I'm alive (again, duh or I wouldn't be talking lol).

When I was about two years old I swallowed a penny and nearly suffocated to death. Had my sister not screamed and my mom not known what to do to get the penny out of my windpipe I wouldn't be talking to you today. God has saved my life probably countless times and more times than even I remember. But eventually my luck is going to run out a and it will be time. Probably sometime sooner than I expect.

I don't want my wife to miss me. I mean, she obviously is going to be sad if she was ever at my deathbed. But I want her to be encouraged that, I'm going to a fantastic and wonderful place. And one day, we will see each other again. I don't want to be afraid anymore and I don't want to have to be on my actual deathbed to actually stop being afraid. I know it's completely normal to be afraid of death but, I don't want to be afraid of it. Odds are I'm going to suffer and odds are I'm going to spend the entire time thanking God even until my last words on this earth.


Dunno what I'm trying to ask. Just, how do I get over this I guess? I don't want to be normal I want to be fearless and face my death like every other devoted child of God. Without fear and being glad that the suffering is finally going to stop. Dunno... probably just being a baby.
 

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First off I'd like to mention, I'm not afraid of hell or a horrifying afterlife. If I had ever went to hell I know that I would deserve to be there and that I would get the just punishment that I deserve. I'm not worried about that, I have solid confidence that I will enter glory when my final second on this world is up and God finally calls me home. I am afraid of the process. I like Sproul was for a while am afraid of the process of death. How will I die? Will I suffer? Will I die alone or will I have my wife by my side?

Two years ago I thought my final moments were up when I needed emergency surgery or the massive blood clot in my heart would go to my brain and would very likely kill me pretty instantly. I had almost tasted death and I have to tell you, I was terrified the entire time until they put me under. I was terrified when they told me that on top of having blood clots literally everywhere else there also was one in my heart. I was terrified on the ambulence ride from New York to New Jersey because New Jersey was the closest hospital I could go to that could do the surgery and had room to take me. I was terrified during the two day long wait before my surgery. I was terrified that the clot would go to my brain before they got to operate on me. I was terrified all the way and I was especially terrified when I was in the Surgery room and they were prepping me for surgery. I've told this story countless times on here because it's a great story so I won't bore you with the details. Just basically need to know that, I survived and God saved my life. (Duh or I wouldn't be talking to you today lol)


I have known nothing but suffering in my life so, i guess i should not be surprised that I will probably suffer when my final moments are up. This just terrifies me. I don't know what God has planned for me i can only take my life one day at a time. But I'm at the point in my life where I am just terrified of the entire process.

I want to be like Sproul was on his deathbed. He knew he was going to die and he knew that he would meet Jesus and according to what I've heard, he wasn't afraid anymore of death. I want to be like that. I want my last words to be meaningful like his were and give my wife some closure because odds are, I don't have much more time left in this world. I don't take care of myself, I weigh over 400 pounds, and I'm definitely at high risk of getting deadly blood clots again and I don't think God would save my life every single time. From the very moment I was born into this world God has saved my life. I was born blue (not breathing) for several minutes. Back in the 80s they didn't have the technology they do today to save a baby not breathing. They thought i wouldn't survive but they luckily got me breathing again. I suffered brain damage but, I'm alive (again, duh or I wouldn't be talking lol).

When I was about two years old I swallowed a penny and nearly suffocated to death. Had my sister not screamed and my mom not known what to do to get the penny out of my windpipe I wouldn't be talking to you today. God has saved my life probably countless times and more times than even I remember. But eventually my luck is going to run out a and it will be time. Probably sometime sooner than I expect.

I don't want my wife to miss me. I mean, she obviously is going to be sad if she was ever at my deathbed. But I want her to be encouraged that, I'm going to a fantastic and wonderful place. And one day, we will see each other again. I don't want to be afraid anymore and I don't want to have to be on my actual deathbed to actually stop being afraid. I know it's completely normal to be afraid of death but, I don't want to be afraid of it. Odds are I'm going to suffer and odds are I'm going to spend the entire time thanking God even until my last words on this earth.


Dunno what I'm trying to ask. Just, how do I get over this I guess? I don't want to be normal I want to be fearless and face my death like every other devoted child of God. Without fear and being glad that the suffering is finally going to stop. Dunno... probably just being a baby.
Don't be scared bro. God has a plan, and a short period of pain will be met afterwards with the joy of heaven above. But hey, almost everyone has thought of this deep question at least once. For folks with kids, people would ask this: "If I die at a young age, how will my kids take care of themselves?", but for folks without kids, the question would be this: "If I die young, why do I regret not doing enough to turn others to Christ?", while another question would be: "Did I make a difference on people, and showed them the way to Christ?", or "it seems too early to go".

There are plenty of ways people pass. Maybe it is that one dude in that lifted Ford pickup truck with monster truck sized tires who always cuts you off when on the highway, and this time you did not have enough time to brake (I don't drive, but every day I go to work, there are at least two or three folks who cut my taxi off). Same thing on road trips with my parents. Other ways of death include old age, cancer, victim of violence or purposely choosing to do risky stuff, such as driving a rental car fast on the German highway on a rainy day and losing control, overdosing on drugs, falling from great heights or self harm.

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In other words, do not worry about how you are going to pass away, cos the temporary pain of passing leads to everlasting life with God as a Christian. Also, who is this Mr. Sproul guy? I live under a rock.

Edit (2023-12-09 at 7:17 PM): Final thoughts here for you, is that you seek a Christian psychologist, if possible, and discuss the topic of the fear of dying also with your wife. Quick natural deaths are always the best (pro-life Christian guy in his 20s here, assisted deaths are an abomination and against my ethics), or accidental ones also that were not your fault, but if a slower death happens, God will guide you safely through it, and maybe some painkillers could help, as long as you take the proper dosage as recommended by doctors. But hey, this is in the future. Focus on getting support from a psychologist or pastor/priest.
 
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No one knows when their last day on earth will be. You are wise to live your life one day at a time. Of course, as Christians, we don't actually die. We are eternal. When I was younger, I almost died as well but the weird thing was that the adrenaline and fear came after I was out of danger and realized what had almost happened.

You might try looking for near death experience videos.

Here's one that I found interesting although I do keep a skeptical perspective when watching them.
 
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So, you could have died already but didn't. This can show that God is in control of when you die and how.

I would say share with your wife. Talk about what she is feeling and what she thinks and feels about death.

When you went unconscious, that could be like when we die; but when we die, we go unconscious to this life and discover how we wake up to our next life.

How we are in our character has a lot to do with how we will become after we die. So, I would say prepare to die well . . . including being mature in love which does not fear and is creative to use things of life and death for loving.

Fear is a very dirty trick to keep our attention elsewhere. So, trust God to change you into how His love is.
 
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I like Sproul was for a while am afraid of the process of death. How will I die? Will I suffer? Will I die alone or will I have my wife by my side?
So, what does Sproul say helped him?

For me, personally, I have all along been told not to be afraid to die because if I die I can go to Heaven which is so better. I was told this in Catholic classes as a kid.

And now I am with Jesus and God's word. And not only am I not to fear death, but we are clearly told not to allow any fear, at all, I would say, going by 1 John 4:18 >

"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love." (1 John 4:18)

And Jesus says that when we see end-time major disasters,
"See that you are not troubled," Jesus says in Matthew 24:6.

Plus, Jesus wants to share His own peace with us, instead >

"'Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.'" (John 14:27)

So, this is not just some philosophical and theoretical thing. But Jesus wants to share with us in His own peace which is His peace, therefore the peace which Jesus Himself enjoys and experiences, in His love. This is personal, with Jesus Himself in us.

But human love is weak so we can get into fearing about only certain people and ourselves. So it is practical, then, to be corrected in our character so we are strong in Jesus with His immunity almighty against the cruelty and deception of fear and worry.

"Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might." (Ephesians 6:10)

Jesus is our way > here is more >

"Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage." (Hebrews 2:14-15)

So, it is very clear, here, how
"fear of death" is slavery to Satan. This, then, is not only some philosophical intellectual idea thing. Jesus Christ is the Lord of all, and He has gone through death on the cross, partly in order to defeat Satan and the power of "fear of death", and Jesus is the One who can deliver us from such treachery and cruelty of Satan's slavery to fear.

But - - - we want to stay here, on this earth, however God pleases. Because here we can reach and help others, like Paul shows with his own example >

"For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. Nevertheless to remain in the flesh is more needful for you." (Philippians 1:23-24)

So, Paul's reason for staying in this life was not because he was afraid to die, but he had his love reason to stay here . . . so he could help people, ministering to us.
 
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No one knows when their last day on earth will be. You are wise to live your life one day at a time. Of course, as Christians, we don't actually die. We are eternal. When I was younger, I almost died as well but the weird thing was that the adrenaline and fear came after I was out of danger and realized what had almost happened.

You might try looking for near death experience videos.

Here's one that I found interesting although I do keep a skeptical perspective when watching them.

Idk how accurate NDEs are. There are people who claim to have seen the Muslim version of Heaven ...etc. And the Christ centered ones are mostly all clearly fake because what they have witnessed doesn't align with what the Bible teaches about the afterlife.

Jesus's famous words of "those who believe in me will live even though they die." Always makes me tear up lol.
 
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And the Christ centered ones are mostly all clearly fake because what they have witnessed doesn't align with what the Bible teaches about the afterlife.
Ones I have heard about can say the person dies and sees his or her loved ones.

But Jesus says,


"if you love those who love you, what reward have you?" in Matthew 5:46.

So, I consider that in the presence of Jesus we mainly will be attentive to Jesus and we will be loving all our family in Jesus, and not only be concerned about certain favorite people we had in this life.

There are ones who now can so impress us and have us loving them so dearly, but they are not like Jesus the way we will be in Heaven. With Jesus we won't be like we are now. We won't be so impressed with how ones now might have been for us, I would say.

So, I would advise that we humble ourselves and our loved ones and special friends, and seek in prayer that we become more mature and conformed to Jesus.

And instead of being afraid of death, be busy with our attention to growing in Christ and helping each other be ready to die right, and minister for one another to become more maturely how Jesus is > if certain ones are such great people, we all still need to grow more so we are ready. Do not fear death, then, but do be busy with using the time we have, for ministry . . . and not only for trying to control how long we have on this earth.
 
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Again I turn to the life of Corrie ten Boom. As a child, when she discovered the concept of death, she ran to her father, terrified to know that one day she was going to die. Her father drew an analogy. When they travel by train, they need two tickets. When does he give her hers? Right before they get on. Until then, he carries it for her. It's the same way with God and death, her father said. Right now, her Father God is holding her ticket to death. When her time comes, God will give her the strength and courage she needs, right before she boards the train.

I hope that made sense, and that it helps.
 
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My very first thought was what JESUS says.
Mat 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

You cant worry about what will or will not happen. Live life as the best Christian you can be. Putting so much energy and time into fears does no one any good, want add one minute to your life. CHRIST new exactly how HE was going to die but went through it all without a whimper; preaching and saving till HIS very last breath. Worry about how you are going to die will just bring sorrow and stress. Just live like there is no tomorrow laying your legacy for glorification to GOD. Getting rewards in heaven instead on earth. When I go I just want everyone to say he was a good man and would do anything to help someone.
Storing up rewards in heaven when CHRIST will say well done good and faithful servant. I know that this life is just a blink of an eye compared to eternity. Any pain in this life want even be a memory once we pass for we will be in our spiritual bodies that only GOD can destroy with a consuming fire. I already know I most likely will have a painful death but I cant wait for my Ruach where there will be no more pain, sorrow or a flesh body that ages and gets sick. I want heaven to come but not before I fill my destiny GOD has in store for me, I don't want to disappoint HIM.
 
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Again I turn to the life of Corrie ten Boom. As a child, when she discovered the concept of death, she ran to her father, terrified to know that one day she was going to die. Her father drew an analogy. When they travel by train, they need two tickets. When does he give her hers? Right before they get on. Until then, he carries it for her. It's the same way with God and death, her father said. Right now, her Father God is holding her ticket to death. When her time comes, God will give her the strength and courage she needs, right before she boards the train.

I hope that made sense, and that it helps.
Corrie ten Boom had a lot of wisdom, and I have watched a documentary about her on New Years of 2023. The train ticket analogy by her father is good, though the documentary never touched on that, as the show focused on her forgiveness of others and her Christianity. Jesus holds the ticket to everlasting life for us, and we accept that ticket into our hearts, so that when we board the train, we may use said ticket. The process of boarding the train (cancer, accident, or old age) can be difficult, but just think of that as boarding a train on a stormy evening*.

But for the OP, death can be a heavy topic. I don't think about death, but our family's old dog died in January 2021, then the cat in April 2021, then my grandfather on Christmas 2021, so that was a heavy year. And crazy to think about, the end of 2021 was closer to 2080 compared to 1962 was to 2021. I will be 81 in late 2080, barring an accident, vehicle crash or natural disaster (impulsive guy here with ADHD, so luckily I don't drive), but will always maintain my faith in Jesus.

*Back to the train analogy, the station may be covered by trash and litter left over by dying cells in our body (such as cancer, memory loss, etc), and be located in the middle of a category 4 storm (dying at a young age from an accident or unhealthy habits), but God will make sure you get on the train to heaven, even though the station may be in a difficult area of your lives.
 
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Again I turn to the life of Corrie ten Boom. As a child, when she discovered the concept of death, she ran to her father, terrified to know that one day she was going to die. Her father drew an analogy. When they travel by train, they need two tickets. When does he give her hers? Right before they get on. Until then, he carries it for her. It's the same way with God and death, her father said. Right now, her Father God is holding her ticket to death. When her time comes, God will give her the strength and courage she needs, right before she boards the train.

I hope that made sense, and that it helps.

Thank you that helped. I did not hear that story of her life but I have heard all of her conversations that she did for TV in the 70s and 80s and also knew about her life in prison and how she hid the Jews before she got arrested. I knew that she hid the Jews in her bedroom and ive seen the house she grew up in (not physically but I saw it on TV)
 
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@Neostarwcc , is everything going better on this fear of passing into Heaven?


Remember, Heaven will be a good place, and the process of getting there is much less painful compared to what Jesus had to go through on the cross. We have it easy, brother.

Heaven Pt. 1 Devotional (three part installment, two parts finished)
 
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hey!

I'm feeling a little better from what I was a few months ago. I'm still a little afraid of the concept of death. It's not getting to heaven that's the scary part it's the unknown journey to the afterlife that is. The unknown journey from life to death is scary. After death I won't feel or know a thing because I will be on the other side you know? I will be with Jesus. Jesus said that those who believe in him will live even though they die. Their physical bodies will rot but their spiritual bodies will be with him but the journey to death is unknown. I hope I'm making sense. That frightens me a little bit but since I'm starting to take care of myself my death is hopefully several years away and I hope I can die like rc sproul or Joan of arc. That would he fantastic.
 
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Our own circumstances may affect the way we respond to our own mortality.

I'm not afraid of death for example because I'm leading a very difficult life full of pain and disappointments not by choice so the prospect of "resting in peace" overcomes all anxiety about the pain of death.

A few times, I experienced the classic symptoms of heart attack, painful, stabbing sensation and strong pressure in the chest, in the heart region while experiencing radiating pain in the neck and shoulder at the same time.

Since I'm looking forward to "resting in peace", my brain starting interpreting the pain as pleasure. I felt ecstacy, a good sensation of cold (like feeling a cold mountain breeze during a heat wave) and felt like I'm levitating off my feet. I thought I was going to fly into the air.

And when the pain in my chest went away, the amazing feeling of levitation and ecstacy also subsided and I was like "I want more!!"

Sometimes the pain (imagined or not) is only psychological and it may not be literally pain you're anxious about dying but perhaps the fear of leaving things behind. It can be your loved ones or the great life you have built up for yourself in this world, it can even be material wealth.

Some of Christ's disciples did not feel pain in death for they are probably very excited to see Jesus again far greater than anything they are leaving behind in this world.
 
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hey!

I'm feeling a little better from what I was a few months ago. I'm still a little afraid of the concept of death. It's not getting to heaven that's the scary part it's the unknown journey to the afterlife that is. The unknown journey from life to death is scary. After death I won't feel or know a thing because I will be on the other side you know? I will be with Jesus. Jesus said that those who believe in him will live even though they die. Their physical bodies will rot but their spiritual bodies will be with him but the journey to death is unknown. I hope I'm making sense. That frightens me a little bit but since I'm starting to take care of myself my death is hopefully several years away and I hope I can die like rc sproul or Joan of arc. That would he fantastic.
At least you are less afraid. You will be on the other side soon. Yes, the process can be scary, but with proper palliative care, it can be made less scary, with people at your side as you pass away naturally.
 
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Dunno what I'm trying to ask. Just, how do I get over this I guess? I don't want to be normal I want to be fearless and face my death like every other devoted child of God. Without fear and being glad that the suffering is finally going to stop. Dunno... probably just being a baby.
My dearest Brother in Jesus, this doesn't make you a bad Christian. It doesn't make you a bad person. You are simply honest. When the fingers of death come, most are not pleased.

I would like to share a discussion with you that I had with a close friend recently. We were discussing the original early invisible body in scripture.

One of the most powerful verses is actually an odd verse, on this subject. Now, set the mood, Christians literally lined the streets of Rome crucified on crosses, with their heads dipped in oil to make blasphemous human torches of their dead bodies. Christians were beheaded, sawn in two, drawn and quartered, hung, stoned, drug by horses, boiled in oil... about every human horror imaginable. So many forget that the NT epistles are literally written in Blood. The majority of believers in the early body either fled or were slaughtered. This sets an entirely new context to every word read within the epistles.

Now, with this in mind, here is 2 Timothy 2:16 But avoid irreverent, empty speech, for this will produce an even greater measure of godlessness. 17 And their word will spread like gangrene; Hymenaeus and Philetus are among them. 18 They have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and are overturning the faith of some.

I had to really study this one out! The leading context promises this; 2 Timothy 2:11 This saying is trustworthy: For if we have died with Him, we will also live with Him;
I believe that part of overthrowing the system of death involved dismantling the very fear of death. The total context of NT scripture is essentially that those in Jesus Christ are mere babies in the womb of this carnal world, awaiting to be born into eternity with Jesus. This teaching was so paramount that when apostates claimed that the first resurrection was over and done, it was associated with "gangrene" by Paul. The teaching of the Apostles is that death is only a doorway to Heaven for the Christian who does not "die", but merely transforms upon death into what God has always desired for us. These bodies are merely caterpillar shells and one day, the butter fly will be born into eternity. (Metaphorically speaking)

I am now praying in my soul for the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ to wash your very soul and flesh in the peace of never having to "die", but merely, one day, when it is finally time, step out of your mortal coil, clothed in the incorruptible and finally without the pain of the cold hearted system of death, step into Jesus Christ's Loving arms.

I will pray that instead of having fear, that God truly hears your desire and makes you a very beacon of hope to all around you, on this topic that eases people fears on this very significant topic.

All Love to you in the name of our Precious Lord Jesus Christ, who suffered unto death, that we wouldn't have to.

My brother, never let any man or angel take this Promise of Jesus away from you. You, through Christ the conqueror of death, have already conquered this very thing that you are bravely expressing fear over.


John 5:24 “I assure you: Anyone who hears My word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life and will not come under judgment but has passed from death to life.
 
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At least you are less afraid. You will be on the other side soon. Yes, the process can be scary, but with proper palliative care, it can be made less scary, with people at your side as you pass away naturally.

At least odds are unless some unfortunate accident happens I'd have my wife by my side. That would make things more comfortable. When my grandmother passed from cancer quite quickly (they literally found her cancer 2 weeks before she died when it was way too late to do anything but make her comfortable and wait) she was surrounded by loved ones and that made her pass into the next world a lot easier. She was a devout Catholic and definitely believed in Jesus so I'm only assuming she is with Jesus now I would hate to think of her being punished by God because she is scared of fire (she was in a really bad fire when she was little that permanently scarred her for the rest of her life). Anyway, to die like that would be more comforting you're right.

Men usually always die first so unlike my wife odds are I'm not going to die alone.
 
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At least odds are unless some unfortunate accident happens I'd have my wife by my side. That would make things more comfortable. When my grandmother passed from cancer quite quickly (they literally found her cancer 2 weeks before she died when it was way too late to do anything but make her comfortable and wait) she was surrounded by loved ones and that made her pass into the next world a lot easier. She was a devout Catholic and definitely believed in Jesus so I'm only assuming she is with Jesus now I would hate to think of her being punished by God because she is scared of fire (she was in a really bad fire when she was little that permanently scarred her for the rest of her life). Anyway, to die like that would be more comforting you're right.

Men usually always die first so unlike my wife odds are I'm not going to die alone.
Sometimes people may die alone, but remember, one is not truly alone as a Christian, cos we have Jesus to guide us into Heaven. It is good that your grandmother had people by her side. Catholics and Protestants are both Christians, so she would be in Heaven. And hey, most of us have had a traumatic experience, and I hope that nobody passed away in the fire that she had to go through as a kid.

So you are a Calvinist? How does that work? I know that he was alive around the same time as the Reformation in the 16th century. :) I am glad that the Reformation happened, cos the Catholics back then in the 1500s-1600s were very greedy and controlling of the governments. It took until the year 2000 for Catholics to apologize for the inquisition, which happened centuries prior. For myself, I was a nondenominational until 2022, but I like both the Protestant and Catholic churches equally, as both have strengths and weaknesses, and both follow Jesus (well, most of them, though some are being influenced by secular society, including Catholics).

Source: Vatican Looks Back At Inquisition

We can die anytime, such as in a car crash, plane accident, diseases, other accidents, disasters, or of natural causes. However, we should not go into risky circumstances on purpose. So, we must have a healthy fear of dying prematurely cos of 1 Corinthians 6:19-20. Paul had a lot of wise words, even though sometimes he is a little harsh, but God speaks via the Holy Spirit through Paul as a father would to his children.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 Devotional
 
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To break it down to simple physics, our souls, consciousness, emotions and our creative ideas, are all made up from celestial energy and reside in a quantum state. Our energy - just like the energy from a star, can NOT be destroyed. So, even if there is no God, you're here forever. The only thing that changes is our physical body. (Just like the body of the caterpillar dying so that the body of the butterfly can flourish.)

However, since most of us on here know that there IS a God, we're not just going to float aimlessly around in space. There is a plan, and it's far greater than what we're doing here.

I want to live a full life, and achieve my potential here. However, I am looking forward to working directly under God. It sounds like fantasy now, but it'll feel more real than anything we do here.

The method by which you go? I doubt it'll matter, not in the grand scheme of things. But when travelling, I rarely think back to the eighteen hours of crippling discomfort in a small chair with no legroom, I only ever think back to the freedom I experienced when I landed.
 
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Sometimes people may die alone, but remember, one is not truly alone as a Christian, cos we have Jesus to guide us into Heaven. It is good that your grandmother had people by her side. Catholics and Protestants are both Christians, so she would be in Heaven. And hey, most of us have had a traumatic experience, and I hope that nobody passed away in the fire that she had to go through as a kid.

So you are a Calvinist? How does that work? I know that he was alive around the same time as the Reformation in the 16th century. :) I am glad that the Reformation happened, cos the Catholics back then in the 1500s-1600s were very greedy and controlling of the governments. It took until the year 2000 for Catholics to apologize for the inquisition, which happened centuries prior. For myself, I was a nondenominational until 2022, but I like both the Protestant and Catholic churches equally, as both have strengths and weaknesses, and both follow Jesus (well, most of them, though some are being influenced by secular society, including Catholics).

Source: Vatican Looks Back At Inquisition

We can die anytime, such as in a car crash, plane accident, diseases, other accidents, disasters, or of natural causes. However, we should not go into risky circumstances on purpose. So, we must have a healthy fear of dying prematurely cos of 1 Corinthians 6:19-20. Paul had a lot of wise words, even though sometimes he is a little harsh, but God speaks via the Holy Spirit through Paul as a father would to his children.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 Devotional


She lost a younger or older sister (I can't remember) in the fire so it was extra traumatizing for her. For the longest time she didn't want to be cremated because of it but decided shortly before her death to be cremated along with my grandfather who was a Protestant although what denomination he was I'm not 100% sure. The fire happened in the 1930s so it was a long time ago. I don't know much about the fire I'm sorry because my grandmother often wouldn't talk about it and she lost most of her education because of it. Like for example she never learned how to read or drive or anything like that but she still was pretty smart and knew how to speak English very well. But she knew how to cook very well although not as good as my mom's mom I'd have to admit. But my other grandmother hasn't cooked in years she is almost 95 years old and is the only grandparent I have left.


Yes John Calvin was one of the Reformers. He lived shortly after Luther died and in my opinion was one of the greatest if not the greatest theologian who ever lived. His main work "Institutes of the Christian religion" is a classic if you have not read it I highly recommend you do it's a fantastic work that should be read by Christians across all denominations. It's not just a work for the reformed. Calvin really nails down the basics of the Christian religion and Christian Theology in the book. It truly is a fantastic read. It's available on audio book and for free online I think although im not 100% sure. I bought my copy via audio book on audible.

Since I'm a Presbyterian I also really adored R.C. Sproul who was a great theologian of our time. He passed away in 2017 but he wrote many, many fantastic books and gave many, many fantastic classes many of which are available for free online. If you're interested in learning about reformed theology I do recommend him as well because he really nails it down in an easy to understand manner. The man was just so kind and fantastic.


I also really adored the way in which he passed away as well and wish I go to my grave in the way that he did. Just truly brave and remarkable.
 
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