The Righteousness of Job

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The Book of Job tells us repeatedly that Job is a righteous man. The first verse says that Job is “blameless and upright” and God repeats this in Job 1:8. So what was the righteousness of Job?

The word “sabbath” does not appear in Job, so there is no sign that he observed a sabbath.

Job does offer sacrifices but there is no mention of the Tabernacle, or the Temple. There is no mention of a priesthood. Job offered his sacrifices at home, just as Abraham did.

Job is true to his wife, he practices sexual morality. (Job 31:9-11)
Job provides bread to orphans and looks after widows. (Job 31:17-18)
He is hospitable to travelers and strangers, putting them up for the night. (Job 31: 32)
He provides clothing to those who are in need. (Job 31: 19-20)
He is just in dealing with tenants. (Job 31: 38-39)
 

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The Book of Job tells us repeatedly that Job is a righteous man. The first verse says that Job is “blameless and upright” and God repeats this in Job 1:8. So what was the righteousness of Job?

The word “sabbath” does not appear in Job, so there is no sign that he observed a sabbath.

Job does offer sacrifices but there is no mention of the Tabernacle, or the Temple. There is no mention of a priesthood. Job offered his sacrifices at home, just as Abraham did.

Job is true to his wife, he practices sexual morality. (Job 31:9-11)
Job provides bread to orphans and looks after widows. (Job 31:17-18)
He is hospitable to travelers and strangers, putting them up for the night. (Job 31: 32)
He provides clothing to those who are in need. (Job 31: 19-20)
He is just in dealing with tenants. (Job 31: 38-39)
What you point out about Job's righteous acts are there for us to read and provide an example for us to imitate.
Surely though when we speak of Job's "righteousness", we speak of Job's true faith in God's promise to provide a savior. God credits us with righteousness through our faith in Jesus while
OT believers put their faith in God's Promised Messiah.
 
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The Book of Job tells us repeatedly that Job is a righteous man. The first verse says that Job is “blameless and upright” and God repeats this in Job 1:8. So what was the righteousness of Job?

The word “sabbath” does not appear in Job, so there is no sign that he observed a sabbath.

Job does offer sacrifices but there is no mention of the Tabernacle, or the Temple. There is no mention of a priesthood. Job offered his sacrifices at home, just as Abraham did.

Job is true to his wife, he practices sexual morality. (Job 31:9-11)
Job provides bread to orphans and looks after widows. (Job 31:17-18)
He is hospitable to travelers and strangers, putting them up for the night. (Job 31: 32)
He provides clothing to those who are in need. (Job 31: 19-20)
He is just in dealing with tenants. (Job 31: 38-39)
Job might have lived before the flood and been the earliest recorded book.
Job was not perfect like Christ is perfect and yet did everything "right" up until the time of the story, but Job lacked what?
 
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Job might have lived before the flood and been the earliest recorded book.
Job was not perfect like Christ is perfect and yet did everything "right" up until the time of the story, but Job lacked what?
Well, Job's faith had not been tested before the calamities came upon him.. It is during this time of suffering and self-searching that Job declares, "I know that my Redeemer lives"... God granted him insight and increased his faith.
 
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The Book of Job tells us repeatedly that Job is a righteous man. The first verse says that Job is “blameless and upright” and God repeats this in Job 1:8. So what was the righteousness of Job?

The word “sabbath” does not appear in Job, so there is no sign that he observed a sabbath.

Job does offer sacrifices but there is no mention of the Tabernacle, or the Temple. There is no mention of a priesthood. Job offered his sacrifices at home, just as Abraham did.

Job is true to his wife, he practices sexual morality. (Job 31:9-11)
Job provides bread to orphans and looks after widows. (Job 31:17-18)
He is hospitable to travelers and strangers, putting them up for the night. (Job 31: 32)
He provides clothing to those who are in need. (Job 31: 19-20)
He is just in dealing with tenants. (Job 31: 38-39)
I'm Job. Job is the story of bearing our cross. In my personal understanding.
 
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Job might have lived before the flood and been the earliest recorded book.
Job was not perfect like Christ is perfect and yet did everything "right" up until the time of the story, but Job lacked what?

Bling: “Job might have lived before the flood and been the earliest recorded book.”


Job lived in “the land of Uz” according to Job 1:1.

Uz is an area known to exist in historic times, on the border of Israel. This indicates that Job did live in recorded history.
 
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Job might have lived before the flood and been the earliest recorded book.
Job was not perfect like Christ is perfect and yet did everything "right" up until the time of the story, but Job lacked what?
True faith.
 
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Well, Job's faith had not been tested before the calamities came upon him.. It is during this time of suffering and self-searching that Job declares, "I know that my Redeemer lives"... God granted him insight and increased his faith.
The Story of Job seems to make God out to be unconcerned with human’s fate, playing games with humans, easily manipulated, harsh, cruel and satan is on an equal plan with God.



Here are some questions to get you thinking:



1. Was Job spiritually more mature at the end of Job’s story than at the beginning?

2. What problem did Job finally show that he needed correction?

3. Would Job have easily acknowledged this problem prior to the disaster, because he would have realized he had this problem?

4. Would God have known of Job’s problem prior to satan’s visit?

5. Did satan manipulate God to get at Job or did God manipulate satan to get satan to do stuff God could not do (hurt innocent people) and bring Job to the point of accepting God’s understanding of his problem?

6. Does this give us an example of the degree to which God will go in order to help us to grow spiritually?

7. Is this an example of the role satan plays indirectly helping good people become even better?

8. It is “unfortunate” that some of Jobs children went to be with God in heaven and leave Job and his wife, but how big of a price will God pay to help us (send his only son)?

9. We always need to remember “death” is not bad in and of itself (atheist consider a harsh death to be the worst thing possible) it is the way good people get to be with God and the way bad people quit doing bad stuff.



Look at this at least:



Job, “He was the greatest man among all the people of the East.” (But that does not mean Job would not have wanted to be better and was not asking God for His help.



  1. This is the oldest story thought to be recorded, it could be before the time of the flood.
  2. First!! Remember our objective: All humans are to develop and grow in Godly type love (agape) of God and other humans. This needs lots of understanding.
  3. God’s objective is the most selfless, in that He has and will do everything to help human individually develop and grow Godly type love (help us fulfill our objective).
  4. In the story of Job, we can see God is in charge, satan can only do what God allows Satan to do.
  5. God has power over Satan and could destroy Satan at any time, so Satan has a purpose that forces God to allow Satan to stick around.
  6. From the story we see Satan doing the bad stuff to good people and God allowing Satan to do this bad stuff.
  7. Bad stuff is never bad for the individual that loves God: Rm8: 28And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him. What good can Job get out of this discipline, trial, learning experience?
  8. Job would have been praying for himself like he prayed for his kids: Early in the morning he would sacrifice a burnt offering for each of them, thinking, "Perhaps my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts." This was Job's regular custom. Job’s pray would easily been to ask to love more and grow spiritually.
  9. We can not stop, we have to be growing or we will start withering spiritually. Where Job is in his spiritual growth at the beginning seem to be far down the path of growth, so further growing could be a challenge and require a new level.
  10. Job is fantastic at the beginning of the story, but he is not perfect, he can still do a lot of growing.
  11. I think we can agree that Job is personally a better person (spiritually stronger) at the end of the story then at the beginning, so what was Job’s weakness in the beginning that God would know and realize? If we could figure this out, we could figure what was needed to help Job. Would a burning bush experience help Job?
  12. This is another situation in which God works with an individual personally. God is working with each of us very similarly.
  13. We do not know how God worked individually with each of Job’s kids, but He was and they joined God in heaven and would be there when Job got there.
  14. It has been my experience people (including myself) really hate to humble ourselves. It is like being baptized, people use every excuse for not being baptized that comes down to being a sign of humility, they will not do.




At the end we see a changed Job:



1 Then Job replied to the LORD:

2 "I know that you can do all things;
no plan of yours can be thwarted.

3 You asked, 'Who is this that obscures my counsel without knowledge?'
Surely I spoke of things I did not understand,
things too wonderful for me to know.

4 "You said, 'Listen now, and I will speak;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.'

5 My ears had heard of you
but now my eyes have seen you.

6 Therefore I despise myself
and repent in dust and ashes."

The fact Job talks of “repenting”, means he realized he sinned, so what was Job’s sin?

Here seems to be the problem: Job said: Job 31: 35 (“Oh, that I had someone to hear me! I sign now my defense—let the Almighty answer me; let my accuser put his indictment in writing. 36 Surely I would wear it on my shoulder, I would put it on like a crown. 37 I would give him an account of my every step; I would present it to him as to a ruler.)—

From this and previous verses Job has lower God to his level like he could argue his case before God and win. Job would not have admitted that deep in his heart early on he saw God as being like some superior human being and not above making any mistakes, so it would take a huge upheaval in Job’s life to get him to realize this weakness in himself.



Job was humbled in the end, but why go through all this, would there not be an easier way? If God had spoken directly to Job prior to all this, would Job not have listened? I would say, “NO”. Job would have said, “I know the Lord” (when he really didn’t) Job would not have said what he did say in the end and that is what he needed to say. How do you get Job to say what he did without going through what he experienced? If you had asked Job in the beginning, “do you know the Lord”, he would have said, “yes” for he knew the Lord better then anyone else at the time. God does not want you to just be the best, but the best you can be and that is what Job wanted.

Just some thoughts, I really love Job and thank God for this story.
 
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Bling: “Job might have lived before the flood and been the earliest recorded book.”


Job lived in “the land of Uz” according to Job 1:1.

Uz is an area known to exist in historic times, on the border of Israel. This indicates that Job did live in recorded history.
Look at my post 10. It really does not matter when Job lived.
 
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Look above at my post 10.
I've experienced something similar to what Job went through. It is necessary for those called into faith to be shown just how little faith we have so that God can build us up in his image.

Job outwardly appeared to be righteous in his actions but when God allowed Satan to attack Job's health and physical appearance Job began to question God. God then revealed the truth, this humbled Job and he has finally in a place of faith.

I lost also lost all that was important to me because I failed to understand faith. I told people that God had to tear me down in order to build me back up in his image. A few years later God told me that he didn't have to tear me down, he had to reveal the truth.

That truth broke me but God embraced me and revealed the wonders of his love. He told me that I had been called into faith. I need a faith given by the Holy Spirit. I must rely on God for everything.

I don't know why I was called but I must have faith so when that time comes, I can lay all on that Spirit and not mine.
 
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No. Job questioned his maker in his suffering. His faith wasn't fake though.
Job didn't have the faith it took to go through Satan's attacks on him and Job challenged God. It broke Job but God humbled him and revealed the truth. Job finally had a righteousness from God instead of his own works.
 
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Job didn't have the faith it took to go through Satan's attacks on him and Job challenged God. It broke Job but God humbled him and revealed the truth. Job finally had a righteousness from God instead of his own works.
Jobs friends accused him of sin but God rebuked them.
 
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I've experienced something similar to what Job went through. It is necessary for those called into faith to be shown just how little faith we have so that God can build us up in his image.

Job outwardly appeared to be righteous in his actions but when God allowed Satan to attack Job's health and physical appearance Job began to question God. God then revealed the truth, this humbled Job and he has finally in a place of faith.

I lost also lost all that was important to me because I failed to understand faith. I told people that God had to tear me down in order to build me back up in his image. A few years later God told me that he didn't have to tear me down, he had to reveal the truth.

That truth broke me but God embraced me and revealed the wonders of his love. He told me that I had been called into faith. I need a faith given by the Holy Spirit. I must rely on God for everything.

I don't know why I was called but I must have faith so when that time comes, I can lay all on that Spirit and not mine.
The apostles carried death in their bodies to teach them to trust God. It's probably the same with job in my opinion. I'm not sure that job or the apostles were self righteous. Fearful is more like it. Paul said that the apostles knew the fear of God.
 
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The apostles carried death in their bodies to teach them to trust God. It's probably the same with job in my opinion. I'm not sure that job or the apostles were self righteous. Fearful is more like it. Paul said that the apostles knew the fear of God.
Job had a self righteous at the beginning but as the Apostles, God revealed his glory to him and he submitted to God's Spirit.
 
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