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2020 was not normal by any analysis. What was different aside from the very suspicious Democrat vote total ? The answer is obvious to reasonable objective observers. Covid which spawned massive mail in ballots is the simple answer. All of the cries of a perfect free and fair election in 2020 is nonsense and ignores basic facts. There have been many claims in the past of stolen presidential elections.
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If Kamala had the mail in ballot dump Joe had she could have won (stole) this election as well. Will some liberal just tell us where all of those never before seen votes in 2020 came from and where they disappeared to in 2024?
Well, you asked for "some liberal", and I'm not a liberal but rather a conservative-leaving centrist, but here we go anyway.
You claim that "If Kamala had the mail in ballot dump Joe had she could have won (stole) this election as well." Except she
did have the mail in ballot dump he did--in fact,
more people voted absentee or mail-in in 2024 than they did in 2020! In 2020,
46% voted absentee/mail-in ballot. In 2024,
48% of voted that way. So clearly the problem cannot be "massive mail in ballots" as not only was there "massive mail in ballots" in both cases, there was
more of it in 2024!
As for your declaration of "where all of those never before seen votes in 2020 came from and where they disappeared to in 2024" question, you aren't specific with that, but I would assume you are referring to the increase in 2020 and decrease in 2024 of votes. The problem is, this still doesn't support your point. Here are the numbers.
2016: 136,669,276 (63M Republican, 67M Democrat)
2020: 158,429,631 (74M Republican, 81M Democrat)
2024: 155,238,302 (77M Republican, 75M Democrat)
So, yes, the Democrats did get a whole lot more votes in 2020 compared to 2016. But the Republicans
also got a whole lot more votes in 2020 compared to 2016. If we have to suppose there was conspiracy going on here for the Democrats with such an increase, then it seems logical to suppose that the Republicans were doing this also. So the conclusion would not be that the Democrats cheated and so they won, but that both Republicans and Democrats were cheating, but the Democrats were better at it, so they won.
But there is no need to engage in conspiracy theories for either party. The more plausible explanation is simply that relative to the 2016 election where there was a lot of apathy about it, the 2020 election was repeatedly portrayed as being, and believed by voters to be, The Most Important Election Of Our Lives™ and voters came out in massive numbers as a result. Then Biden won because while he wasn't exactly someone to get enthusiastic about, he managed to successfully portray himself as more of a return to normalcy and a better alternative to Trump, who wasn't very popular.
Now, 2024 had a reduction compared to 2024, which is presumably where your question as to where they "disappeared" to in 2024. First, 2024 was still a whole lot higher than 2016, so clearly all those additional votes didn't "disappear". Indeed, as noted, if we allege cheating in 2020 of the Democrats, we have to logically allege it towards the Republicans also, so under this paradigm the answer would be that, relative to 2020, the Republicans were better at cheating and/or the Democrats were worse at cheating, and thus the Republicans won this time.
But once again, there is little need to posit conspiracy. In 2020, Biden won by presenting himself as the favorable alternative to Trump. By 2024, Biden was a lot less popular (even he swap out to Harris didn't help much given how linked she was to him) while memories of Trump's term had faded a little. This resulted in a good number of people who voted for Biden either not voting at all or moving over to Trump, giving Trump the win. As I recall seeing someone mention (paraphrasing, don't have the exact words) "In 2020 I voted for Biden because I hated Trump and was apathetic about Biden. But now I hate both of them so I'm not sure what to do." I expect a lot of people had similar sentiments, leading to a number of Biden voters opting to not vote for anyone (bringing the total down) or defecting to Trump (bringing his vote up).
The numbers just don't support the mail-in conspiracy you describe. Again, the claim "If Kamala had the mail in ballot dump Joe had she could have won (stole) this election as well" is clearly shown to be false because there were such ballots in 2024 compared to 2020.
