Putin ‘invokes Cuban Missile Crisis’ as he moves ‘nuclear-capable’ ships to Havana

Kokavkrystallos · Jun 7, 2024

Ukraine-Russia war – live: Putin ‘invokes Cuban Missile Crisis’ as he moves ‘nuclear-capable’ ships to Havana

Four Russian vessels will make a port call to Havana between 12 and 17 June before sailing to Venezuela

Vladimir Putin is invoking the memory of the Cuban Missile Crisis by moving “nuclear-capable” warships to Cuba in a move intended to provoke the United States, a think tank warned.

Four Russian vessels will make a port call to Havana between 12 and 17 June before stopping off in Venezuela later in the month, according to Cuban and US officials.

The Admiral Gorshkov frigate, the Kazan nuclear-powered cruise missile submarine, the Academic Pashin replenishment oiler, and the Nikolai Chiker rescue tug will all be part of the visit, the US-based think tank Institute for the Study of War.

The Admiral Gorshkov is capable of carrying Zircon hypersonic missiles, which the Kremlin has touted as being able to carry a nuclear warhead. There is no suggestion the ship will be equipped with nuclear weapons during the visit.

In 1962, former Russian premier Nikita Khrushchev moved nuclear missiles to Havana which led to an intense stand off between Moscow and Washington.

Meanwhile, Putin has threatened to retaliate against Western countries that are allowing Ukraine to hit Russia with their long-range missiles.

Putin ‘invokes Cuban Missile Crisis’ as he moves ‘nuclear-capable’ ships to Havana

Four Russian vessels will make a port call to Havana between 12 and 17 June before sailing to Venezuela

www.independent.co.uk

AlexB23 · Jun 7, 2024

Kokavkrystallos said:
Ukraine-Russia war – live: Putin ‘invokes Cuban Missile Crisis’ as he moves ‘nuclear-capable’ ships to Havana
Four Russian vessels will make a port call to Havana between 12 and 17 June before sailing to Venezuela

Vladimir Putin is invoking the memory of the Cuban Missile Crisis by moving “nuclear-capable” warships to Cuba in a move intended to provoke the United States, a think tank warned.

Four Russian vessels will make a port call to Havana between 12 and 17 June before stopping off in Venezuela later in the month, according to Cuban and US officials.

The Admiral Gorshkov frigate, the Kazan nuclear-powered cruise missile submarine, the Academic Pashin replenishment oiler, and the Nikolai Chiker rescue tug will all be part of the visit, the US-based think tank Institute for the Study of War.

The Admiral Gorshkov is capable of carrying Zircon hypersonic missiles, which the Kremlin has touted as being able to carry a nuclear warhead. There is no suggestion the ship will be equipped with nuclear weapons during the visit.

In 1962, former Russian premier Nikita Khrushchev moved nuclear missiles to Havana which led to an intense stand off between Moscow and Washington.

Meanwhile, Putin has threatened to retaliate against Western countries that are allowing Ukraine to hit Russia with their long-range missiles.

Putin ‘invokes Cuban Missile Crisis’ as he moves ‘nuclear-capable’ ships to Havana

Four Russian vessels will make a port call to Havana between 12 and 17 June before sailing to Venezuela

www.independent.co.uk

Man, I wish we as a world could use nuclear power to get us off of Middle Eastern fossil fuels (and reduce CO2 emissions), instead of threatening people with nuclear missiles and warheads.

Kokavkrystallos · Jun 7, 2024

AlexB23 said:
Man, I wish we as a world could use nuclear power to get us off of Middle Eastern fossil fuels (and reduce CO2 emissions), instead of threatening people with nuclear missiles and warheads.

As long as we don't have a Chernobyl. Also, where the US first nuclear power plant was there was sickness down at least 30 miles of the Deerfield River. One day I went tubing there and the guy up at the dam letting the water out said there was high radiation in the water. That was in 1993.
Some say nuke power isn't as clean as it claims, and there is always that coolant water that can get contaminated.

AlexB23 · Jun 7, 2024

Kokavkrystallos said:
As long as we don't have a Chernobyl. Also, where the US first nuclear power plant was there was sickness down at least 30 miles of the Deerfield River. One day I went tubing there and the guy up at the dam letting the water out said there was high radiation in the water. That was in 1993.
Some say nuke power isn't as clean as it claims, and there is always that coolant water that can get contaminated.

Yeah, but Chernobyl was due to negligence, same with the water issues in the US. But, I pray that we do not have a Chernobyl-style incident.

Petros2015 · Jun 8, 2024

AlexB23 said:
Yeah, but Chernobyl was due to negligence, same with the water issues in the US. But, I pray that we do not have a Chernobyl-style incident.

We really lucked out with Fukushima though; not really any negligence just natural geology.
If you watch the Netflix series "The Days" on how it went down and what happened, it's just nightmare after nightmare after nightmare
like the worst day at work ever trying to halt was was happening

And it never gets better... it just suddenly... stops.
And they don't know why; like they literally don't know why Japan is still inhabitable today, other than bona-fide miracle I guess,
because that's what it seems like. It shouldn't be. Human intervention was *NOT* working.

The more reactors, the more danger of incidents like that, they've either got to be super hardened to where they can survive something like earthquakes or artillery shells or else we might not be so lucky next time.

AlexB23 · Jun 8, 2024

Petros2015 said:
We really lucked out with Fukushima though; not really any negligence just natural geology.
If you watch the Netflix series "The Days" on how it went down and what happened, it's just nightmare after nightmare after nightmare
like the worst day at work ever trying to halt was was happening

And it never gets better... it just suddenly... stops.
And they don't know why; like they literally don't know why Japan is still inhabitable today, other than bona-fide miracle I guess,
because that's what it seems like. It shouldn't be. Human intervention was *NOT* working.

The more reactors, the more danger of incidents like that, they've either got to be super hardened to where they can survive something like earthquakes or artillery shells or else we might not be so lucky next time.

I have watched a National Geographic or some documentary about Fukushima in the early 2010s. We either need stronger reactors, or we need to stop building them in natural disaster prone areas.

Pommer · Jun 8, 2024

AlexB23 said:
I have watched a National Geographic or some documentary about Fukushima in the early 2010s. We either need stronger reactors, or we need to stop building them in natural disaster prone areas.

Given that the whole of Japan sits upon the Eastern edge of the “ring-of-fire” they’d have to go with “stronger”, but even so, an earthquake doesn’t care how strong it’s made.

AlexB23 · Jun 8, 2024

Pommer said:
Given that the whole of Japan sits upon the Eastern edge of the “ring-of-fire” they’d have to go with “stronger”, but even so, an earthquake doesn’t care how strong it’s made.

Agreed, that is true. Strength is important, but no one can truly 100% guarantee the strength of a building or reactor during a quake. Man, this quake was already 13 years ago. Man, am getting older here.

essentialsaltes · Jun 14, 2024

US nuclear-powered submarine arrives in Guantanamo Bay a day after Russian Navy docks in Havana

The USS Helena, a fast-attack nuclear submarine, surfaced in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, a day after Russian naval forces arrived in Havana to conduct drills with the island nation, a Russian ally.

In a statement posted on X, US Southern Command said, “The fast-attack submarine USS Helena is in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba as part of a routine port visit as it transits the U.S. Southern Command geographic area of responsibility while conducting its global maritime security and national defense mission.”

The specific movements of Navy submarines are highly classified and are rarely disclosed publicly.

[But this time, we'll make an exception.]

Desk trauma · Jun 14, 2024

Petros2015 said:
The more reactors, the more danger of incidents like that, they've either got to be super hardened to where they can survive something like earthquakes or artillery shells

You just described every commercial reactor in the US. They are all inside concrete containment buildings with 20+ foot thick walls with earthworks in place for 1,000 year weather events and parts of the buildings specifically hardened against rocket/artillery as unlikely as that is. After Fukushima modifications were mandated for all US reactors to avoid the failures that happen there from happening here (back up generators vulnerable to flooding, plants not being able to be shut down safety with power loss etc).

Petros2015 · Jun 14, 2024

Desk trauma said:
You just described every commercial reactor in the US.

I am genuinely glad to hear that.
Hopefully all countries follow suite.

We've come a long way, I guess...

AlexB23 · Jun 14, 2024

Petros2015 said:
I am genuinely glad to hear that.
Hopefully all countries follow suite.

We've come a long way, I guess...

Kyle Hill, the guy who made this video is my guy.

He is a good man who discusses nuclear power and stuff.

FireDragon76 · Jun 15, 2024

Petros2015 said:
We really lucked out with Fukushima though; not really any negligence just natural geology.
If you watch the Netflix series "The Days" on how it went down and what happened, it's just nightmare after nightmare after nightmare
like the worst day at work ever trying to halt was was happening

And it never gets better... it just suddenly... stops.
And they don't know why; like they literally don't know why Japan is still inhabitable today, other than bona-fide miracle I guess,
because that's what it seems like. It shouldn't be. Human intervention was *NOT* working.

The more reactors, the more danger of incidents like that, they've either got to be super hardened to where they can survive something like earthquakes or artillery shells or else we might not be so lucky next time.

Fukushima was in a bad location. The western side of Japan has fewer earthquakes and tsunamis.

I'll have to check out that series. I love Japanese stuff, and the Fukushima disaster, and its sociological and environmental impacts, is fascinating to study.

Putin ‘invokes Cuban Missile Crisis’ as he moves ‘nuclear-capable’ ships to Havana

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Ukraine-Russia war – live: Putin ‘invokes Cuban Missile Crisis’ as he moves ‘nuclear-capable’ ships to Havana​

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Ukraine-Russia war – live: Putin ‘invokes Cuban Missile Crisis’ as he moves ‘nuclear-capable’ ships to Havana​

Four Russian vessels will make a port call to Havana between 12 and 17 June before sailing to Venezuela​

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Vladimir Putin is invoking the memory of the Cuban Missile Crisis by moving “nuclear-capable” warships to Cuba in a move intended to provoke the United States, a think tank warned.​

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Four Russian vessels will make a port call to Havana between 12 and 17 June before stopping off in Venezuela later in the month, according to Cuban and US officials.​

​

The Admiral Gorshkov frigate, the Kazan nuclear-powered cruise missile submarine, the Academic Pashin replenishment oiler, and the Nikolai Chiker rescue tug will all be part of the visit, the US-based think tank Institute for the Study of War.​

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The Admiral Gorshkov is capable of carrying Zircon hypersonic missiles, which the Kremlin has touted as being able to carry a nuclear warhead. There is no suggestion the ship will be equipped with nuclear weapons during the visit.​

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In 1962, former Russian premier Nikita Khrushchev moved nuclear missiles to Havana which led to an intense stand off between Moscow and Washington.​

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Meanwhile, Putin has threatened to retaliate against Western countries that are allowing Ukraine to hit Russia with their long-range missiles.​

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