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    What happens if someone dies before they became a believer, is it their fault?

    Names get removed from the book of life at the judgment. Jesus promises the saints "I will not remove your name from the book of life" Rev 3:5
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    What happens if someone dies before they became a believer, is it their fault?

    nope nope I am saying that having a sinful nature (which the baby has) is having a nature that has a bent toward rebellion, evil. Even if we die too early to have ever sinned, we need that sinful nature removed.
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    Can not being in the correct denomination cause someone to not be saved?

    saved by "Denomination" affiliation could simply mean saved by fidelity to some group of believers. But more often (as in the case of this thread I suspect) it means , "right doctrine" since each denomination has a set of doctrines it holds to be true and according to the Bible. The fact that...
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    Did the beginning of the IDL change the beginning of the Jewish Sabbath?

    God said in Exodus 16:23 "tomorrow is the Sabbath". The one who trusts that God was so confused in Ex 16 so as not to know which day was the actual Sabbath in Gen 2:2-3 is trusting a straw theology of God. For forty years in the wilderness the manna did not fall on "The Sabbath", the one who...
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    Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

    Not according to Christ. Mark 2:27 "The Sabbath was MADE For MANKIND not mankind MADE for the Sabbath" . Jesus speaks to the making of BOTH at Creation week. And the Sabbath commandment of Ex 20:8-11 points explicitly back to Gen 2:2-3 when the weekly Sabbath was made holy during that same 7...
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    What happens if someone dies before they became a believer, is it their fault?

    All humans are born with sinful natures. All need salvation. But babies don't need to "make a decision first" to be covered by the mercy and grace of Christ. 1 John 2:2 He has their back. He has them covered..
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    What happens if someone dies before they became a believer, is it their fault?

    babies have a sinful nature that they need to be delivered from , so then they need a Savior. And as we see in 1 John 2:2 they have a Savior. He has them covered, thank God, and they have no need to "make a decision" to be covered by Christ. Babies do not make decisions
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    Can not being in the correct denomination cause someone to not be saved?

    Denominations don't save, Christ does. John 16:13 Jesus said the Holy Spirit will guide you into all Truth. And Jesus said "The truth will set you free" But just as the disciples of Jesus had been given some bad ideas in the context of their Jewish church, so today tradition is everywhere...
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    What happens if someone dies before they became a believer, is it their fault?

    We are certain that unborn babies and newborn babies and 1 year old babies and ... do not have a clue about sin or rebellion. nada... nothing. even though they have a sinful nature they do not have the ability to "know to do right" vs wrong. "To him that knows to do right and does it not , to...
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    Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

    Jesus said that was true before the cross, in John 16. IT is not something that became true at some later time. In John 14 Jesus said the Holy Spirit already dwelt with His followers... before the cross
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    Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

    "The seventh day IS THE SABBATH of the Lord" Ex 20:10 That is pretty clear. It is THE seventh day, devoted to God by God. IT is THE seventh day , made holy and sanctified by God It is THE Seventh day "made for mankind" Mark 2:27 Nothing else was made on the 7th day of creation week other than...
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    The Significance of the Temple Curtain Being Torn in Two

    Rom 11: 17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the...
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    Do you keep the Sabbath? (poll)

    That is the very special case of a tiny group of gentiles wishing to participate in the Passover, and yes for them circumcision would be necessary. That is a far cry from "all mankind" or "all gentiles in the OT" again, that is a tiny group . It is the group of gentiles that wanted to enter...
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    Will the world end one day?

    It will end 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. 3 Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with...
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    Fundamentalist or Evangelical?

    1. Type this in your browser address/search box "compare fundamentalist to evangelicalcompare fundamentalist to evangelical 2. As they note, fundamentalist is a subset of evangelical My denomination is strongly aligned with both. But we do not tell people not to read J.B. Philips...