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Recent content by PloverWing

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    Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

    I do not accept that statement, and I agree that we have a wide enough disagreement that there is probably no reason to continue. If you observe the Sabbath, I hope it is a holy day of rest for you. If you do not observe the Sabbath, then I hope you find other devotional practices that bring...
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    Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

    Agreed, most of the people in the mob were Jews. Most of the followers of Jesus were Jews. Most of the indifferent bystanders were Jews. Most of the people in all the gospel stories were Jews (with the notable exception of the Romans, who did the actual crucifying). My only objection here is...
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    Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

    A mob gathered and was yelling "crucify him", but that's not the same as having the residents of Palestine vote in a referendum.
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    The Mandami effect

    Ah, you beat me to it! :)
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    The Mandami effect

    Here you go, everyone: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/16/us/defund-police-minneapolis.html?unlocked_article_code=1.zU8.Wgv3.JqOjcemgW7k9&smid=url-share The article talks about how violence from police officers is a problem, but also you need police because there are genuine criminals, and...
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    Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

    Judaism is a religion whose adherents follow the laws listed in the Pentateuch (Genesis through Deuteronomy) as an expression of their covenant with God. Christianity grew out of Judaism, but the two religions diverged in the first couple of centuries AD. Jesus and most of his first disciples...
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    What would have happened to Adam and Eve and Cain after death?

    Just for clarity, because I'm not sure how all the negatives in this phrase cancel out: Are you saying that most Christians think Adam was saved, or most Christians think Adam was not saved?
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    the "blue wave" last night and the government shutdown

    If it matters, our newly-elected governor Mikie Sherrill is a moderate Democrat. It's too early for her to be the face of the party, because she needs to be busy being governor for the next 4-8 years, but I assume she's the kind of person you have in mind. I think that the newly-elected...
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    What is your Motivation to Discuss/Debate Things Online?

    Have you ever changed your mind about something as a result of an online discussion? Or, has an online discussion ever taught you something you didn't know before, or made you look at a question in a new way?
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    Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

    I had in mind Acts 15:1-35. As @BobRyan has noted, Romans 14 also applies to this question.
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    Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

    The Jerusalem Council (Acts 15) ruled that Gentiles do not have to convert to Judaism to become Christians, and Paul's letters are consistent with this ruling.
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    University of California campuses mandate gender ideology training to register for classes

    I'll agree that teachers have a challenging job talking about this topic. One reason that morality has to come into education, at least a little, is that you have a bunch of students in the same classroom, and they need to be able to function together without hurting each other too badly. The...
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    University of California campuses mandate gender ideology training to register for classes

    Seems okay. A family can believe that it's morally wrong to be gay or trans, but still allow their children to know that LGBTQ people exist, that sometimes LGBTQ people have been mistreated in the past, and that it's good to be kind to LGBTQ people, just as one should be kind to people in...
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    University of California campuses mandate gender ideology training to register for classes

    It looks like California bill AB-957 failed, having been vetoed by the governor: Bill Status - AB-957 Family law: gender identity. . Is there a different version of the bill that passed?
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    University of California campuses mandate gender ideology training to register for classes

    Following a couple of links takes me to the University of California's policy on Sexual Violence and Sexual Harassment (https://policy.ucop.edu/doc/4000385/SVSH). Section II.B.2, "Sexual Harassment", is consistent with the screenshot from the training video. I'd say that it's useful for a...