Gregg Abbott Says "Antisemitism Will Not Be Tolerated in Texas"

[th1bill]

So, if Hamas doesn't care about Palestinian civilians and Israel doesn't care about Palestinian civilians, we are not supposed to care about them either?

Calling out atrocities of war is not antisemitism.

There is no nation of Palestine.

 

[th1bill]

Considering that there are 30,000 Hamas, and that more than that are verified dead, over 2 million starving, and almost 3 million homeless, the idea that they are "shields" is murderously evil.

No, no, no! The idea that they were used by Hamas is evil.

 

[BPPLEE]

I don't like Illinois Nazis, but they have the right to march in Skokie or Texas.

And Charlottesville?

 

[Vambram]

Considering that there are 30,000 Hamas, and that more than that are verified dead, over 2 million starving, and almost 3 million homeless, the idea that they are "shields" is murderously evil.

smh

 

[Arcangl86]

Because Hamas was hiding there attempting to use civilians as human shields. The Hamas barbarian savages represents pure evil.

Let's say that you are right and Hamas was trying to use civilians as a human shield. How is just blowing everybody up any better?

 

[essentialsaltes]

And Charlottesville?

What, I pointed and let them show themselves for who they are. I never suggested they shouldn't be able to be jerks in public. Quite the opposite. (One murderous jerk aside.)

 

[Fantine]

No, no, no! The idea that they were used by Hamas is evil.

So you are saying the possibility of their being used as shields makes 3.2 million starving, homeless, wounded people "fair game?"

 

[Fantine]

Then you believe the rape, murder, capture of the Jewish, God's Chosen People, that took place on 10/7 should not be contested?

Have you read the psalms? God loves and cherishes all people. Yes, Jesus was from the line of David, but Jesus, seeing Netanyahu's action today, would probably join the peaceful protesters.

 

[Pommer]

Would you agree the antisemitism is also bigotry?

Oh yes, of course.

 

[Pommer]

There is no nation of Palestine.

There is a people who identify as “Palestinians” though.
In 1947, there was no “Israel”.

 

[BPPLEE]

Legal protests have their place, but so too do “illegal protests”.
It’s like this:
“If people are so upset over [ISSUE GOETH HERE] that they become willing to break the law (a little bit) by ‘protesting illegally’, then maybe we, as a society, should taek a look at this [ISSUE] again/more closely? Should those who ‘protest illegally’ be charged with crimes for those protests?”

Having free speech often looks like it’s a bad idea, but any alternative requires some “authority” to police-speech. Far right and Far left would agree that nobody wants to stifle speech by using Law to silence the People.

Free speech is necessary and all speech should be allowed but not death threats.

 

[Arcangl86]

There is no nation of Palestine.

The nation of Palestine is recognized by the UN as a nation and most of the world outside of North America and Europe also recognizes them. However, if we go with your premise that there is no nation of Palestine, that means that the IDF is being used on Israeli nationals, including large numbers of civilians. Makes it even worse than the actual situation.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Then you believe the rape, murder, capture of the Jewish, God's Chosen People, that took place on 10/7 should not be contested?

Rape, murder, and kidnapping of anyone is wrong. It doesn't become wrong because it's against a certain type of human being.

All human beings have innate value and worth as human beings. I don't make a distinction between Jews and non-Jews, or between whites and non-whites, or Muslims and non-Muslims, or Christians and non-Christians. A person is a person is a person.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Hazelelponi]

I think it is a mistake to confuse protesting actions of the nation of Israel with "hatred for Yahova's Chosen People." No nation has unique status to be above criticism. Some of us think killing, raping, plundering, starving, bombing, and destroying the livelihood of other human beings is wrong no matter who is doing it. I think we should be careful about throwing around pejoratives.

Loving your neighbor is a Christian value.

I understand this, but we have to look at this objectively.

The students are camping out at these colleges, against college campus rules, in order to make demands of these colleges, refusing to allow normal campus life until their demands are met. This is what terrorists do... They make life for normal people hell until their demands are met.

These protestors demand divestment because they claim Gazan citizens are under Israeli control, which they aren't.

They are under Hamas control, which the Gazan people voted for, well over a decade after Hamas became internationally recognized as a terrorist organization.

Israel has nothing to do with their day to day lives and hasn't in a very very long time. What Palestinians have is their own area to live in and rule.

If Palestinians need to go to a better hospital than theirs, or go to work somewhere other than where they live,
they don't have to go to Israel, they can go to the Arab nations they border - Egypt and Jordan..

Hamas also didn't have to shoot at the UN and Israeli delegation who were seeking to inspect the location for the pier being built for humanitarian aid, (not Israeli military forces) and have promised to attack any US service personnel if they try building the pier or try bringing aid.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/04/25/gaza-floating-pier/

"A Hamas official told The Associated Press on Wednesday that the militant group will resist any foreign military presence involved with the port project"

They specifically pointed to the US (also known as the great Satan because of our decadence and homosexuality) so the BBC are telling the British they will probably get handed the port headache.

And certainly Hamas didn't have to kill most of the hostages. Apparently Hamas themselves believe only about 40 hostages can still be found alive, out of the 132 they have or had hostage after the prisoner swap (hostages for convicted criminals).

(Because of the way Hamas holds hostages they currently are not sure how many may eventually be found... But they think there's a possibility most have now been murdered by Hamas counterparts)

So... We have a terrorist organization that fights out of Palestinian schools

UN admits Palestinians fired rockets from UNRWA schools - UN Watch

The UN finally investigated the Palestinian storing of rockets in UNRWA schools and their use of the schools to launch rockets against Israel, all of which constitute grave violations of the Geneva Conventions and international humanitarian law. Key findings gleaned from the UN report: Hamas...

unwatch.org

Using people, women and children because they have the most traumatic effect for the camera and make excellent propaganda pawns, as human shields.

Hamas has declared publicly that they will never stop fighting until every Jew is dead and Israel the nation completely dissolved.

That's the goal, stated multiple multiple times since Oct. 7, not that anyone cares to listen to the very group they are supporting.

So basically what these kids are doing is attempting to provide material support for a terrorist organization, an organization that does more harm to the Palestinians than Israel ever even thought about.

As much as you might find it distasteful, when people declare war on you - which Hamas did on Oct.7 against Israel - you fight them until they are not able to fight you anymore.

And civilians die in these scenarios. There's been what, 700,000 dead in Ukraine....

Yet no one is holding universities hostage over that...

As the Bible says, there a time for everything, which sadly includes war because people sin against other people.

 

[seeking.IAM]

The students are camping out at these colleges, against college campus rules, in order to make demands of these colleges, refusing to allow normal campus life until their demands are met. This is what terrorists do...

It is also what we did in the '70's for a different cause...Viet Nam. No one called us terrorists then, although the National Guard did shoot a few of us for it. Terrorists kill, bomb, and destroy; they don't stage protests on college campuses. Being an annoying protester does not make you a terrorist any more than opposing actions of Israel makes you antisemitic.

 

[Hazelelponi]

It is also what we did in the '70's for a different cause...Viet Nam. No one called us terrorists then, although the National Guard did shoot a few of us for it. Terrorists kill, bomb, and destroy; they don't stage protests on college campuses. Being an annoying protester does not make you a terrorist any more than opposing actions of Israel makes you antisemitic.

Because you were advocating for peace in the 70's, whereas now you're advocating for genocide and the defeat of a democracy at the hands of terrorists who have genocide as their main goal....

And even in the 70's you weren't allowed to break the law and hold colleges hostage without arrest...

But no one was seeking to eliminate people because of their race, an idea upheld by the religion they followed.

And if they had been I would have hoped the protesting would have stopped very organically because it's a bad thing.

 

[BPPLEE]

Rape, murder, and kidnapping of anyone is wrong. It doesn't become wrong because it's against a certain type of human being.

All human beings have innate value and worth as human beings. I don't make a distinction between Jews and non-Jews, or between whites and non-whites, or Muslims and non-Muslims, or Christians and non-Christians. A person is a person is a person.

-CryptoLutheran

You have your preferences

 

[essentialsaltes]

Because you were advocating for peace in the 70's, whereas now you're advocating for genocide

Ludicrous. Also this will look funny if the ICJ determines that Israel has violated the 1948 Genocide Convention.

And even in the 70's you weren't allowed to break the law and hold colleges hostage without arrest...

Correct, that's part of civil disobedience.

These people are being arrested for trespassing, not terrorism.

 

[seeking.IAM]

Because you were advocating for peace in the 70's, whereas now you're advocating for genocide and the defeat of a democracy at the hands of terrorists who have genocide as their main goal....

You are quite mistaken. I'm still advocating for peace. This time in the Middle East, not Southeast Asia.

 

[iluvatar5150]

There's so much misinformation, and misinterpretation in that post. I will need a lot of time to post rebuttals for all that stuff.

I look forward to it.